1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Hardware What is the Best Graphics Card for Folding 2011?

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by arcticstoat, 26 Apr 2011.

  1. arcticstoat

    arcticstoat Minimodder

    Joined:
    19 May 2004
    Posts:
    917
    Likes Received:
    21
  2. David

    David μoʍ ɼouმ qᴉq λon ƨbԍuq ϝʁλᴉuმ ϝo ʁԍɑq ϝμᴉƨ

    Joined:
    7 Apr 2009
    Posts:
    17,447
    Likes Received:
    5,851
    No surprises there then. Well, apart from the fact that a 560Ti can turn out roughly the same PPD as my GTX 295.

    Still, it was a worthwhile update.

    I wonder, what ever happened to the update that was supposed to improve performance on AMD cards?
     
  3. confusis

    confusis Kiwi-modder

    Joined:
    5 Jan 2006
    Posts:
    2,406
    Likes Received:
    63
    Delayed as per usual..

    Oh well - seems my GTS450 purchase tommorow is justified, shame I'm defecting to a smaller team..sorry guys!
     
  4. borandi

    borandi What's a Dremel?

    Joined:
    27 Jan 2010
    Posts:
    128
    Likes Received:
    1
    This project is not the whole of medical science. In fact, it barely hits the scanner. The randomisation implementation of the protein chains means it's a very brute force way of solving protein folding issues. If they actually delved deeper into the mathematics, they could find general results/equation-esque type expressions to solve a range of problems overnight, rather than several years plugging away using millions of Watts of power and energy.

    People with ATI cards can help dramatically with other Distributed Computing projects, such as stellar dynamics (MilkyWay@Home, part of the BOINC network).
     
  5. Toploaded

    Toploaded What's a Dremel?

    Joined:
    28 Mar 2010
    Posts:
    371
    Likes Received:
    6
    Please don't take this the wrong way anyone, I'm genuinely curious. What motivates people to spend the time, money on parts and electricity, to fold 24/7? Is it the warm feeling of helping the possible progression of mankind, or it it just a kudos thing? (such as Bit-Tech being proud of their top ten status). It does seem like a pretty cool collective project in all, and I'm impressed with how seriously some people take it. Just seems like such a selfless act I wondered what drove people into it.

    I would expect, at the very least, Steam achievements for such an endeavor :)
     
  6. GiantKiwi

    GiantKiwi What's a Dremel?

    Joined:
    6 Jan 2011
    Posts:
    427
    Likes Received:
    6
    @borandi: how much more efficient are the other projects for ATi Cards? mine are apparently barely pulling 3k ppd each according to that, which kinda seems pointless.
     
  7. DbD

    DbD Minimodder

    Joined:
    13 Dec 2007
    Posts:
    519
    Likes Received:
    14
    It was never more then a hopeful rumour circulated by the fanboys.
     
  8. impar

    impar Minimodder

    Joined:
    24 Nov 2006
    Posts:
    3,109
    Likes Received:
    44
    Greetings!
    Here you have a link for the fanboy rumour:
     
  9. David

    David μoʍ ɼouმ qᴉq λon ƨbԍuq ϝʁλᴉuმ ϝo ʁԍɑq ϝμᴉƨ

    Joined:
    7 Apr 2009
    Posts:
    17,447
    Likes Received:
    5,851
    Yeah, but an update that improves performance would only benefit F@H - so you have to wonder why they haven't produced something.
     
  10. DwarfKiller

    DwarfKiller What's a Dremel?

    Joined:
    25 Nov 2010
    Posts:
    116
    Likes Received:
    1
    I get the feeling all the Radeon 5/6xxxs were working on Core11 Work Units.
    I was running my 5870 through the BETA client and there is a huge difference in Folding performance between Core11 and Core16 units.
     
  11. DbD

    DbD Minimodder

    Joined:
    13 Dec 2007
    Posts:
    519
    Likes Received:
    14
    I have every right to be very sceptical.

    Since the 3xxx series of cards came out there have been threads full of fanboys proclaiming their cards are actually much faster then the green ones, quoting theoretical stats, and saying there's the magical update for folding home just around the corner that will unlock their true potential. Every new generation of card that comes out gets tested with folding home, is found to be slower, then gets followed by a rumour that in-fact folding home isn't using that new card properly and if it was performance would go through the roof. So far it's never happened, that new card never gets the *special* update, the next new card comes out and the cycle starts all over again.

