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WilHarris · 28th Oct 2005, 15:22

http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/2005/...perhead/1.html

PA!N · 28th Oct 2005, 16:27

I like my Logitech mx518 better because you can manuelly choose the DPI levels...but overall the razer is a great mouse (I'v played with my friends copperhead)

Tim S · 28th Oct 2005, 17:13

you can manually set the DPI levels on the Razer, on the fly, as I mentioned in the review.

You can also set the polling rate too. If you want, you can create five different profiles with different buttons, different polling rates, different DPI rates and so on.. did I mention you could adjust ALL of that on the fly too?

kiljoi · 28th Oct 2005, 17:15

You know I keep hearing all this mumbo-jumbo about all these uber-mice. Do they really make that much of a difference? I'm using an HP optical that I hi-jacked from the office, and it works well enough for me. Is there any REAL significance to these mice? Are they worth the ridiculous amount of money they charge for them?

Tim S · 28th Oct 2005, 17:16

I've not looked back since I got a Razer. I'm actually seriously considering modding this CopperHead to make it feel a lot more like the Viper, because the sensitivity is just immense.

It all depends on how you like to hold your mouse - Razer's are more of a finger mouse, where as I feel that the MS and Logitech (even more so) are very palm orientated because of their shape. I am a 'palm' desktop user, but I game with my fingers.

kiljoi · 28th Oct 2005, 17:30

I think I may be a "finger" person. I wasn't sure which when I clicked reply and started typing this, but I watched my hand as I moved the cursor to the text box, and my palm never touched the mouse. Does this mean this thing might like me?

Tim S · 28th Oct 2005, 17:42

its possible

MiNiMaL_FuSS · 28th Oct 2005, 18:15

so bigz, want to send us ur old viper then :P then i can be a convert too.

acidfire · 28th Oct 2005, 18:28

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This mouse isn't my personal cup of tea and I couldn't use it as my everyday mouse. If it was possible to pack the features that this mouse has inside the shell of the Viper, I'd have my dream mouse.

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Originally Posted by bigz

I've not looked back since I got a Razer. I'm actually seriously considering modding this CopperHead to make it feel a lot more like the Viper, because the sensitivity is just immense.

Isn't that what these forums are all about? Get to it! On the mouse, I've also got a mx518, and I love the on-the-fly adjustment, makes bf2 flying a breeze

whats the big difference in the polling rates? what exactly does it affect?

Meanmotion · 28th Oct 2005, 18:53

Can't you set mouse sensitivity in games? Why do you need it on the fly?

I've used my mates razer (can't remember which one - it's a year or so old) and I can't stand it, my fingers slip under it - it's wierd. My MX510 is super comfortable, though I hold it with my fingers and not my palm.

It's an obvious and pronounced difference between ball and optical mice but is it the same for optical to laser? I've not noticed much difference between various optical mice when used on a decent surface - though i've never had the luxury of directly comparing.

[USRF]Obiwan · 28th Oct 2005, 19:04

I wanted to buy the new logitech laser mouse for my gaming needs. And then discovered that is was only useable for righthanded persons.

So i bought a classic logitech feel mouse instead.

The razor looks to be useable for right and left handed people.t I did not see this in the review and would like to know. Tim can you comment on this?

Techno-Dann · 28th Oct 2005, 19:20

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Originally Posted by Meanmotion

Can't you set mouse sensitivity in games? Why do you need it on the fly?

On-the-fly sensitivity adjust is really nice. If I grab a sniper rifle, *click* I'm now making pixel-by-pixel changes in my aim. If I grab an assault rifle (or shotgun), *click* *click*, and now I spin around completely with a flick of the wrist. Having multiple mouse settings means that you can get very precise (headshot a guy who's three pixels wide), or be able to turn around really fast, which is great when someone starts shooting at your back.

(I love my MX518.)

Tim S · 28th Oct 2005, 19:21

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The design is ambidextrous and is a little smaller than my current Viper mouse, at around 125x63x38mm.

