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The_Pope · 24th Jan 2006, 15:50

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...ossfire/1.html

crayfish · 24th Jan 2006, 16:12

First reply

Looks like ATi pwnage from here on in!

eek · 24th Jan 2006, 16:13

wow.

I want I want I want.

Shame it'll clear by entire student loan getting two of those for crossfire - not to mention the fact that I'll need a new motherboard!! Damn!! I know what I'm now saving for

[USRF]Obiwan · 24th Jan 2006, 16:17

hmmz.. i rather wait for the first dx10 card...

thetraindriver · 24th Jan 2006, 16:18

These gonna be available in AGP?... or maybe PCI?

rupbert · 24th Jan 2006, 16:23

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Originally Posted by [USRF]Obiwan

hmmz.. i rather wait for the first dx10 card...

That will be quite some wait.

Leeum · 24th Jan 2006, 16:23

Looks like ATi are back in the game!

Hamish · 24th Jan 2006, 16:25

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At a first glance, you would be right to think that the Radeon X1900XTX reference card is physically the same as the Radeon X1800XT reference card.

does this mean the HSF fittings are the same between them? i hope so

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The MSRP is US$549 for the 512MB X1900 XT and US$649 X1900 XTX. In the UK, the pricing is £349 and £399 respectively, but this is excluding VAT. By the time you add Gordon Brown's 17.5% you're looking at £411.19 and £469.94.

scan have the XT for £328+vat

1 more thing, is there going to be an x1900xl? if so how's it gonig to differ, just lower clocks again or less pixel wotsits

Tim S · 24th Jan 2006, 16:28

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Originally Posted by Hamish

does this mean the HSF fittings are the same between them? i hope so

yes, they're the same

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scan have the XT for £328+vat

1 more thing, is there going to be an x1900xl? if so how's it gonig to differ, just lower clocks again or less pixel wotsits

I don't think so, there'll be an All-In-Wonder with lower clocks and a single slot cooler though.

rupbert · 24th Jan 2006, 16:33

Bigz is there any indication as to when the 7900 series will be released? I think at CEBIT it claimed sometime around March?

Tim S · 24th Jan 2006, 16:33

I'd think we'll see it before CeBit. However, they've got to improve the image quality if they're going to compete through and through.

rupbert · 24th Jan 2006, 16:35

I assume ATIs release of the x1900 has forced Nvidia to bring the release forward?

Would be interesting to see x1900 vx 7900...

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However, they've got to improve the image quality if they're going to compete through and through.

Do you mean in terms of actual noticable image fidelity, or framerate performance (I assume you are talking specfically about AA?)

LoneArchon · 24th Jan 2006, 16:35

Isn't the new nvidia card coming out very soon G71 i think it was. The X1900 family looks nice and will hopefully drive prices of the older models down and then maybe i can get a new graphic card without spendin a arm and a leg.

hitman012 · 24th Jan 2006, 16:37

Good review, guys

I wondered when R520 was launched whether the completely new architecture, once matured, would come back to bite NV in the ass - apparently it has, because they will have to drastically increase clock speeds to compete here. I want to see a totally new design from the green corner tbh.

It is nice to see ATi claiming back the market because, of course, it means NVIDIA have to come up with something faster... only 5 months after I bought my 256MB GTX, though

LoneArchon: G71 is the 7900 card.

Hamish · 24th Jan 2006, 16:38

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Originally Posted by bigz

yes, they're the same

woot can keep my wb then

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Originally Posted by bigz

I don't think so, there'll be an All-In-Wonder with lower clocks and a single slot cooler though.

noes

£390 is a bit on the high side, i was hoping for an xl type one i could douse in water and clock the crap out of

not interesed in AiW, be the same/more expensive and have no need for tv tuner stuff

might just have to grab one of those XTs off scan

anyone want to lend me £400?

Tim S · 24th Jan 2006, 16:45

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Originally Posted by rupbert

I assume ATIs release of the x1900 has forced Nvidia to bring the release forward?

Would be interesting to see x1900 vx 7900...

We'll have that on the day that the card is released

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Do you mean in terms of actual noticable image fidelity, or framerate performance (I assume you are talking specfically about AA?)

Nope, we're talking about the texture filtering - ATI's texture filtering and anisotropic filtering quality is in another league and with X1900 series, it's actually useable.

