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Build Advice New ITX build, will AM1 cut it.

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by CrapBag, 17 Jan 2015.

  1. CrapBag

    CrapBag Multimodder

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    After my recent purchase of a CM 110 elite case I have decided that instead of transfering my present mini ITX pc into it I'm going to build from scratch. (apart from the psu which I'm swapping out and cutting unecessary cables).

    What I need to know is if an AM1 mini itx board with the quad core 5350 and a dedicated gpu (probably a 560ti if I can find a small enough one 2nd hand) will cut it for like league of legends and lego games.

    My current mini itx has a 560ti and a G2030 pentium and it plays these games fine on my 1080p tv.
     
  2. CrapBag

    CrapBag Multimodder

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    No one got any ideas?
     
  3. GeorgeStorm

    GeorgeStorm Aggressive PC Builder

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    I've only used the slightly higher model APUs from AMD (and I love them I must add) which I've no doubt would play the games you'd like even without a dedicated gpu. The AM1 chips are certainly less powerful, but I'm not sure how cpu intensive those games are.
     
  4. flame696

    flame696 Terminating People Since 1980....

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    I was going to go down the same route as you crapbag. The AM1 setup should be ok with those game it shouldn't bottleneck the GPU
     
  5. modd1uk

    modd1uk Multimodder

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    I think the Pentium will have more CPU grunt than the AM1 though?
     
  6. CrapBag

    CrapBag Multimodder

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    That's what I was thinking being a higher clock speed but then the AM1 does have 4 cores if they were utilised by the game.
     
  7. TheMadDutchDude

    TheMadDutchDude The Flying Dutchman

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    I would have to agree. The Pentium would have more grunt.
     
  8. modd1uk

    modd1uk Multimodder

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    My advice dude, if the pentium runs the games fine and you're concerned about the AM1 being able to cut the mustard then keep the Pentium.

    I know it's a nice feeling getting shiney new hardware but I with given your doubts you're better off keeping with the hardware you have and know works.
     
  9. CrapBag

    CrapBag Multimodder

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    ..but I want both mini ITX pc's up and running?
     
  10. modd1uk

    modd1uk Multimodder

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    DOH serves me right for not reading the first line properly my bad.

    Have you seen this in the market place?

    http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=280989

    Nearly bought it myself, not sure how much you could pick up a 1150 itx board for but maybe worth a punt? Also note that the AM1 boards unless you go asrock come with 2 sata ports.
     
  11. CrapBag

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    I was looking at an asrock board for that very reason :)
     
  12. davvy76

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    This should give you an idea of gaming performance with a 750 ti, very similar to the 560 ti in performance depending on the game:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3hD0YYPORo

    Theres a vid kicking about somewhere with the 5350 running bf4 with a 750 too.
     
  13. CrapBag

    CrapBag Multimodder

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    Looking at anandtechs cpu benches it looks like it can do 37fps in BF4 at 1080p paired with a 770 so it should be more than capable of games like league and lego with a 560 or 750.
     
  14. Parge

    Parge the worst Super Moderator

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    well I mean, how CPU heavy are those titles? The AM1 CPUs have pretty poor IPC. They can run windows pretty well, but I'm not sure I'd like to do any CPU heavy gaming on them.

    Also, you might want to try them without the 560ti - unless you already have that - and if you do a Pentium K would be far, far better.
     
  15. CrapBag

    CrapBag Multimodder

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    My understanding was that bf4 was cpu heavy and it copes with that according to that bench.

    I'd rather go the pentium route but the boards are that much dearer again.
     
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    13eightyfour Formerly Titanium Angel

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    I've got a 'decommissioned' (replaced by FireTV) 5350 HTPC in the cupboard, I'll drag it out and see how the Lego games play tomorrow. I never actually played a game with it!
     
  17. CrapBag

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    Thanks the results would be very useful to know.
     
  18. javaman

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    AM1 PCI-E Slots also only run at x4
     
  19. 13eightyfour

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    I've just had a quick play of Lego:LOTR, running MSI Afterburner to monitor frame rates etc.

    Being short on time I only ran the first 'scene' and with the default quality settings I was getting 25-30FPS, which is low but the game was perfectly playable without any issues.

    Not the most technical experiment but anything more strenuous wouldn't have been playable.
     
  20. GeorgeStorm

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    That was using the integrated gpu right?

    I would assume with a dedicated card you'd get a decent improvement.
     

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