There you go

It's symmetrical

TheMuffinMan · 28th Oct 2005, 19:27

I've been waiting on this one, I've got a Diamondback because the logitech's didn't quite seem to fit the way i was holding it, wasn't comfortable, but I like the narrowness and height of the razer. I'll have to try to copperhead out. I usually just keep mine at a sensitivity at 9 or 10 it's pretty crazy when a friend tries to use my computer haha, tries to go the the start menu and over shoots an item like 4 times until he gets it.

webbyman · 29th Oct 2005, 00:55

ooo looks like a good mouse... but a little on the expensive side? my current mouse is worth about £4 and is around 3 years old +
i haven't even got a scroll wheel! for gaming it sux0rz :O

Shadowed_fury · 29th Oct 2005, 00:58

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Originally Posted by webbyman

i haven't even got a scroll wheel! for gaming it sux0rz :O

OMGZ, you suck! Get a new mouse!

Ohhh: 3000th Posteh! WOOT

(I have no life)

specofdust · 29th Oct 2005, 01:08

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I think I may be a "finger" person.

It's easy to say for sure. Does the bottom of your palm(the bit you'd hit someone with in the nose if you wanted to kill them) sit on the mousemat/surface or on on the mouses arse? If its on the mousemat you're a finger person, if its on the mouse you're a palm person.

Frankly I don't understand why anyone uses mice with their whole hand, you turn the sensitivity right up and you barely need to move your fingers to do anything with a mouse, you can get pricise, quick, accurate adjustments. Getting quick headshots using my whole hand with my mouse would be nigh on impossible for me. Fingers is definately the way forward, and if you don't do it already, give it a go.

Anyway, I agree with MS mice being described as palm mice, but logitech? I can't stand using my 510 with my palm, the surface just doesn't feel nice enough to do that, I'd want some sort of nice rubber grip on the back for it to be any good as a palm mouse. Its fingers all the way on the 510 for me.

The review is very intresting though, and I am strongly considering using two mice now, a logitech wireless one with zillions of buttons for desktop and app use, and a razor Copperhead with its two big proper buttons(ok it has more, but the two huge ones is what its about) for games.

webbyman · 29th Oct 2005, 01:35

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Originally Posted by Shadowed_fury

OMGZ, you suck! Get a new mouse!

Ohhh: 3000th Posteh! WOOT

(I have no life)

lol you made that quite ovious

i have a life

Shadowed_fury · 29th Oct 2005, 01:37

Bah, just get a new mouse... /me storms off!

eek · 29th Oct 2005, 03:27

Using a logitech G5 here and I rest my palm on the mouse mat... I can't imagine using it any other way unless you have really tiny hands?! There is no way I would call it a 'palm' mouse - but then as the review states, it is all fairly subjective!

The one big difference between the G5 and the Razor is that the G5 has leds on it so you know which of the 5 profiles it is set to. I find this feature v useful as I use a different profile for pretty much every different task - gaming, photoshop, browsing - as it is always nice to know what setting your on from just looking at the mouse without having to wonder what it was on to start with and then working out how many clicks away the setting you want is.

28th Oct 2005, 15:22	#1
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28th Oct 2005, 17:13	#3
Tim S Pewlius Caesar bit-tech Staff Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Ascot, Berks Posts: 18,021	you can manually set the DPI levels on the Razer, on the fly, as I mentioned in the review. You can also set the polling rate too. If you want, you can create five different profiles with different buttons, different polling rates, different DPI rates and so on.. did I mention you could adjust ALL of that on the fly too? __________________ Tim on Twitter \| Tim's Blog \| Tim's Flickr The bit-tech Blog \| bit-tech on Twitter \| Join the bit-tech & Custom PC folding team (#35947)

28th Oct 2005, 17:15	#4
kiljoi I am a computer king. Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: pants! Posts: 2,302	You know I keep hearing all this mumbo-jumbo about all these uber-mice. Do they really make that much of a difference? I'm using an HP optical that I hi-jacked from the office, and it works well enough for me. Is there any REAL significance to these mice? Are they worth the ridiculous amount of money they charge for them? __________________ I NEEED YOU AND TEH GUYS HELP ME TO GET TEH ORANGE BOX WITH WHICH I DONT KNOW I NEED TO KNOW FORM YOU

28th Oct 2005, 17:16	#5
Tim S Pewlius Caesar bit-tech Staff Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Ascot, Berks Posts: 18,021	I've not looked back since I got a Razer. I'm actually seriously considering modding this CopperHead to make it feel a lot more like the Viper, because the sensitivity is just immense. It all depends on how you like to hold your mouse - Razer's are more of a finger mouse, where as I feel that the MS and Logitech (even more so) are very palm orientated because of their shape. I am a 'palm' desktop user, but I game with my fingers. __________________ Tim on Twitter \| Tim's Blog \| Tim's Flickr The bit-tech Blog \| bit-tech on Twitter \| Join the bit-tech & Custom PC folding team (#35947)

