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Old 18th Feb 2017, 23:51   #5981
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Yeah I thought that too... wondered how many people slagging it/him off would be shouting 'this, all of this!' from the rooftops had it been literally anyone other than him saying it.
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 23:58   #5982
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Well, he is for a large part responsible for the utter mess in the Middle East which has allowed ISIS to proliferate and has contributes to the fear of Muslim immigrants overrunning the West, which in turn was grist on the mill of the Vote Leave campaign and also contributed to Trump getting voted into office.

So yeah, that may be detracting slightly from the impact of his speech.

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Old 18th Feb 2017, 23:59   #5983
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Well, he is for a large part responsible for the utter mess in the Middle East which has allowed ISIS to proliferate and has contributes to the fear of Muslim immigrants overrunning the West, which in turn was grist on the mill of the Vote Leave campaign and also contributed to Trump getting voted into office.

So yeah, some blame can be laid at his feet.
but only 45 minutes worth.....
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Old 19th Feb 2017, 00:11   #5984
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Old 20th Feb 2017, 23:50   #5986
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Pro-Brexit The Telegraph: "Yeah... Uh... Totally worth it... Maybe..."
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Old 21st Feb 2017, 20:02   #5987
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Anyone fancy a new job? Head of Strategy and Brexit.
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The job entails supporting the Deputy Director for Strategy, Brexit and Ministerial Support in leading the following functions:
  • Developing the departmentís strategic priorities to support their delivery, including preparation for fiscal events and other major milestones.
  • Developing the departmentís Single Departmental Plan, working closely with the Departmentís Implementation Unit.
  • Leading the departmentís business planning cycles to ensure pay resources are allocated to reflect strategic delivery priorities and capacity needs and alignment with the departmentís Single Departmental Plan.
  • Leading the departmentís preparations for exiting the EU, including close work with policy, analytical and legal colleagues across DCLG and managing the relationship with DExEU.
  • Supporting overall leadership of the division as a the Management Team.
Does that mean they can't find anyone suitable for the role from within the exist 400k+ unelected bureaucrats?
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I think I'd want a lot more than 70k to be head of strategy and brexit. Its akin to working for a top private company so I'd be wanting at the very least a mil, plus a massive bonus if its a "success".
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Old 21st Feb 2017, 21:54   #5989
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Anyone fancy a new job? Head of Strategy and Brexit.

Does that mean they can't find anyone suitable for the role from within the exist 400k+ unelected bureaucrats?
Or nobody willing. Poison chalice.

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I think I'd want a lot more than 70k to be head of strategy and brexit. Its akin to working for a top private company so I'd be wanting at the very least a mil, plus a massive bonus if its a "success".
The pay is remarkably ****.
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Or nobody willing. Poison chalice.
I would have thought for a vehement supporter of leaving it would have been the holy grail.

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Possibly not many of those amongst the civil servants.
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Probably why they're having to advertise externally. Although haven't we been told it's all about PMA (positive mental attitude) so maybe those unelected bureaucrats need someone who believes leaving is going to be a good thing, i get the feeling though that any leave supporting applicant would soon come to realise working at the coal face paints a very different picture.
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Well, so far whenever Brexiteers are asked what the UK is going to do about all those tricky details like participation in the Erasmus programme, scientific cooperation, Interpol, security and defense, E numbers and other food regulations, the European Medicines Agency etc. they say: "Oh, we will probably keep those, but now it will be on a voluntary basis". Like EU membership wasn't voluntary?

Turns out that Brexit means not much will change --except losing all the perks of EU membership and gaining a lot of pointless hassle for maintenance of essentially the status quo.
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What's that? We're going to have to keep trucking in people from the EU post-Brexit 'cos they're doing jobs that natives think are beneath them? Well, colour me shocked.

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"You can serve in Pret if you are a 55-year old"
Yeah, but let's see if that 55-year old is prepared to work for the same wage.

Me, I want to see the Job Centre try to direct all those British unemployed to the farmers' fields.



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Meanwhile, Ivan Rogers' evidence to the Common Brexit Committee has just finished. Rogers laid down what the difference is between being in the Single Market and having an FTA, and what it would mean to trade under WTO rules, and what the EU's stance is to the whole negotiation. The last exchange went like this:

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Dominic Raab: "I missed the sunshine."
Yeah, Brexit is a Bitch.
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I'm liking how cheap it sounds to settle ties.

I mean, if it's only ~60bn Euro's why didn't we do this decades ago? What a deal to have no say in **** and a ****ed economy. Awesome like a foursome.
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