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Build Advice Video editing pc

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by TobletDanillio, 30 Nov 2012.

  1. TobletDanillio

    TobletDanillio Minimodder

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    ello everyone.
    I'm building a videos editing pc for a friend that will be running windows 7 and avid media composer 6.5 (which he has a copy of already)
    It will need to edit 1080p 24fps from a Panasonic 371.
    Also if can with the budget 3D editing from two Panasonic 371 at 1080p 24fps.
    The budget is £500 and can't go over.
    I am thinking of getting
    Intel i5 2500 maybe k.
    16gb 1600mhz
    124gb ssd
    1tb hard drive
    Fx600 graphics card.

    The case needs to be small as it will be moving around a lot.

    No keyboard mouse and monitor are needed


    Thanks for your help
     
  2. Silent_Raider

    Silent_Raider What's a Dremel?

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  3. TobletDanillio

    TobletDanillio Minimodder

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    I have a list of parts that I was thinking of but Ebuyer has stopped selling a few part :'( so I am have to look again.

    I was thinking of a min ITX but it maxis at 16GB of RAM and he may need 32GB later on when he has some more money.

    but I was thinking of

    Corsair 430W V2 CX linky £36.52

    I5 2500 linky £159.78

    Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 8GB x 2 linky 29.59 x 2 = 59.18

    Seagate 1.5TB Barracuda linky £49.98

    PNY nVidia Quadro 600 linky £137.90

    Firewire Card linky £5.15

    so without the case, motherboard or SSD its £448.51 so far
     
  4. rollo

    rollo Modder

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    Budget is too small for what you require, even £600 is tight due to fx card requirement.

    If you go second hand you may get it in budget but it's tight.

    Your looking at £650 to £700 brand new for what you require
     
  5. TobletDanillio

    TobletDanillio Minimodder

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    Ok so without the ssd and only 8gb of ram what case and motherboard could he get
     
  6. rollo

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    ram cost is irelivent.

    SSD is the main expense at the minute in the build + mobo

    Motherboard will be around £80-£100 which puts you to about £600 give or take a few quid here or there.

    £33 for coolermaster elite and you at about what you need to spend
     
  7. TobletDanillio

    TobletDanillio Minimodder

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    ok some the parts I have come up with is;

    Case: Sliverstone Precision PS08B £29.08

    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H £56.10

    CPU: I5 3570 £160.22

    RAM: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB CAS 9 1600MHz £31

    Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 1TB £54.96

    Graphic Card: PNY Nvidia Quadro 600 £137.80

    PSU: Antec VP450P £30.54

    so the total is £499.67

    do you guys know anything wrong with the parts or anything better for less?
     
  8. rollo

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    Make sure ivy bridge works in that mobo.
     
  9. mm vr

    mm vr The cheesecake is a lie

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    It's B75. All 7 series chipsets support Ivy Bridge.
     
  10. TobletDanillio

    TobletDanillio Minimodder

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    I have been talking to my friend and hes get some money for his birthday and now should have £700 so what do you guys thing he could get?

    I was thinking something like this but this is a bit over budget

    Silver stone PS08
    Corsair CX 430 V2
    Gigabyte GA-H77M-D3H
    Intel I7 3770
    Arctic Freezer 11LP
    Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB
    Crucial M4 256GB
    Seagate 2TB
    PNY Nvidia Quadro 600
     
  11. jrs77

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    I still don't understand why he needs a Quadro-card for video-editing. A GT640 for £ should do it aswell, if it's needed at all to begin with. The integrated HD4000 of the i5/i7 CPU should do the trick imho, so you can cut the GPU alltogether.

    @ Silent_Raider: We've got 24% VAT in Finland, so talk about expensive :haha:
     
  12. TobletDanillio

    TobletDanillio Minimodder

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    avid media composer

    http://www.avid.com/US/products/media-composer#specifications
     
  13. jrs77

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    The recommendation is some five years old and they recommended a Quadro FX because these cards are ment for workstations instead of homeuser desktops. Additionally a modern GT640 for £70 has more power then the rather old nVidia Quadro 600 for £140.

