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£1.1 billion in fines

Discussion in 'Serious' started by Teelzebub, 15 Nov 2014.

  1. Teelzebub

    Teelzebub Up yours GOD,Whats best served cold

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    £1.1 billion: that’s how much massive banks like HSBC and RBS coughed up this week in UK fines. [1] That’s a lot of unexpected cash. Together we can make sure the government spends it well.

    The NHS is desperately in need of more money: squeezed services, short-cuts in care, longer waiting times. [2] So let's challenge the government to put this unexpected cash from the banks to good use - protecting our NHS.

    George Osborne’s making the decision right now. He wants us to think that the government are good for the NHS. Let’s make him - and his Treasury - prove it. If tens of thousands of us sign a petition today telling him to put that £1.1bn into the NHS, we could make it embarrassing for him to refuse.

    Click here to sign the petition to the Treasury now:
    https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/banking-fines-petition

    The government have used the money they've received from misbehaving banks for social good before. Last year, they spent the fines on help for war veterans. [3] A huge petition to George Osborne and the Treasury today, telling them to spend this new money on vital NHS care, could make sure they do it.

    38 Degrees members make protecting the NHS a top priority because we know that it's literally a matter of life and death. We want to live in a country where everyone gets the care they need, whether they are rich or poor. The less funding the NHS gets, the more that’s under threat. So let’s try and get this extra £1.1 billion from immoral bankers spent on frontline NHS services.

    Tell the Treasury now: spend the £1.1bn on the NHS. Click here to sign:
    https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/banking-fines-petition


    Thanks for being involved,

    Nat, Susannah, Blanche & the 38 Degrees team


    PS: This £1.1 billion wouldn't solve everything. Privatisation is looming and there’s a long-term need for much better funding. Just this morning, the government pledged £300m to the NHS to help through the winter - but the BMA Council, who represent doctors, said it was a “sticking plaster”, and called for much, much more. [4]

    This £1.1bn is a sticking plaster too. But it would definitely help. And what better way to spend the ill-gotten gains of bankers? Please sign the petition now:
    https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/banking-fines-petition


    NOTES:
    [1] BBC: Six banks fined £2.6bn by regulators over forex failings:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30016007
    The six banks were charged a total of £2.6bn, and £1.1bn of that is being paid to the UK. The rest is being paid to the US.
    [2] Guardian: Norman Lamb: ‘NHS could crash without emergency £1.5bn funding’:
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/11/norman-lamb-lib-dem-nhs-crash-emergency-funding
    Guardian: NHS finances in crisis due to rising demand and budget cuts:
    http://www.theguardian.com/society/...and-budget-cuts-30-billion-pound-deficit-2020
    [3] BBC: Bank fines go to good causes after rule change:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25214567
    [4] Independent: Hospitals and A&Es to get extra £300m to combat “unprecendented” winter pressure:
    http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...at-unprecedented-winter-pressure-9859261.html
     
  2. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    Signed. About time that the finance industry paid some taxes. :p
     
  3. Ramble

    Ramble Ginger Nut

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    The finance industry pays over 10% of total tax in the country, it's not true that they pay no tax.
     
  4. Kronos

    Kronos Multimodder

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    I do not believe that flinging more money at a problem is the best way forward. I can only really speak for my own health board up here in Scotland but through a bunch of Freedom of information requests the amount of money wasted runs into the tens of millions of pounds. PPI is a massive drain to the Lothian NHS , failed IT projects account for millions more wasted, a name change for the complaints department but there are many many other examples. of poor financial management. The NHS seems to employ more and more bureaucrats all on good salaries with job titles which mean nothing to the ordinary person whilst wards go short staffed and I have personal experience of this.

    Health care professionals spend far to much time worrying about ever increasing targets set by politicians which rarely benefit the patients.

    I suspect that these issues affect every health board in the UK. As for the paltry 2.1 billion levied on the banks yet no criminal proceedings whatsoever. Over claim benefits and feel the full wrath of the law and rightly so. Almost bring down the worlds economy,because of in many respects criminal actions, get a slap on the wrist.

    Divi this cash between the many health boards seems pointless as the the amounts would be small to have any real effect on patient care even supposing it was even spent on this.
     
  5. hyperion

    hyperion Minimodder

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    I thought they were supposed to pay £2bn, at least that what I heard on BBC yesterday.
     
  6. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    While that may sound good it's not, for 2012-2013.

    Income Tax was £154bn
    National insurance was £104bn
    VAT was £101bn
    Finance industry was £63.0bn (11.6%)
    Corporation tax was £39bn
    Fuel duties was £26bn

    Total tax income for 2012-2013 was £550.6bn
     
  7. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    I am minded to wonder how much of that went back to bailing them out...
     
  8. MightyBenihana

    MightyBenihana Do or do not, there is no try

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