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Old 1st Dec 2014, 21:34   #141
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We've had the same numbers game with firefox and chrome.
What I want to know is if I will be able to upgrade the consumer preview that is coming soon to full retail with a purchased key
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Old 2nd Dec 2014, 21:42   #142
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Kind of a random question, but...

Is Windows Movie maker still around, or did that end with the W7 version?
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Old 2nd Dec 2014, 22:11   #143
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It appears to still be around: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...maker-download
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Old 2nd Dec 2014, 22:53   #144
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Is anyone brave enough to put the consumer preview on their main rig?
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Is anyone brave enough to put the consumer preview on their main rig?
Have been running it as my sole OS since it became available. Haven't had any major issues.
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I put it on my laptop. My laptop is now dead.
Windows 10 killed my laptop!
Although I suspect that after 6 years the Radeon graphics just gave up since I get no screen output to the internal display.

I did like what I saw until it died, but then I'm happy with 8.1 (I wasn't a huge fan of 8) but 8.1 fixed my major niggles, just for kicks I'm going to try to install it onto an original atom n270 netbook, OK I've bumped the memory to 2gb and dropped an ssd in there but I'm keen to see how it handles the lower spec hardware, it seemed snappy enough on my old turion laptop.
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Interesting, I will need to do a fresh install of windows soon and I'm thinking of holding off and trying the consumer preview. Is AMD driver support likely to be an issue? I don't see official support on the AMD driver page.
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It wasn't for me, beta drivers were there, installed well and played nice, I didn't get to experiment too much though.

I suspect the demise of my laptop had something to do with my stripping it down and not reapplying the thermal pad correctly on the graphics chip.
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Than I will give it a try in 2 months when the consumer preview is rumored to release
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Looks like it hasn't changed from the Windows 7 version I'm running. Thanks
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Windows 10: Microsoft plans to let users upgrade from Preview to RTM builds

There’s good news on that front – although it does come with one important caveat. As WinBeta reports, Microsoft’s Gabriel Aul, who works on the Windows Insider program, was asked a few days ago on Twitter if it would be possible to upgrade to the RTM build from the Preview branch of releases, to which he replied: “Yes, that is our intent.”

Clearly, then, Microsoft is planning to offer a direct upgrade path for those using preview builds to the RTM version that will ship when the OS finally launches next year. But it's important to consider Aul's wording carefully, as he does not state outright that this will be the case, but merely that it is Microsoft’s “intent” to make that happen.

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And finding new ways to monetize the lifetime of that customer on those devices, again, I would tell you we’re learning, we’re growing, and we’re smarter and wiser every day. And we still have some more learning and growing to do in that space. But, stay tuned. The business model stuff will be out in the early — probably the early part of 2015.
Beyond that specific comment, Turner also stated that they will not be using the platform as a loss-leader. This means that the company plans to generate revenue from the platform and will not give it away to simply maintain market share.

http://www.neowin.net/news/in-the-fa...tizing-windows
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Microsoft makes a nod to subscriptions for Windows 10
Company looks for new ways to monetize platform to avoid making it a loss leader.

The implication, then, is that Microsoft is looking at generating some kind of on-going revenue from Windows users to replace the initial purchase. Previous rumors have already pointed toward the creation of Windows subscriptions, and Turner's answer also points at some kind of subscription system.

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Anyone getting the feeling that Windows 10 may turn out to be a decent OS only to be ruined by the management with some stupid choices like subscriptions, forcing a Microsoft account on people, or forcing the OS to check validation everyday.
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Windows 10 build 9901 shows new consumer features

A little more than a month from now, Microsoft will pull back the curtain on Windows 10's consumer features. Thanks to Paul Thurrott of the eponymous SuperSite for Windows, though, we can already catch an early glimpse of what Microsoft has in store. Thurrott has posted a whole boatload of screenshots from build 9901 of Windows 10, showing such things as:

- A more fleshed-out version of Cortana, Microsoft's voice-activated digital assistant, complete with a search field right in the taskbar.
- A unified Store app that combines "apps, games, music, and movies & TV" with "document-style vertical navigation" (meaning, hopefully, no more horizontal scrolling).
- Revamped Xbox and Photos apps.
- A new Settings app that "shows how Microsoft may replace both PC Settings and Control Panel with a single UI." Microsoft replacing Windows' weird mish-mash of new and old control panels seems long overdue.
- Plus some visual styling changes, including a black taskbar, new buttons on Modern UI window frames, and a handful of fresh wallpapers.

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Anyone getting the feeling that Windows 10 may turn out to be a decent OS only to be ruined by the management with some stupid choices like subscriptions, forcing a Microsoft account on people, or forcing the OS to check validation everyday.
If subscription is optional, it may offer an alternative for some, like Office 365. Cost per year for a three-year lifespan until the next upgrade is not that different from buying the suite outright.

Daily validation check? Can't see that happening. Not all PCs are constantly tethered to the net.
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Office 365 is very pricy if you're a single user.
You may need to tell Microsoft that not everyone is tethered to the net, they thought every Xbox owner was.
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True, but XBox is a home device, whereas Windows may be running on anything from PCs in the Arctic to laptops on a train (without WiFi).

Then again, not the first time that the Microsoft board acted dumber than a sack of squirrels...
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Let's just hope the suits don't throw a spanner in the works.
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You may need to tell Microsoft that not everyone is tethered to the net, they thought every Xbox owner was.
Not really, as you don't just get office with the sub... You Skype minutes [60/month iirc] and extra OneDrive space [10TB currently, though I have the 5-license sub, the 'personal' sub might be less]... Factor those into the cost and it's actually not a bad deal... You also get access to more of the suite than you would if you just bought a copy of 'Home and Student'...


As for constant internet connection, it doesn't need one, though it does ask you to sign in again every now and again...


As for making windows a subscription, whilst the sub model doesn't bother me for office, I'd still rather buy windows outright if I can... though ultimately it all depends on the price and what if anything you get in the way of extras...
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