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Tim S · 3rd Nov 2005, 11:56

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200..._sd11g5/1.html

Atomic · 3rd Nov 2005, 12:35

The amount of times I've wished shuttle would make an external passive PSU for normal shuttles....

Tim S · 3rd Nov 2005, 12:44

totally, that thing is a godsend

Atomic · 3rd Nov 2005, 13:27

Wouldnt be hard to do either. Just have a plate to screw into the PSU cutout with the cable socket / some circuitry (maybe) on that passes through to the ATX socket...

Lazlow · 3rd Nov 2005, 14:18

Glad you gave it a good review. I like the idea of an external PSU, and it makes you wonder why the first generation of SFFs didn't come with one. The only sound you'd worry about is that of the GPU fan, and the seeking of the HDD.

Warrior_Rocker · 3rd Nov 2005, 14:33

well i have really only a few things to say,

1) i dont really agree that the shuttle internal powersupply kicks alot of heat inside the computer, from my experience the 2 fan design is really quite nice, it pulls air inside the powersupply from the inside of the computer, then blows the air out the back of the powersupply, to outisde the case, and since the ice cooler blows air equally outside none of that heat seems to make it back inside the computer

2) im really really still surprised by shuttle in the fact that they still keep that silly honeycomb ice cooler fan grill, i mean literally and i will not exaggerate when i cut my grill out, completely with my dremel, and added a standard fan grilll to the back, and later another fan for the push-pull ice cooler fan setup i noticed a 80% drop in noise, and any owner of the prescott series of intel proccessors knows those are really hot proccessors and to be able to make a near silent computer with one inside, is a feat of its own, w/o any drastic water cooling, (see my sig with a link to the cut out of the honeycomb)

3) i was dissapointed equally in my shuttle not to long ago when it came with only 1 sata cable... im so glad i bought from newegg which takes pictures of everything, including the contents of the box, so i noticed the missing cable before i made my final purchase, it wasent so bad, but the extra cable cost me 7 USD which is kinda silly imo becuase ive never had to buy a cable of just about any sort before..., however to give shuttle some credit, they did give a pre-routed roundedish ide cable to connect to the optical drive that is neatly plugged out of the way right into the motherboard, and they did include 2 additional ide cables, a double and a single head, and a floppy ribbon

all in all, shuttle still seems to be doing what it has recently, personally ive never been a fan of the external psu, doubt i ever will be, not after spending my entire life trying to build more things inside the computer, (wireless keyboard and mouse recievers, lcd's etc....), however this shuttle is a step in the right direction, this pentium-m machine is definitly good for an htpc or other such pc, im not so sure for extreme gaming, but who knows

Kameleon · 3rd Nov 2005, 15:24

4) It's white. Oh, Shuttle Shuttle Shuttle, what were you thinking?

Bindibadgi · 3rd Nov 2005, 16:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazlow

Glad you gave it a good review. I like the idea of an external PSU, and it makes you wonder why the first generation of SFFs didn't come with one. The only sound you'd worry about is that of the GPU fan, and the seeking of the HDD.

Because it didnt exist. External PSUs of that power havent really been manufactured for long.

After using.. 7 XPCs now i cant disagree more than the internal PSUs add to the heat inside the case. If you take out the small PSU and use a standard ATX outside the case you notice a large drop in case temps. I see your point that it adds more outside, but the brick is a nice foot warmer and you've got to have a power cable anyway.

careyd · 3rd Nov 2005, 19:00

Just curious...why not test it with a single slot 7800GTX, perhaps even an OC one like the XFX?

Tim S · 3rd Nov 2005, 21:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by careyd

Just curious...why not test it with a single slot 7800GTX, perhaps even an OC one like the XFX?

They don't drop off trees, unfortunately.

Skill3d · 3rd Nov 2005, 23:03

perhaps we should try bury one 7800GTX and see if a tree appears?

(the one that buries his 7800GTX needs to give the location to me of course

)

The_Pope · 3rd Nov 2005, 23:30

We could "fertilise" it by shredding a copy of the DOOM movie and watering it in

DLoney · 4th Nov 2005, 03:44

Awesome Article!
The only thing I would ask for is a page dedicated to only media.
That would rock.

The_Pope · 4th Nov 2005, 05:24

Do you mean a 1 page photo gallery?

DLoney · 4th Nov 2005, 06:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Pope

Do you mean a 1 page photo gallery?

Ya.
Like a page dedicated to just beauty shots of the overall system, much like yall do when doing a article on a member made mod.
I know such a process would take more time, but IMO it would be worth it.
However you look at it, keep up the great job. I love reading yall’s system reviews.

