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Tim S · 10th Jan 2006, 06:48

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...4_fx-60/1.html

Boswell · 10th Jan 2006, 06:58

{i knew it

..} its not like a killer cpu where its on top for everything but its certainly another step forward (imo) into the lead.

Pookeyhead · 10th Jan 2006, 07:05

I actually didn't sleep too well thinking about this chip!!!

I can't believe you didn't clock it!!! That's what I wanted to know!!

Still... Over £600... not too bad really.. I was expecting over £700 like when the FX57 was launched.

I was dissappointed to see the FEAR results... that's my main game at the moment (hence my absence from the CS:S server). I do plan on buying quake 4 however, and it seems to rock with that.

Do you still have the chip Tim? Can you clock it? Will it do 3GHz? Weird isn't it... once you've had a chip that does 3GHz, you can't seem to drop below that number ever again... kind of a psychological thing.

I'm getting one of these chips.

Hybr1d · 10th Jan 2006, 07:59

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Originally Posted by Pookeyhead

Still... Over £600... not too bad really...

*learns the art of pro photography*

Highland3r · 10th Jan 2006, 08:04

600 quids pretty cheap tbh, was expecting the chips to be other the 1k mark...

Resuilts arent hugely surprising, its basically an overclocked 4800 with unlocked multi's... Would be nice if you can give it a quick once over on the performance enhancement side tim, see if you cant squeeze a little more out of the chip.
Out of interest, what sort of temps are you seeing with the chip at stock? Idle/load etc..?

hitman012 · 10th Jan 2006, 08:17

I was also expecting this to be a £1k part, nice to see they've slotted it in near the existing FXs despite the obvious improvement. I guess it's cheap enough for them to produce, though.

I'd also like to know how far you managed to clock this

. Did it come with any improvement on the 4800+ cooler?

-EVRE- · 10th Jan 2006, 08:58

Just curious. The Opteron 170 is a 1mb cash per core 2.0ghz socket 939 chip. I have never seen any word of the socket 939 Opterons in the Bit-Tech news. I am running one now and love it. at $368 I'd say its a better buy than a 3800+ @ $330 usd. Good review

always good to see AMD squish intel

Mister_Tad · 10th Jan 2006, 09:02

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Originally Posted by Pookeyhead

I can't believe you didn't clock it!!! That's what I wanted to know!!

Something i noticed a distinct lack of in the presler review as well

I'd be happy to pop it under water in the expert if you don't have the time Tim

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Originally Posted by -EVRE-

Just curious. The Opteron 170 is a 1mb cash per core 2.0ghz socket 939 chip. I have never seen any word of the socket 939 Opterons in the Bit-Tech news. I am running one now and love it. at $368 I'd say its a better buy than a 3800+ @ $330 usd. Good review always good to see AMD squish intel

Dual core opterons are pretty much impossible to get hold of in the UK at the moment unfortunately.

apoogod · 10th Jan 2006, 10:05

What I want to know is, is it worth getting the FX-60 or get the 4800 or 4400?

Hamish · 10th Jan 2006, 10:45

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The dual core processors are limited by the speed of our 16-speed LG DVD-ROM drive

why did you not just set dvdshrink to create an .iso instead of burn directly to dvd?

should be a pretty awesome chip if it clocks like previous FXs tho, my x2 is running at 2.6gig but it wont go much over that

Neoki · 10th Jan 2006, 10:51

The 4400+ beats the fx60 in some of the tests. Go for that one instead as you can overclock to around 2.8 on air and is alot cheaper.

Hamish · 10th Jan 2006, 10:58

what, no it doesnt
the 4400 is identical to the fx60 except its 400mhz slower and isnt unlocked..
mine seems to max out about 2.7gig too...

Nature · 10th Jan 2006, 11:05

A good read. I'm sure the AM2 model will be a wee bit faster...

But why did you use a 7800GT in your tests?

Shadowed_fury · 10th Jan 2006, 11:05

Now, thats fast!

Da Dego · 10th Jan 2006, 13:59

At CES I was discussing with another reviewer who said that with water cooling the chip has topped over 3.4, but that is an engineering sample.

Keep in mind, this has not been confirmed by Tim, who would probably throw something at me (and not the chip, sadly) for the suggestion that he should get to work now pushing max overclock.

This review already took a bloody long time, and for good reason...lots of details, retests, etc. to make sure that you're getting fair and accurate marks with every chip on the same bios, drivers, etc.

If someone does go out and buy one to OC it, make sure you let us know how it performs!!!

Pookeyhead · 10th Jan 2006, 14:36

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Originally Posted by Da Dego

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If someone does go out and buy one to OC it, make sure you let us know how it performs!!!

As soon as I get home tonight, my FX57 goes on Ebay, then as soon as SCan get stock, I'll have one the next day, so I'll let you know.

specofdust · 10th Jan 2006, 14:39

Wow, now thats public service!

If a moderately skilled overclocker has managed 3.4 on air I'd imagine over the next few months we can look forward to phase changed 4.0Ghz FX-60's....I'm practising the jaw drop

Marquee · 10th Jan 2006, 15:02

I personally have been waiting for a refined version of the AMD 64 X2 technology. Might just get into it now. But what I am thinking is that the overclocking must suck hard with these new X2 chips. The privies flagship was 2.8Ghz. Although we are getting now two cores at 2.6Ghz I was kinda hoping for at least 2.8Ghz or aim even higher 3.0Ghz. My other question you guys is it possible to take a low end X2 chip and overclock it to 2.6Ghz. Like the 4400+. Its clocked at 2.2Ghz with 1Mb cache for each core. I really wonder if I can clock that CPU at 2.6Ghz.

