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Portable Re-install windows with no DVD or USB.

Discussion in 'Tech Support' started by Deders, 5 Aug 2011.

  1. Deders

    Deders Modder

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    Just been passed a friends netbook that had so many virus's on, Installing AVG and running a scan rendered it completely unusable. When you boot it gets as far as a flashing cursor, straight after the Bois.

    So probably for the best to wipe and re-install windows 7. Only problem is there is no DVD drive, or option in the bios to boot from USB. It is a Toshiba NB200-12N with bios version 1.6, which gives me the options to boot from HDD/SDD, FDD (??? non-existant floppy) and LAN. Tried with a bootable USB stick plugged in and it's no different.

    So what are my options? I've successfully installed XP in the past by transplanting the disk into my PC, used a specific command line to copy the files over so it would start the install from the hard disk once I put it back in the machine. Is there a way to do this with 7?

    Even if there is I'll need a * shaped screwdriver to even get to the disk. I presume netbook SATA connectors are the same as standard ones? (had to get an IDE adapter last time).

    Failing that does anyone have any experience with installing over LAN? Last time I tried it was overcomplicated and kept stopping halfway.

    Any advice would be appreciated.
     
  2. mrbungle

    mrbungle Undercooked chicken giver

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    All netbooks I have ever come across boot from usb.

    Even if you did open it up it would prob have a ziff conector for the drive, not sata.
     
  3. Phalanx

    Phalanx Needs more dragons and stuff.

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    External USB DVD-ROM drive?

    What was the problem with the USB drive? Not something silly like boot order or just not selecting it from boot menu, was it? Enabling USB in the BIOS also is often overlooked. I would try again, were it me.
     
  4. Deders

    Deders Modder

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    The only USB options are:

    USB sleep and charge, Disabled, and modes 1 to 4.

    Legacy USB support.

    There is no option to boot from USB in the boot menu. Just going to check if the flash drive is actually bootable in my machine.
     
  5. Deders

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    Flash drive boots in my machine no problem, would an external DVD have a better chance of being recognised by the bios?
     
  6. Phalanx

    Phalanx Needs more dragons and stuff.

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    Can you find out what those modes are? One of them should enable the USB to be recognised. If you can't boot to USB, then you may have the same problem with an external DVD-ROM drive. I would look into those options.
     
  7. mrbungle

    mrbungle Undercooked chicken giver

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    Id bet if you stuck a usb cd drive in the netbook then pressed f12 on boot it would show up in the boot menu.
     
  8. Deders

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    Will give that a try when I get my hands on one, the flash drive doesn't show up in the USB menu, the laptop that I had to perform the disk transplant on above wouldn't let me use a portable DVD drive either.
     
  9. Phalanx

    Phalanx Needs more dragons and stuff.

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    Plug the USB stick in, turn the PC on, load the boot menu. What options do you get?
     
  10. Deders

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    Just HDD/SDD and LAN

    and enter setup
     
  11. Phalanx

    Phalanx Needs more dragons and stuff.

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    Might be a silly question, but you're sure you've setup the USB stick correctly? In terms of file structure, etc.
     
  12. Deders

    Deders Modder

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    used these instructions, works fine in my PC
     
  13. Phalanx

    Phalanx Needs more dragons and stuff.

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    Fair enough :) In that case, have a look at those modes you found in the BIOS. There has to be something that allows USB reading.

    What's the model of the laptop otherwise, I'll have a look.
     
  14. Deders

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    It is a Toshiba NB200-12N with bios version 1.6, just checking the manual now. Apparently there is a recovery partition that you need to hold 0 to access when you power on but it doesn't seem to work for me.
     
  15. Phalanx

    Phalanx Needs more dragons and stuff.

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    OK, some quick research shows you need to flash the BIOS to at least v1.9 for USB boot options.

    What version are you running?
     
  16. Deders

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    1.6,:wallbash:
     
  17. Phalanx

    Phalanx Needs more dragons and stuff.

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    Therein lies your problem. I guess that option's out then.

    You could try the external DVD-ROM drive, it might still work as they do read differently, and the BIOS update doesn't mention if it might be only USB sticks.
     
  18. Deders

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    Worth a try, will have to wait until I get hold of one. The manual points towards there being a recovery CD you can boot from, which implies bootable CD functionality but then it also says you can press 0 when you power on to access the same features which doesn't seem to work. It just hangs until I let go of 0 instead of going to the warning screen like the manual says it should.

    It's possible someone might have removed the recovery partition.
     
  19. thelaw

    thelaw What's a Dremel?

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    You might be able to get that screw out with a normal flat blade screw driver if the screw is not in tight, thought star shape ones are available cheaply enough..i think the easier solution will be to remove the drive and slot into another lappy with a dvd drive or into a pc with a spare sata port..
     
  20. Deders

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    Do you think i'll need a ziff to sata adapter?

    Do you know how to copy all the files that are necessary to start the install form another computer. I found a way for XP but after doing so I could never find it again.

    Would this work if i transplanted it back to the netbook? and would marking the netbooks drive as active mess up my system?
     

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