    You should read the specifications of these cards, and see, that your suggested card only has 96 CUDA Cores and 1GB of DDR3 memory, while the GT640 has 384 CUDA cores and 2GB of DDR3 memory.

    Just for fun, here's a link to the recommended card -> http://www.amazon.com/Quadro-FX560-Nvidia-Dvi-sl-dvi-sl/dp/B000G29J0Y which now costs £50 because it's so darn old :D

    EDIT: After having read about the software in question, I've stumbled upon this -> http://www.nvidia.com/object/avid.html. Recommended there is atleast a Quadro 2000 and the performance-gain in the charts is achieved by using a Quadro 4000.

    So seriously. Either buy a cheap GPU like the GT640 and be happy with it or get atleast a decent card (GTX660 upwards) which costs some £170 to start with to see some increase in performance by using the GPU-acceleration. The Quadro 4000 costs £650 just for laughs.
     
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  14. TobletDanillio

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    ok would getting a GTX 650ti like this linky be over kill?
     
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    I've taken my time to read a little through the Avid-forums and stumbled upon this thread -> http://community.avid.com/forums/t/99188.aspx

    There's some links to hardware-configurations from Dell, HP and Lenovo and they list the HD4000 iGPU aswell there, and the recommended Quadro-cards are actually listed for the sole reason of them being the only ones really tested.

    In various other threads regarding the GPU people report no issues with using AMD-cards, or any usual retail-card from nVidia either.

    So, with any 600-series dedicated GPU you should have GPU-acceleration available for the effects in Avid Media Composer, and Avid themselves say, that the most important part is the memory of the cards, i.e. the bigger the better.

    Look for a "cheap" GTX 650 with 2GB RAM and your friend should be happy. This one for example -> http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-...-(x16)-5000mhz-gpu-1110mhz-cores-384-dvi-hdmi
     
  16. littlejames

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    I am a freelance editor by trade.

    The system I am using today is running Media Composer 6. Here is the system spec (though I dont know how helpful this will be for your build).

    HP z400 work station
    Intel Xeon W3680 (12 x 3.33Ghz)
    6Gb Ram.
    Nvidia Quadro 2000.

    Storage is ISIS.

    Its running AVID's DnxHD36 files with no problem.


    If I were you I would stick as close as possible to the specified system requirements as AVID can be quite funny about real time playback on non standard systems.
     
  17. jrs77

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    If you stick with the recommendations from Avid, then you look at a system that costs 2k, like your HP z400.
     
  18. TobletDanillio

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    I know that xeon will be better over the I7 but its the closest I can get for the budget. what res are your videos in? and have you ever tried 3d or 4k?


    this is why I'm trying to get as close as I can.

    But if GTX 650 should do it would be great
     
  19. littlejames

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    I was speaking to an AVID reseller/support engineer the other day and he suggested an i7 and trying to stick as close as you can to the suggested GPU.

    If the GPU isnt supported, he said, then AVID won't be looking for it so there will be no hardware acceleration.

    If you need i/o then I would go for one of the 3rd party options
    http://www.avid.com/US/products/media-composer#hardware-options

    AJA make some good ones, even the i/o express works well at full HD.
    For a slight;y cheaper option, Blackmagic is also solid.

    I have been working mostly in SD and HD, using DNxHD codecs. I can also run 1:1 HD.

    I must admit that very little of the work I do is at any higher res than HD. If it is, then I tend to edit using a low res proxy and it is conformed at higher res in a beefier system(online), DS Nitirs, EQ/IQ or smoke (= proper expensive).

    3D is supported, the workflow is to work on one leg at a time. Again, the finishing would normally be done in an online edit system.

    I dont know if this has been any help to you - but I thought Id let you know what I found out...
     
  20. Atomic

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    So likely over £15,000 on cameras, and he isn't willing to spend even a twentieth of that on a PC to edit the footage :sigh:
     

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