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Old 18th Feb 2017, 11:03   #5961
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If Article 50 can be revoked (and the author says it can), then parliament could back out of Brexit if the negotiated deal is perceived to be disastrous.
Personally I'm more interested in what the EU says on the revocation, if they say it can't that makes all the discussion over a vote in the UK parliament on the final deal rather mute.
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Credit due, certainly has a damn good go at dictating the present, Assumes he knows the future based on the information he can aquire in the present, but has complete ignorance towards the past.

The Roman Empire had the same perspective and look where they ended up.
People seem to forget the political EU is on a single track to fail (long before Brexit), like Rome, in ignorance, big time.
Isn't that a bit contradictory? You say someone assumes he knows the future based on the information he can aquire in the present and then you make an assumption yourself, i guess based on information you acquired in the present, that you know what the future holds in store for the EU.

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Old 18th Feb 2017, 11:35   #5962
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Some people here sure seem to get worked up about my opinion, considering that according to them I don't know what I'm talking about.

If Brexit is going to be such an awesome success, why are the Brexiteers not just getting on with it? Why the delay in triggering Article 50? Why all the outrage at Remainers? Why are they still campaigning? Oh yeah, to distract people from the fact that they don't actually have a plan and don't know what the **** they're doing.

But, you know, points for mentioning the cliché of the Roman Empire.
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 12:09   #5963
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Tbf I'd say there was more similarities between Britain and the Roman Empire rather than the Eu.

Brexit is just accelerating the decline of countries who's empire collapsed and went bankrupt, other countries are just picking the meat of the bones atm.
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 13:58   #5964
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Personally I'm more interested in what the EU says on the revocation, if they say it can't that makes all the discussion over a vote in the UK parliament on the final deal rather mute.
That is the problem, Article 50 is an EU rule after all so we get no say in it (we had that chance when it was being written and didn't take it) and can you really imagine May asking the EU to allow the reversal of it in the run up to the 2020 General Election?
I can't.
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 18:19   #5965
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I've been wondering who's lining Tony B.Liar's pockets right now.

Any faith I might have had in that man was fired into the stratosphere with the Afghanistan/Iraq nonsense (Not that there was much to begin with), and has made me very suspicious of his motives. Even if he is speaking for 'my side' as it were.

I'm pretty sure, if we trigger A50, and then two years later say 'actually nevermind', the EU might (rightly) tell us to sling our hooks anyway.
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For me the smoking gun is the fact that every single politician that supported leave during the referendum campaign has resigned or shuffled sideways while blowing raspberries while refusing to admit to their promises.
Where the f*** is Farage?
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Farage is in hiding from the German authorities.
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He's doing what he does best. Being a piece of ****.

Hopefully floating face down in the same cess pit trump is inhabiting.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39016179

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Yeah, our own little mini-Trump. The PVV is dropping in the polls, however. Trump's antics have been scaring people off.
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Yeah, our own little mini-Trump. The PVV is dropping in the polls, however. Trump's antics have been scaring people off.
don't worry , the polls said it would be a hung parliament in the uk in 2015....
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Dutch politics doesn't quite work like British politics. Even if the PVV gets the majority vote, any two other parties can form a coalition and outnumber him. If he manages to strike a coalition, he'll have to temper his promises and his attitude. He can't hold a EU referendum, and he cannot legally ban mosques as he has promised. Nor can he legally ban Muslims from entering the country.

So there's going to be a lot of disappointed voters.
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if somehow he gets the majority of the seats on offer then he can rule on his own - however unlikely that will ever happen
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That's a lot of seats. And even then what he promises is legally impossible.
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That's a lot of seats. And even then what he promises is legally impossible.
aye I know - CDA was closest in 1989 with 54 seats , but nothing in the last 120 years has been 1 party

could 2017 be the next :P
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If there is one thing you can count on, that is for the Dutch to disagree with each other. Constantly.
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Back on topic (kinda), I see some interesting new patterns in the information flow around Brexit. Let's see how this develops...
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Yeah, lovely piece of oratory; shame about the epic piece of fail-cock delivering it.
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