TMM · 5th Nov 2005, 03:35

Nice article. One thing had me scratching my head for a while though.. until i worked it out

.

(?)Some/(?)all graphs that have times (e.g. minutes, seconds) don't work out properly. e.g. 3minutes, 59seconds should very close to 4minutes.

i.e.
http://www.bit-tech.net/content_imag...mp3-encode.png

the bar is showing 3.59 where it should be more like 3.98 (59sec/60sec = .98)

just thought i'd mention it

*goes back to drooling over shuttle*

Bindibadgi · 5th Nov 2005, 10:39

Oh yea, good point. It's in 100s not 60s. We'll have to change it to just seconds.

koola · 6th Nov 2005, 19:53

Bah, I would save up a little more and get a Apple iMac G5

Much better than a shuttle lol

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3rd Nov 2005, 14:18	#5
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3rd Nov 2005, 14:33	#6
Warrior_Rocker Holder of the sacred iron Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 923	well i have really only a few things to say, 1) i dont really agree that the shuttle internal powersupply kicks alot of heat inside the computer, from my experience the 2 fan design is really quite nice, it pulls air inside the powersupply from the inside of the computer, then blows the air out the back of the powersupply, to outisde the case, and since the ice cooler blows air equally outside none of that heat seems to make it back inside the computer 2) im really really still surprised by shuttle in the fact that they still keep that silly honeycomb ice cooler fan grill, i mean literally and i will not exaggerate when i cut my grill out, completely with my dremel, and added a standard fan grilll to the back, and later another fan for the push-pull ice cooler fan setup i noticed a 80% drop in noise, and any owner of the prescott series of intel proccessors knows those are really hot proccessors and to be able to make a near silent computer with one inside, is a feat of its own, w/o any drastic water cooling, (see my sig with a link to the cut out of the honeycomb) 3) i was dissapointed equally in my shuttle not to long ago when it came with only 1 sata cable... im so glad i bought from newegg which takes pictures of everything, including the contents of the box, so i noticed the missing cable before i made my final purchase, it wasent so bad, but the extra cable cost me 7 USD which is kinda silly imo becuase ive never had to buy a cable of just about any sort before..., however to give shuttle some credit, they did give a pre-routed roundedish ide cable to connect to the optical drive that is neatly plugged out of the way right into the motherboard, and they did include 2 additional ide cables, a double and a single head, and a floppy ribbon all in all, shuttle still seems to be doing what it has recently, personally ive never been a fan of the external psu, doubt i ever will be, not after spending my entire life trying to build more things inside the computer, (wireless keyboard and mouse recievers, lcd's etc....), however this shuttle is a step in the right direction, this pentium-m machine is definitly good for an htpc or other such pc, im not so sure for extreme gaming, but who knows __________________ ..:: Recent Projects ::.. Picture Frame PC / Adding VGA to lcd / Razr Charge Cable Internal USB WiFi / Zune TV Output / Project XodusAMP Integrated AC Inverter / Project IDEpod / Project iPod HDD Reader

3rd Nov 2005, 15:24	#7
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3rd Nov 2005, 19:00	#9
careyd Minimodder Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: minneapolis, mn, usa Posts: 22	Just curious...why not test it with a single slot 7800GTX, perhaps even an OC one like the XFX?

3rd Nov 2005, 23:03	#11
Skill3d Multimodder Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 149	perhaps we should try bury one 7800GTX and see if a tree appears? (the one that buries his 7800GTX needs to give the location to me of course)

3rd Nov 2005, 23:30	#12
The_Pope Geoff Richards Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: UK Posts: 2,089	We could "fertilise" it by shredding a copy of the DOOM movie and watering it in

4th Nov 2005, 03:44	#13
DLoney Multimodder Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The Great State of TEXAS Posts: 208	Awesome Article! The only thing I would ask for is a page dedicated to only media. That would rock.

4th Nov 2005, 05:24	#14
The_Pope Geoff Richards Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: UK Posts: 2,089	Do you mean a 1 page photo gallery?

5th Nov 2005, 03:35	#16
TMM Modder Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,228	Nice article. One thing had me scratching my head for a while though.. until i worked it out . (?)Some/(?)all graphs that have times (e.g. minutes, seconds) don't work out properly. e.g. 3minutes, 59seconds should very close to 4minutes. i.e. http://www.bit-tech.net/content_imag...mp3-encode.png the bar is showing 3.59 where it should be more like 3.98 (59sec/60sec = .98) just thought i'd mention it goes back to drooling over shuttle __________________ no, your face.

5th Nov 2005, 10:39	#17
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6th Nov 2005, 19:53	#18
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