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Overclocking i7 920 Asus P6t Deluxe V2

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Mandragorin, 3 Mar 2012.

  1. Mandragorin

    Mandragorin What's a Dremel?

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    I upgraded my ram from the Corsair Dominator 6GB CM3X2G1600C8D to Corsair Dominator GT 24GB CMT12GX3M3A2000C9 and my previous overclock has failed. I've reset my BIOS setting to its default state.

    I had previously followed the overclocking guide on bit-tech and had a stable 4ghz overclock.

    Does anyone have any ideas what BIOS settings I should try changing?

    I've been at this for the last 6hours!! :sigh:
     
  2. noizdaemon666

    noizdaemon666 I'm Od, Therefore I Pwn

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    Up your VTT I think. Populating all your DIMM slots can affect overclocking stability.
     
  3. thetrashcanman

    thetrashcanman Angel headed hipsters

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    +1 to this, filling all the slots on X58 always made overclocking a pain in the ass
     
  4. David

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    I have the same board and CPU.

    Tell me your settings, and I'll try to help.

    Although, it should be fairly easy to run 20 multi at 200BLCK, with the ram at 1604MHz and 1.64vdimm.

    Depending on your CPU, 1.3v should be enough Vcore for 4GHz, with a little bump on QPI/Dram voltage to help the BCLK. IOH might need a liitle extra volts, although 200BLCK is hardly extreme.

    Enable loadline calibration, and switch off Spread Spectrum.

    Thinking about it - I'm not sure how much of an impact filling all six memory slots will have on overclocking - however, as I'll be fitting 6x2GB 2133 sticks next week I'm sure I'll find out. **Just read the above comments - looks like it's a significant factor**
     
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  5. Mandragorin

    Mandragorin What's a Dremel?

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    Thanks for the help guys. I've managed to o/c to 4ghz but have had to underclock the ram.
    Would be grateful for any help on getting the Ram settings up and whether you think any of my voltages are bit high.
    NB. Not sure how stable these settings are as I still need to run Prime95

    Here are my settings:

    Ai Overclock Tuner Manual
    CPU ratio 20
    Intel Speedstep Off
    BCLCK Frequency 200
    PCIE Frequency 100
    DRAM Frequency 1603
    UCLCK Frequency 3208
    QPI Link Data Auto

    CPU Voltage 1.3
    CPU PLL Voltage 1.96
    QPI/Dram Core Volt 1.35
    IOH Voltage Auto
    IOH PCIE Voltage Auto
    ICH Voltage Auto
    ICH PCIE Voltage Auto
    DRAM Bus Voltage 1.66
    All other settings Auto
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    Load Line On
    CPU Differential Amp 800Mv
    CPU Clock Skew Auto
    CPU spread spectrum Off
    IOH clock skew Auto
    PCIE spread spectrum Auto

    BIOS: Advance (CPU Configuration)
    CPU ratio 20
    C1E Support Off
    Hardware Prefetcher On
    Adjacent Cache Line On
    MPS & ACPI MADT Modern
    Intel Virtualisation Tech On
    CPU TM Function On
    Execute Disable Bit On
    Intel HT Tech On
    Active Processor Cores All
    A20M Off
    Intel Speed Step Off
    Intel C-State Tech Off
     
  6. LennyRhys

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    191x21 is a much better approach to 4GHz because, for some unknown reason, the even multipliers are usually unstable or (at best) extremely hard to get stable. I had my 920 for a long time and never ran it with an even multi... ever; it was always either 191x21 or 200x21.

    BCLK holes are another potential setback, and they are more evident with my 990X than they have ever been with any other CPU. My PC won't even boot with 152 BCLK... no matter what I do, it just doesn't happen. :)
     
  7. David

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    Also, take your IOH voltage out of Auto and try it at 1.20V.

    Probably asking the obvious here but, have you ruled out the possibility of a bad RAM module? One out of six is far more likely than one out of three.
     
  8. Big Elf

    Big Elf Oh no! Not another f----ing elf!

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    These are just minor points but might make a difference

    CPU PLL Voltage 1.96 - Seems quite high
    CPU Differential Amp 800Mv - Change to Normal
    PCIE spread spectrum Auto - Change to Off

    The main thing to experiment with is the QPI/Dram Core Volt. The IMC might not be a good one on that chip so you may need to go even higher for 1600MHz and a lot higher (up to 1.6v) for 2000MHz. As an example my 920 needed 1.38v for 1600MHz and 1.58v for 2000MHz at an overclock of 4.2GHz.
     
  9. David

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    Virtualisation can hamper an overclock too - not normally 4GHz, but I don't know the impact of six DIMMs on that. Try turning it off, epsecially if you don't need it.
     
  10. Mandragorin

    Mandragorin What's a Dremel?

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    Thanks for all the suggestions. Latest update on the o/c is that I've got it to 3.6ghz and the Dram frequency running at 1904Mhz.

    Changes to the above settings I made are:

    Ai Overclock Tuner - XMP
    CPU ratio - 19
    Bclck frequency - 190
    Dram frequency - 1904
    Uclck frequency - 3808
    CPU pll voltage - 1.9 (is this still a bit high?)
    Qpi/Dram core voltage - 1.45
    Ioh voltage - 1.2
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    CPU differential amp - Auto
    Pcie spread spectrum - Off

    Still need to run prime95 though.

