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Old 2nd Oct 2016, 08:44   #101
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It does sum up politicians and its unfortunate people are taken in by it.

People seem more uninformed because freely available information allows them to more easily transmit their opinion. Just like we are doing now.
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Old 2nd Oct 2016, 10:58   #102
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So you're saying they've, we've always been ill-informed it's just that ill-informedness is now more visible, if so that makes sense, however that still leaves me wondering why the flow of information mostly seems to be going in one direction.
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Doesn't that sum up politicians though?

What amazes me is with the plethora of information available in this modern era that people seem more ill-informed than ever before.
That's because people don't actually read the source-material, but only repeat what the media-outlets have told them.
The scientific method or critical thinking is something people have to learn in their childhood and adolesence and this is something that's missing more and more. Most parents these days aren't willing to deal with the critical questions of their children and the schools don't teach the scientific method enough. We literally raise people to be ill-informed this way.

When I read an article about something I usually look for the cited sources and try to find additional sources to form an oppinion myself. Unfortunately I know allmost nobody else who does this and it's getting very tedious to discuss with people, who can only repeat what they've been spoonfed by the media.

In the current election it doesn't help to only watch CNN or on the opposite to only watch Fox. To make semi-informed decision you atleast need to watch and listen to both sides. And to make an actual informed decision in the election you need to dig deeper.
The problem with the scientific method and forming an informed oppinion is, it requires time. Nobody wants to take or has the time to do so however.
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So you're saying they've, we've always been ill-informed it's just that ill-informedness is now more visible, if so that makes sense, however that still leaves me wondering why the flow of information mostly seems to be going in one direction.
Because people don't change.
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That's because people don't actually read the source-material, but only repeat what the media-outlets have told them.
The scientific method or critical thinking is something people have to learn in their childhood and adolesence and this is something that's missing more and more. Most parents these days aren't willing to deal with the critical questions of their children and the schools don't teach the scientific method enough. We literally raise people to be ill-informed this way.
I guess that explains why i always got in trouble as a kid for questioning authority, teachers, adults and nearly everything i was told.

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Because people don't change.
The do just really, really slowly, generational slow.
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I guess that explains why i always got in trouble as a kid for questioning authority, teachers, adults and nearly everything i was told.
Don't question authority...

...they don't know the answer either...
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That's how Bush won in 2000. Go figure.
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It's a bit like how our system works, it's why the electoral commission is redrawing the boundaries, much to the dislike of Labour who come across as self serving A holes for wanting to retain a system where one persons vote counts more than another (IMO).
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Trump's lambasting of others over their tax contributions seems incredible following his own recent tax revelations.





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It's a bit like how our system works, it's why the electoral commission is redrawing the boundaries, much to the dislike of Labour who come across as self serving A holes for wanting to retain a system where one persons vote counts more than another (IMO).
People only whine the system is biased or rigged when it gives a result they don't like...

Drumpf was bitching that the nominations were rigged, until he won, then he didn't care...

He's only bitching the election is rigged because it looks like he might lose, if he wins, he won't care...
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People only whine the system is biased or rigged when it gives a result they don't like...
Perhaps they do however with the introduction of electronic voting machines it left the door open for vote fraud, so these concerns are not completely unfounded.
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