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Old 1st Jan 2017, 10:46   #261
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wages in certain sectors in Ireland are good for the reason of migration - many young people want to leave for opportunities elsewhere
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I'm calling it here first: in the next three years there will be a referendum on: "Keep the NHS"/"Replace the NHS".
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I don't see what you're describing happening anytime soon Nexxo, despite how you see the NHS it's highly valued in the general population and I'd venture to say most people believe it's bad management (*top level) that causes most of the problems.

Added to that is that there appears to be high levels of support (historically) for renationalising some of the UK's infrastructure like the railways, it's just my opinion so maybe I'm seeing things through rose tinted glasses but i get the impression fewer people see privatisation as the cure to all problems.

*Constant reorganisations from MP's because it's treated as a political football.
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Old 1st Jan 2017, 11:06   #263
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I'm hoping you're right...
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We already are seeing it - the inverse care law is very much at work

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I agree with Corky, I think general support for the NHS is still quite high amongst the public especially for hospital staff.

I think where people aren't so supportive is GPs, I think privatisation is likely to start there.
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It doesn't help that in real terms the funding for GP's has been falling while patient numbers have been rising.
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Welcome to tory governments. Including me (teacher of 10 years) we have representatives from every major public service: crime, health and education. All of our departments are being royally ****ed over (and no I'm not sorry for swearing). The issues we're facing in education have become chronic and those issues all feedback into the 2 services that Mr Happy and Nexxo work for. That then passes onto the new parents and the whole screwed up torrid cycle starts again.

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My new job certainly is! Absolutely loving it!
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In direct response to the thread title: no. For part of the week, I'm the ICT Technician of a 500 pupil primary school with somewhere between 65-70 staff. In education like so much of the public sector, I am paid a salary which is incremented each year to account for cost of living increases, but the increments are not the problem, the tiers are. In my case, I have been on the second tier of a possible three for the past three years and five months. I cannot be promoted to the third tier post without moving organizations because it's a level reserved for post-primary schools. What makes the issue worse is that my specific circumstances and the post I’ve been in for the past four years and five months have become what can only be described as a nightmare.

I won’t go into the details because at this point I could write a short book about it and I know nobody wants to read it, but I’ll cut a long story short by saying that I made myself indispensable to the organization and in return, the staff and management eventually began to take the extra duties and favours that I was doing for them for granted, so I ended up doing parts of other people’s jobs for them as well as my own. It was originally a part-time post, I requested a change to full time which was granted just over a year ago, then they reduced it back to part time at the start of this year.

It is a full time job. Most of it is not the most technically challenging IT work in the world, but the sheer amount of it is often overwhelming and the parts of it that aren’t challenging to me would be to someone who hadn’t been managing the equipment and systems that I have been for so long. I’ve become so familiar with everything and everyone in the organization that I’ve become extremely efficient and effective at solving technical faults or even avoiding them altogether.

The school has steadily grown each year that I’ve been employed there, and with it my workload went through the roof. More staff, pupils, equipment, projects, schemes and so on has all caused my workload to roughly double in the past 18 months. As a good friend and former colleague in the same organization once said, I have “dragged them kicking and screaming out of the dark ages” and doing so has required a lot more than my original job description outlined, but it has been a costly endeavour.

You see, there is only so much of that you can do for what can only be described as peanuts compared to the rest of the industry, before you get old, wise, tired or stressed out enough that you can’t do it any longer. Throw in some management problems, some personal problems etc. and you’ve got a ticking time bomb. That time bomb went off for me many months ago, and the final nail in the coffin was learning that my hours were to be cut back to part-time again just before Christmas. So on Monday morning I submitted my letter of resignation and gave the management the required four weeks’ notice that they would need to find another electrician, network engineer, IT technician, sound engineer, AV technician, software developer, infrastructure specialist and electronics engineer to overwork and under-pay.

This is partially my fault; you might call me a glutton for punishment. I’ve been over-qualified for this job since day one and have been over-worked and under-paid since August of 2015, so I should have left then but didn’t. In hindsight, the cost of staying to my health and career development were far too great, and I wish that I’d been able to cut the cord back then. I will be there until the 10th of March, then I'll be moving to the private sector, working for a global engineering and manufacturing company who are well known for offering plenty of promotions to hard-working staff.
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Sounds like you are making the right move, Unicorn. Good luck in the new job!
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Yep good luck in the new venture - I feel sorry for the person who has to fill your shoes!
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Yep good luck in the new venture - I feel sorry for the person who has to fill your shoes!
Thanks guys. I definitely wish that I was leaving on better terms, but that's not always how things work out and it's time to do what's best for my career and my health, instead of sacrificing them for the people and the organization I work for. It's not the same organization that I joined 4+ years ago anyway, and a lot of my colleagues would agree with that. It has taken a lot out of many of the staff over the past couple of years, myself included. I'm sad to be leaving behind a lot of great colleagues and friends, but at the same time I am looking forward to leaving behind the stressful workload, constant firefighting and mediocre pay grade.
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Good job Uni. Sometimes it is hard to recognise when we should leave for something better. A bit like you I stayed where I was too long and can pin point exactly when I should have left. It annoys me a bit that I wasted time and motivation due to familiarity and sitting in the comfort zone. But hindsight is 20/20 and I got out eventually.

Anyway since I'm posting in this thread: My current job pays less than my previous one and I live in a more expensive area. But I also have massive opportunity to learn more than I ever could where I was, so the trade off is mostly worth it. Plus I now have a career that will suit me in the longer term. So to answer the original question...yes.
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Jobs : National Training Coordinator/Corperate Events Manager for a nondepartmental public body
Wage : 16,125
Worth it : Not really - i have been in this position now 19 months and none of the promised development and/or opportunities have arison, i was earning more when i was studying at university and working on contracts (project support officer - contracts in excess of 25k per annum - those days where nice) - but now i am leaving this hell hole for the coast in 2 weeks, for greener pastures and hopefully a job in London some time down the line!

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Jobs : De Vere Hotel Group - The Village Leeds
Wage : 5.80 an hour
Worth it : not one single bit - i am a barman, i work maybe 10 - 15 hours a week, yet i am supopsed to complete the excellence programme and sit exams and do e-learning in my own time, the hardest minimum wage i have ever had to earn. so much so i dont think i am going in for my next shift or ever again as i really dont need the money THAT much.
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Job: SMB IT guy

Wage: 24k plus phone/laptop etc

I look after maybe 40 odd servers, a couple of hundred desktops and deal with helping my clients plan and execute IT strategies. I also do consultation jobs for other business and help their IT departments.

Is it worth it?: I don't think so, I think my wage is mediocre.
Wow, this thread is good! I didn't realise I had posted in it twice. In the last 18 months i've been working my ass off, which is why i've stepped back from the forum a bit.

Job: Senior Technical Manager

Wage: Decent package - monthly profit share, BMW company car

i'm responsible for the technical department at a managed service provider with over a million turnover a year, so not a massive company but not tiny, I train engineers of all levels and deliver projects from small, to a few hundred k. I also run the apprenticeship program and try and get a new apprentice in every year. All of which I find extremely rewarding. I personally contributed about 200k of the turnover last year, which also makes me very happy.

Is it worth it?: Yes.
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