    I did run memtest86+ and win 7 memory diagnostic, both returned no error reports
     
  11. Big Elf

    Big Elf Oh no! Not another f----ing elf!

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    A reasonable start. One thing I'd forgotten about is that the mobo might default to aggressive memory timings when you reset the BIOS so make sure you set those manually if you haven't already done so. I'd drop the CPU PLL to default (1.80v?) and then only increase it if the overclock is unstable.
     
  12. Mandragorin

    Mandragorin What's a Dremel?

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    I'm still quite new to overclocking! How do I manually set the memory timings?
     
  13. Big Elf

    Big Elf Oh no! Not another f----ing elf!

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    In 'AI Tweaker' go to 'DRAM Timing Mode' and then set the first 4 timings manually. The timings are, I think, 9-11-9-27 but check the label as it will be on there and could be 9-10-9-27. Changing the 'DRAM Timing Mode' to 2N might also aid stability.
     
  14. Mandragorin

    Mandragorin What's a Dremel?

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    Ok, thanks. I'll give that a go.
    I've got my o/c running at 4ghz with the following changes:

    CPU ratio - 21
    CPU PLL Voltage - 1.8
    Dram bus Voltage - 1.64

    I had reduced the QPI/Dram core voltage to 1.4 but that failed so back up to 1.45. I'll manually set the memory timings and then run prime95 overnight. If it's still going in the morning I'll leave it running so that I get a good 18hrs of testing.
     
  15. Big Elf

    Big Elf Oh no! Not another f----ing elf!

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    If the timing were set lower than what they're supposed to be you could try reducing the QPI voltage but it may be that your IMC (Integrated Memory Controller) on the CPU isn't brilliant especially with the 6 sticks of RAM. For the minuscule loss of performance I'd suggest dropping the RAM a notch to around 1523MHz.

    I've never had problems on the later version of that mobo with setting a BCLK of 200 and a Multi of 20 to get 4GHz and doing that would mean you could run the RAM at 1600MHz.
     
  16. towelie

    towelie How do I Internet!!

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    I have a P6T SE and a I7 930.

    Would be good to see your settings/pics/temps as i'm thinking of clocking mine to 4gh or close as possible.always been unsure what settings to apply then i think ahhh il leave it!!:wallbash:
     
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  17. Mandragorin

    Mandragorin What's a Dremel?

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    Ok guys, after a lot of tweeking here are my stable starting overclock settings (6 March column) and the settings I currently have.

    BIOS - AI Tweeker 06-Mar 10-Mar
    .................................@4ghz...@3.99
    Ai Overclock Tuner....... XMP...... XMP
    CPU ratio......................20.........21
    Intel Speedstep ...........Off
    BCLCK Frequency..........200......190
    PCIE Frequency.............100
    DRAM Frequency............1603....1904
    UCLCK Frequency..........3208.....3809
    QPI Link Data................Auto

    CPU Voltage..................1.3........1.35
    CPU PLL Voltage............1.8........1.86
    QPI/Dram Core Volt.......1.35......1.5
    IOH Voltage...................1.2........1.26
    IOH PCIE Voltage..........Auto
    ICH Voltage...................Auto
    ICH PCIE Voltage..........Auto
    DRAM Bus Voltage.........1.64......1.66
    All other settings...........Auto
    ***********************************************
    Load Line...................On
    CPU Differential Amp...Auto
    CPU Clock Skew..........Auto
    CPU spread spectrum...Off
    IOH clock skew...........Auto
    PCIE spread spectrum..Off

    BIOS - Advanced (CPU Configuration)
    CPU ratio......................20
    C1E Support.................Off
    Hardware Prefetcher....On
    Adjacent Cache Line P..On
    MPS & ACPI MADT.........Modern
    Intel Virtualisation Tech.On
    CPU TM Function...........On
    Execute Disable Bit.......On
    Intel HT Tech................On
    Active Processor Cores.All
    A20M............................Off
    Intel Speed Step...........Off
    Intel C-State Tech.........Off

    At the moment, yesterdays settings are still holding but I may try to reduce the cpu and cpu pll voltages a fraction.
    At 1.5v the qpi/Dram voltage is a little higher than I would like (just because this is my first o/c and seeing the figure in red, in the bios, is a bit scarey!)

    I'm quite happy with an o/c to 3.99ghz running with the ram at 1904mhz. Let me know what you guys think and if you have any advice on my settings.
     
  18. Big Elf

    Big Elf Oh no! Not another f----ing elf!

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    Have you changed the RAM timings to match their spec? You're going to have a high QPI voltage if you run your RAM close to their rated speed. For the slight loss of bandwidth running at a BCLK of 200 with 1600MHz means a lower QPI voltage and a bit less heat. Also you'd probably be able to reduce the DRAM voltage a bit.

    As has been mentioned before unless you use virtualisation disabling Intel Virtualisation Tech could help stability.

    I'd run it with Speedstep on. Unless you're exploring the higher reaches of overclocking it's unlikely to affect stability.
     
  19. Mandragorin

    Mandragorin What's a Dremel?

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    The dram timings are at 9-11-9-27 with timing mode at 2N. I'll switch off Virtualisation as suggested.
    So if I overclock with 21 x 200 and drop the ram to 1603mhz should I get better performance than with 21x190 with ram at 1904mhz?
     
  20. Big Elf

    Big Elf Oh no! Not another f----ing elf!

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    It'll only be noticeable in benchmarks.
     

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