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How CRT and LCD monitors work
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Nice article, very very helpful, now take a CRT apart
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Oled is very promising.
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Wheres the articles on the looking ahead stuff. Im intrested in seeing this coffee table and desksize display!
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why waste a perfectly good 17" LCD monitor? or was it already broken?
because if it was a perfectly good 17" monitor it would have been a waste, a broken 15" or a broken 17" would seem much less "wasteful" anyways, I hope it was a broken 17" LCD |
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What is a Dremel!?
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Good article, guys; well-written and explanatory. I've read a lot about how they work but never actually seen a proper disassembly before - very interesting stuff
P.S: It's Pythagoras for the CRT pixel calculations and there's a typo in the Future section: "Arguably, there is not much of a future a all for CRT technology" Quote:
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Good read, nice to see another dead LCD in the world too
![]() I am curious though, when are we likely to see some sort of LED or OLED panel catch up with a CRT in terms of overall image quality? This isn't me being fanboyish(oh ok, maybe a little, but humour me), I'm just curious when I'll actually be able to dump the trinitron in favour of something better. Will it happen with LCD, or, is it likely to happen only once one of the new tech's like SED or OLED gets fully developed as the primary display technology of the world? |
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Nice article.
Personally, I couldn't notice any colour difference between good 6bit panels (TN panels) and 8bit panels. What I did notice though, was the massive difference in response time between the monitors with 6bit and 8bit panels, when I was choosing a new monitor in February last year (when the first 8ms monitors came out). Gaming on a monitor with ghosting was horrible, and I had to ditch the monitor because of it (1st-gen Dell 1905FP - 20ms, 8bit panel). I quickly replaced it with a Benq FP937S+ (8ms, DVI, 6bit TN panel) and I haven't looked back since! ![]() Now that pretty much all panels are fast (i.e. under 12ms), ghosting is no longer an issue.
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Bit got Digged http://digg.com/hardware/LCD_monitor...lay_technology
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Good article, although you could have explained the difference between FPS and refresh rate, which a lot of people seem to get confused.
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Interesting article.
However, I'm still confused by the dot pitch conversions. For example, why a DP of 1 converts to 0.87 horizontal dot gap. Similarly, shouldn't the horizontal pixels be calculated by dividing, not multiplying, ie 401mm horizontal viewable screen area /divided/ by 0.228 is 1758? Also, in the section starting with the heading LCD, the third paragraph introduces TFT with no explanation as to what TFTs are (Thin Film Transisters? But what are they?): LCD Flat panel monitors... LCD panels are fairly simple to understand... The actual image on a TFT is made up of a matrix of pixels. Unlike with CRTs... Are LCD and TFT interchangeably useable with reference to displays? How about an article about Plasma Displays? |
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By definition, an equilateral triangle is composed of three 60° angles. If you assume that the dot pitch is 1, as Wil has, then the horizontal component of any of these three angles will be 1(sin 60), which comes in at around 0.867. Now we've got this ratio, you can multiply the actual dot pitch (0.26mm) by 0.87 to get the horizontal dot pitch. He could just as easily have done 0.26(sin 60°). Quote:
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Instead of this method, the pixels were arranged in a grid; a cell is activated by applying a voltage to the appropriate row and column. This used to be done by applying a negative voltage to one and a positive voltage to the other, which resulted in the cross-point of the two having a high PD across it, meaning it switched. However, technology has moved on now to using transistors positioned on glass (hence TFT), which is very complicated but allows for finer image quality and better response time. Quote:
Hope this clears it up for you
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Good article, Im still not giving up my CRT yet.
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Great article, Wil - I had forgotten some of that stuff
![]() Honestly, the only way to get good image quality is for each pixel to be its own light source; as such, CRTs for the win in that regard, but OLEDs for the best of both worlds. I wonder how well that phosphor CRT style tech works in practice though...
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Fantastic read, And i might be willing to take my CRT apart in about a year. That or i go hunting for one out of a skip.
Didnt i see an artical on Bit-Tech about a LCD with lots of light sources? There was a test with a single white rectangle in the middle of the screen and it was part of a HDR Test/ bit-tech explination.
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