     
  12. dunx

    dunx ITX is where it's at !

    Joined:
    1 Sep 2010
    Posts:
    463
    Likes Received:
    13
    I know you guys push F@H but there are many other BOINC projects where an ATI card is far superior.
    Could you do a rundown with those ? As I have 3 x GTX 460 OC's and would like to add an ATI 5870...

    dunx
     
  13. javaman

    javaman May irritate Eyes

    Joined:
    10 May 2009
    Posts:
    3,987
    Likes Received:
    191
    Simple, the same reason anyone on here builds a £1000 watercooled super system. They love hardware! The other side of it is the amount of knowledge and fine tuning that goes into folding just to get the best out of the hardware. It also introduces problems which an everyday gaming machine doesn't always uncounter like running 4 closely spaced gpu's, which arn't designed to run 24/7. a few members have also lost someone to cancer or another condition folding is studying so in some ways this is their attempt at helping science progress to find a cure and better understanding how to treat patients. Personally I just fold for kudos as you put it, I'm skeptical if anything will come of it but am happy to try to get into the top 200 bit-tech folders. Its another achievement and folding is surprisingly addictive. If something good comes of it then it'll defo be worth it.there's also part of me feels that having hardware sitting idling when not gaming is a bigger waste than the electricity spent folding

    As for an AMD update on their client. CustomPC did ask the question and due to resources they haven't looked at the client but will in the future. They are currently busy between their standard graphics drivers, physX alternative and pushing openCL for fusion. Eventually and hopefully if fusion takes off they will turn their attention to this popular yet niche past time.
     
  14. Goty

    Goty Minimodder

    Joined:
    13 Dec 2005
    Posts:
    411
    Likes Received:
    4
    The only project I'm familiar with is MilkyWay@Home, but the results are basically the polar opposite of F@H; AMD cards lead the pack, with even a 4770 being faster than the GTX 480. The 5870 is roughly three times faster than the 480 on average in MW@H.
     
  15. Christopher N. Lew

    Christopher N. Lew Folding in memory of my father

    Joined:
    23 Apr 2009
    Posts:
    1,358
    Likes Received:
    46
    Thanks for publishing this - looks like I made the right decision to get more GTX560s :)-)
     
  16. Enzo Matrix

    Enzo Matrix What's a Dremel?

    Joined:
    12 Nov 2010
    Posts:
    10
    Likes Received:
    0
    Indeed. I get between 7K and 8K using my radeon 6950
     
  17. Hakuren

    Hakuren What's a Dremel?

    Joined:
    17 Aug 2010
    Posts:
    156
    Likes Received:
    0
    Seriously. Considering AMD cards for F@H is simply bonkers. nVidia destroys every AMD imaginable in this competition. And it is no surprise that testing above prove the point. It is client architecture fault. AMD cards are not bad for sure, but without proper client software AMD computing potential is wasted in such applications.

    And word to Bit-tech Crew. Guys you should really think about the title. The best means >the best<. The best does not allow compromises. And as such - for F@H - there is only competition between 2 GTX 590s and 4 GTX 580s for best possible solution or if someone want only one card then choice is obvious as even under-clocked GTX 590 outperforms GTX 580 by far. Like in sport. 1st is 1st and 2nd is nowhere. :)
     
  18. Blarte

    Blarte Moderate Modder

    Joined:
    15 Jul 2008
    Posts:
    1,578
    Likes Received:
    109
    I have never folded a Graphics card, but would imagine ones with soft PCB's would be best.
    Ta da ....
    pass mi coat ..
     
  19. dunx

    dunx ITX is where it's at !

    Joined:
    1 Sep 2010
    Posts:
    463
    Likes Received:
    13
    I haven't fried one. But can't recommend that you eat them...

    dunx

    P.S. Hasn't school finished yet ? ; - )
     
  20. Pete J

    Pete J Employed scum

    Joined:
    28 Sep 2009
    Posts:
    7,247
    Likes Received:
    1,805
    Yes, I'm sure that probably some of the smartest people on the planet simply can't be bothered to do the maths and would rather just waste computer time :) .

    Seriously though, the maths must be horrendous enough for them to use this method instead. Besides, they can still do maths in the meantime and if they're fortunate enough to find a solution, they'll have a shed load of data to allow comparison.
     
Tags: Add Tags

Share This Page