Check on this page and the page after it covers anisotropic filtering quality - the main focus should be the 'highest' setting: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...x1800xl/5.html

ATI: http://www.bit-tech.net/content_imag...0xl-16hqaf.jpg

NVIDIA: http://www.bit-tech.net/content_imag...0gt-16afhq.jpg

look at the ground

Aphex_ · 24th Jan 2006, 17:28

i don't suppouse there is any word on the head room for overclocking, assumedly if the xtx uses the same hsf then the xt should be able to be pushed up towards its speeds, any word on the ram [chip codes] as well?

i'm sure ppl with a watercooling system are drooling at this as if the card doesn't use high gear on the stock hsf then there must be some room left.

are any aib's likely to sel pre-overclocked btw?

[sinz] · 24th Jan 2006, 17:58

I'm a bit confused. For a crossfire setup, one would use a regular X1900XTX and then for the second card you'd use the X1900 CrossFire edition? e.g. you don't use two of the same card in a Crossfire configuration?

Tim S · 24th Jan 2006, 18:00

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Originally Posted by Aphex_

i don't suppouse there is any word on the head room for overclocking, assumedly if the xtx uses the same hsf then the xt should be able to be pushed up towards its speeds, any word on the ram [chip codes] as well?

I forgot to add that in

The Radeon X1900XTX has 1.1ns DRAMs (1800MHz), while the X1900 CrossFire Edition has 1.2ns DRAMs (1650MHz)

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i'm sure ppl with a watercooling system are drooling at this as if the card doesn't use high gear on the stock hsf then there must be some room left.

are any aib's likely to sel pre-overclocked btw?

I'd estimate that there will be pre-overclocked cards soon.

Tim S · 24th Jan 2006, 18:04

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Originally Posted by [sinz]

I'm a bit confused. For a crossfire setup, one would use a regular X1900XTX and then for the second card you'd use the X1900 CrossFire edition? e.g. you don't use two of the same card in a Crossfire configuration?

For high-end CrossFire setups (X1800 and X1900), you need an X1x00 CrossFire Edition card and a standard CrossFire ready Radeon X1x00-series card. In simple terms, the CrossFire Edition card does some clever stuff and makes the cards work together.

For Radeon X1600/X1300, you can use two of the same cards and don't need a CrossFire Edition card.

NVIDIA's SLI technology uses cards with the same chipsets (bios versions/board manufacturers and clock speeds can differ). For example, you can put two 7800 GTX 256 cards together, but not a 7800 GTX 256 and a 7800 GTX 512.

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hitman012 What is a Dremel!? Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bristol / London Posts: 4,811	Good review, guys I wondered when R520 was launched whether the completely new architecture, once matured, would come back to bite NV in the ass - apparently it has, because they will have to drastically increase clock speeds to compete here. I want to see a totally new design from the green corner tbh. It is nice to see ATi claiming back the market because, of course, it means NVIDIA have to come up with something faster... only 5 months after I bought my 256MB GTX, though LoneArchon: G71 is the 7900 card. __________________ "Nothing is more practical than a good theory" - Kurt Lewin

24th Jan 2006, 16:12	#2
crayfish Amazing scenes! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: UK Posts: 597	First reply Looks like ATi pwnage from here on in!

24th Jan 2006, 16:13	#3
eek CAMRA ***. Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: in meh own little world Posts: 1,512	wow. I want I want I want. Shame it'll clear by entire student loan getting two of those for crossfire - not to mention the fact that I'll need a new motherboard!! Damn!! I know what I'm now saving for

24th Jan 2006, 16:18	#5
thetraindriver What's a Dremel? Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bournemouth, UK Posts: 6	These gonna be available in AGP?... or maybe PCI?

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Leeum Mod Master Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,487	Looks like ATi are back in the game!

24th Jan 2006, 16:33	#10
rupbert Hypermodder Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 799	Bigz is there any indication as to when the 7900 series will be released? I think at CEBIT it claimed sometime around March?

24th Jan 2006, 17:28	#17
Aphex_ What's a Dremel? Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 19	i don't suppouse there is any word on the head room for overclocking, assumedly if the xtx uses the same hsf then the xt should be able to be pushed up towards its speeds, any word on the ram [chip codes] as well? i'm sure ppl with a watercooling system are drooling at this as if the card doesn't use high gear on the stock hsf then there must be some room left. are any aib's likely to sel pre-overclocked btw?

24th Jan 2006, 17:58	#18
[sinz] 69 Dude!! Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 69	I'm a bit confused. For a crossfire setup, one would use a regular X1900XTX and then for the second card you'd use the X1900 CrossFire edition? e.g. you don't use two of the same card in a Crossfire configuration?