28th Oct 2005, 17:30	#6
kiljoi I am a computer king. Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: pants! Posts: 2,302	I think I may be a "finger" person. I wasn't sure which when I clicked reply and started typing this, but I watched my hand as I moved the cursor to the text box, and my palm never touched the mouse. Does this mean this thing might like me? __________________ I NEEED YOU AND TEH GUYS HELP ME TO GET TEH ORANGE BOX WITH WHICH I DONT KNOW I NEED TO KNOW FORM YOU

28th Oct 2005, 17:42	#7
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28th Oct 2005, 18:15	#8
MiNiMaL_FuSS I Mod, Therefore I Own Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Posts: 3,070	so bigz, want to send us ur old viper then :P then i can be a convert too. __________________ -Yesterday is History, Tomorrow is a Mystery, Take the Present as a Gift-

28th Oct 2005, 18:53	#10
Meanmotion Supermodder Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Bracknell nr. Ascot Posts: 370	Can't you set mouse sensitivity in games? Why do you need it on the fly? I've used my mates razer (can't remember which one - it's a year or so old) and I can't stand it, my fingers slip under it - it's wierd. My MX510 is super comfortable, though I hold it with my fingers and not my palm. It's an obvious and pronounced difference between ball and optical mice but is it the same for optical to laser? I've not noticed much difference between various optical mice when used on a decent surface - though i've never had the luxury of directly comparing. __________________ Athlon64 X2 4400+ \|\| A8N SLI Premium \|\| 2Gb Corsair XMS Pro \|\| 2*40Gb Raptor (striped) \|\| 250GB External \|\| Radeon X1950Pro \|\| WinXP www.OutForBlood.co.uk \|\| www.4Qradio.com \|\| www.EdwardChester.co.uk

28th Oct 2005, 19:04	#11
[USRF]Obiwan Ultramodder Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,218	I wanted to buy the new logitech laser mouse for my gaming needs. And then discovered that is was only useable for righthanded persons. So i bought a classic logitech feel mouse instead. The razor looks to be useable for right and left handed people.t I did not see this in the review and would like to know. Tim can you comment on this? __________________ Mascleta: "The most accurate simulation of thunder, humans can simulate..." The answer is 42, so... whats the question again? If you know what 'Peek' and 'Poke' represents, then you are probably as old as me.

28th Oct 2005, 19:27	#14
TheMuffinMan Supermodder Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 356	I've been waiting on this one, I've got a Diamondback because the logitech's didn't quite seem to fit the way i was holding it, wasn't comfortable, but I like the narrowness and height of the razer. I'll have to try to copperhead out. I usually just keep mine at a sensitivity at 9 or 10 it's pretty crazy when a friend tries to use my computer haha, tries to go the the start menu and over shoots an item like 4 times until he gets it.

29th Oct 2005, 00:55	#15
webbyman Hax. Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Uk Posts: 2,758	ooo looks like a good mouse... but a little on the expensive side? my current mouse is worth about £4 and is around 3 years old + i haven't even got a scroll wheel! for gaming it sux0rz :O

29th Oct 2005, 01:37	#19
Shadowed_fury Natural Born Chaos Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Telford Posts: 7,133	Bah, just get a new mouse... /me storms off! __________________ Steam: kev_fury New Frag Video - Gigabyte EP43-DS3L - E8200 - XFX 4870 1GB - 4GB Kingston - - Steel Series 7.1s - Logitech G11 - Razer Diamondback 3G - 2209WA -

29th Oct 2005, 03:27	#20
eek CAMRA ***. Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: in meh own little world Posts: 1,511	Using a logitech G5 here and I rest my palm on the mouse mat... I can't imagine using it any other way unless you have really tiny hands?! There is no way I would call it a 'palm' mouse - but then as the review states, it is all fairly subjective! The one big difference between the G5 and the Razor is that the G5 has leds on it so you know which of the 5 profiles it is set to. I find this feature v useful as I use a different profile for pretty much every different task - gaming, photoshop, browsing - as it is always nice to know what setting your on from just looking at the mouse without having to wonder what it was on to start with and then working out how many clicks away the setting you want is.