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  1. Pete J

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  2. Kernel

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    Disk redundancy is not a backup, also 2 backups = 1 back up.
     
  3. dancingbear84

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    This is something I try to get across to people on a daily basis.
    Raid is not a backup.
    Backup to at least 2 places to be on the safe side.
    Bad times for the hosting company
     
  4. Gareth Halfacree

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    I echo the very excellent sentiments in these replies, along with the classic "a backup isn't a backup until you know you can restore from it."
     
  5. David

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    Couldn't agree more
    Um.. wut?
     
  6. Kernel

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    Basically you shouldn't consider yourself to have a backup unless you have a backup of your backup.
    Also that you know that you can restore from it.

    More then once I've seen people say yes we have a backup, which they have but when they try a recovery it fails spectacularly!
     
  7. David

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    I understand, but that still doesn't mean 2 backups = 1 backup.

    2 Backups is 2 backups. Yes, one might fail on restore but so might both. In which case 2 backups equals no backup. I know that's silly, and less likely, but it's just an extension of what you said.
     
  8. Kernel

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    True. I think the saying stems more from not to relying on a single point of failure back up. It something I've seen mentioned and I like the ethos of it.
    If one of your backup solutions dies, there is a another to go off. Ideally best practice and due diligence would have these in separate buildings and have disaster recovery test in both, but I know it hard to do sometimes.
    My favourite is when people come in to test infrastructure redundancy by pulling random cables out of servers. :waah: :wallbash:
     
  9. Edwards

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    I always read this as: The first backup is the planned recovery process, the second backup is the backup plan in case the planned recovery fails. There is a certain redundancy to it though, unless you are using a different backup method for the second backup as well as it being stored in a different location.
     

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