Nice CPU though.

Shadowed_fury · 10th Jan 2006, 15:09

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Originally Posted by Marquee

I personally have been waiting for a refined version of the AMD 64 X2 technology. Might just get into it now. But what I am thinking is that the overclocking must suck hard with these new X2 chips. The privies flagship was 2.8Ghz. Although we are getting now two cores at 2.6Ghz I was kinda hoping for at least 2.8Ghz or aim even higher 3.0Ghz. My other question you guys is it possible to take a low end X2 chip and overclock it to 2.6Ghz. Like the 4400+. Its clocked at 2.2Ghz with 1Mb cache for each core. I really wonder if I can clock that CPU at 2.6Ghz.

Nice CPU though.

Clock rate is NOT everything.

specofdust · 10th Jan 2006, 15:15

True, but we can't tweak the architecture of a CPU or add more cache by adding a new HSF

10th Jan 2006, 06:48	#1
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10th Jan 2006, 08:04	#5
Highland3r I Mod, Therefore I Own Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Leeds UK Posts: 7,158	600 quids pretty cheap tbh, was expecting the chips to be other the 1k mark... Resuilts arent hugely surprising, its basically an overclocked 4800 with unlocked multi's... Would be nice if you can give it a quick once over on the performance enhancement side tim, see if you cant squeeze a little more out of the chip. Out of interest, what sort of temps are you seeing with the chip at stock? Idle/load etc..? __________________ Prawn or not...?

10th Jan 2006, 08:17	#6
hitman012 What is a Dremel!? Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bristol / London Posts: 4,811	I was also expecting this to be a £1k part, nice to see they've slotted it in near the existing FXs despite the obvious improvement. I guess it's cheap enough for them to produce, though. I'd also like to know how far you managed to clock this . Did it come with any improvement on the 4800+ cooler? __________________ "Nothing is more practical than a good theory" - Kurt Lewin

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-EVRE- Supermodder Join Date: May 2004 Location: Idaho U.S.A Posts: 343	Just curious. The Opteron 170 is a 1mb cash per core 2.0ghz socket 939 chip. I have never seen any word of the socket 939 Opterons in the Bit-Tech news. I am running one now and love it. at $368 I'd say its a better buy than a 3800+ @ $330 usd. Good review always good to see AMD squish intel __________________ (Phenom II 940)(Foxcon A7DA)(8gb OCZ DDR2 800 )(8800gt aka hair dryer)(Big yellow case, CPU, GPU)(Enermax Liberty 500w)(lite-on DVD-RW w/LightScribe)(Seagate 300gb sata)(Seagate 320gb x2)(WD 200gb)(Dell 3007WFP 30"LCD, 19" Samsung, Acer 1280x720 projector)

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10th Jan 2006, 10:51	#11
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Hamish I Mod, Therefore I Own Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: London Posts: 3,587	what, no it doesnt the 4400 is identical to the fx60 except its 400mhz slower and isnt unlocked.. mine seems to max out about 2.7gig too...

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10th Jan 2006, 13:59	#15
Da Dego Brett Thomas Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cleveland, OH USA Posts: 3,906	At CES I was discussing with another reviewer who said that with water cooling the chip has topped over 3.4, but that is an engineering sample. Keep in mind, this has not been confirmed by Tim, who would probably throw something at me (and not the chip, sadly) for the suggestion that he should get to work now pushing max overclock. This review already took a bloody long time, and for good reason...lots of details, retests, etc. to make sure that you're getting fair and accurate marks with every chip on the same bios, drivers, etc. If someone does go out and buy one to OC it, make sure you let us know how it performs!!! __________________ "Frankly that seems overkill. iluvtrees2 arguing with spec is the intellectual equivalent of a bunny rabbit taking on a pissed-off lion." - Nexxo

10th Jan 2006, 14:39	#17
specofdust Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Aberdeen, UK, EU Posts: 7,614	Wow, now thats public service! If a moderately skilled overclocker has managed 3.4 on air I'd imagine over the next few months we can look forward to phase changed 4.0Ghz FX-60's....I'm practising the jaw drop __________________ Like marmite, only no-one hates it Mmm bop!

10th Jan 2006, 15:02	#18
Marquee Supermodder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto Canada Posts: 404	I personally have been waiting for a refined version of the AMD 64 X2 technology. Might just get into it now. But what I am thinking is that the overclocking must suck hard with these new X2 chips. The privies flagship was 2.8Ghz. Although we are getting now two cores at 2.6Ghz I was kinda hoping for at least 2.8Ghz or aim even higher 3.0Ghz. My other question you guys is it possible to take a low end X2 chip and overclock it to 2.6Ghz. Like the 4400+. Its clocked at 2.2Ghz with 1Mb cache for each core. I really wonder if I can clock that CPU at 2.6Ghz. Nice CPU though. __________________ Project Log: Knight Rider CWC

10th Jan 2006, 15:15	#20
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