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Old 28th Nov 2016, 18:14   #4961
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In other news, ministers should really invest in folders
This was another thick of it plot where nicola murray has her"quiet bat people" idea leaked



I hope the dressing down is like this:

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Whose notes are those?
According to twitter, it was someone from the cabinet office heading into No 10 with Mark Field MP

This is the original tweet.
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Old 28th Nov 2016, 18:34   #4964
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How do so many do the singular "women" thing?
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"the Ship of State is the only known vessel that leaks from the top"

Probably purposeful.
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Nexxo, you're a doctor [or medical professional] - see if you can translate this scrawl...

Won't provide more detail. We think it is unlikely that ...
be offered the single market. Our criteria are clear --more
open the better.

Manufacturing relatively straightforward.

Services harder, because the french are hoping for buisiness.

ECJ & control of borders won't fit. Transitional --loathe to do it. Whitehall will hold onto it. We need to bring an end to the negotiation.
VVB --biggest interest is internal market.

Headlines won't change from Nov until March though.

...U ...with transition for stability but not looking for it. Why no Norway-- two elements --No ECJ intervention. --we're a rule taker beyond our trade with Europe. Unlikely to do internal market.

...trade with Europe through DexEU not DIT.

... UK exports. Only 11% of our firms export.
... 28
... agreement.

What's the model? Have cake and eat it.
Very French negotiating team
Need fair process guaranteed --in their interest too.
Canada plus --more on services.
Europe gets a good deal on security.
... EEA model not good.
... if UK exporter
... to various
... couldn't give


Under her arm:

We have common security...
Fearful for ECB. Be wary of accidental...

3. Free trade / free market. Acod[?], retworks[?]...
Industrial and service sector from manufacturing


That's what I get. Christ. Five months and that is how far they got?!?
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Five months and that is how far they got?!?
It seems so. +rep for the translation, if anyone was able to read that mess it'd be you
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That's what I get. Christ. Five months and that is how far they got?!?

Parkinsons law "work expands so as to fill the time available for its completion",
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I think that they are underestimating the task and overestimating the time available...
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Old 28th Nov 2016, 19:01   #4970
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According to twitter, it was someone from the cabinet office heading into No 10 with Mark Field MP

This is the original tweet.
Thanks.

The telegraph has an article along with the missing bottom and top sections, for anyone interested.

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I think that they are underestimating the task and overestimating the time available...
Not really all the specifics will be being done by the Civil service. The rest will just be overarching planning. They'll probably be waiting for the technocrats while they're twiddling their thumbs most days.
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That's what I get. Christ. Five months and that is how far they got?!?

They were all students - and wont have anything till the night before the assignment is due in....
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After they've gone through several deadline extensions...
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Thanks.

The telegraph has an article along with the missing bottom and top sections, for anyone interested.
Interesting. So it was the VVD. I thought so but it seemed out of place.

Still, Jezus titty Christ. Five months and they've got nowhere.
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Interesting. So it was the VVD. I thought so but it seemed out of place.
Aren't they Geert Wilder's nutters?
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No, that's the PVV. The VVD are the Dutch equivalent of Thatcherite Tories.
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So are these VVD people trying to get lessons on how to leave the EU?
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Considering we haven't even figured out the process of triggering article 50 yet that would be like taking fishing lessons from a toddler.
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So are these VVD people trying to get lessons on how to leave the EU?
Quite the contrary --they are pro-EU like indeed most British Tory MPs are. But the Netherlands does a lot of business with the UK so it too will want as soft a Brexit as possible.

What the press, in its typical UK-centric perspective is missing, is that possibly there has been some behind-the-scenes coaching of the UK in how to approach negotiations with the EU (by the Netherlands and I suspect also Poland). Let's hope they listen.
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No, that's the PVV. The VVD are the Dutch equivalent of Thatcherite Tories.
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