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WilHarris · 23rd May 2006, 11:27

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...x2_5000/1.html

kingabs · 23rd May 2006, 11:44

cant wait to get my hands on the new AM2 rig it will be good benchmarking

Neoki · 23rd May 2006, 11:44

I will wait until the next bunch of AMD's or conroe

Cthippo · 23rd May 2006, 12:12

I notice nothing was said about AM2 Opterons. Is AMD staying witrh s940 for their server line? Personally, I'm very happy with my dual 940 Mobo, but I hope AM2 will drive down the price on late model dual core Opteron 2xx's

TheoGeo · 23rd May 2006, 12:35

interesting article, i agree with waiting untill conroe is released though. that should make things very interesting

I think i found a mistake on the last page.

Quote:

On AMD, those processors cost £212 and £452 - so you're paying a premium for the new socket and the DDR2 controller.

shouldn't that say "On AM2"?

Lazlow · 23rd May 2006, 12:37

Looks like AM2 it is then for my next rig. I was all set for 939, as they have dropped £20 in the last few weeks already.

Krikkit · 23rd May 2006, 12:54

It's looking like a fairly reasonable perf. jump to AM2 then, which is good news for AMD, but will it be enough to oust a Conroe rig? We've all (probably) seen the thread down in Hardware from XS, a Conroe getting a 10-second superpi, but can it hold up when the cache doesn't cover the whole thread? Only time will tell.

[edit] It's also worth noting that a 3000+ will be on AM2.

Lo Pan · 23rd May 2006, 13:30

I think Conroe is going to die to this new socket. The Core Duo "pre-Conroe" chips only beat AM2 when overclocked...and this is the first core that came out as well. If AMD also moved to higher clock speeds like they announced....I'm calling AMD for now.

Kaboom22 · 23rd May 2006, 13:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cthippo

I notice nothing was said about AM2 Opterons. Is AMD staying witrh s940 for their server line? Personally, I'm very happy with my dual 940 Mobo, but I hope AM2 will drive down the price on late model dual core Opteron 2xx's

QFT, i was also hopeing for some information on opterons for the same reason (same board

)

perplekks45 · 23rd May 2006, 14:04

Well... so this didn't impress me much. It's what I thought AMD will bring us: The best non-oc chip on the market at the day it's launched. Conroe might have a chance to beat AMD's CPUs but actually as an AMD fan boy I don't really think/hope.
What really sucks is the fact that all single-cores are 512kb only.
Well, at the time I'm able to get my hands on AM2 there won't be any single core CPUs on the market anymore.

MiNiMaL_FuSS · 23rd May 2006, 14:21

Are we expecting much of a price drop om 939 when AM2 establishes itself?

Morpheon · 23rd May 2006, 14:27

ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz I am practically an AMD fanboy but this was just as boring as it gets....but I am quietly happy because now I don't feel compelled to upgrade my 6 month old X2 @ 2.8

MrABC · 23rd May 2006, 14:46

From the benchmarks i've seen of conroe, I don't think AM2 will beat it purely because conroe is far more efficient.
AMD did release some details about their next major core change (the K8L) but it won't come until they move to 65nm, which will be by end of this year (makes sense I suppose).
As for the AM2 Opterons, they will actually be on a new socket, Socket F. I don't know if AM2 or F are pin-compatible but I will guess that they won't be.

Drexial · 23rd May 2006, 15:26

Socket F is only for the 2xx Opterons, just like they are on 940 pin now. they will be on a 1207 pin socket F

the 1xx opterons will be available onthe AM2 socket

then for the first time, AMDs mobile processors will be on a different socet, which means no more just dropping a mobile processor into your motherboard and overclocking the crap out of it. the socket S1 will have 638 pins for the turion X2, which will as well suport DDR2. havent heard any news on it since it was anounced, so i dont know about desktop boards comming with it.

bubsterboo · 23rd May 2006, 15:43

Hopping to see a price drop with the 939 amd models

eddtox · 23rd May 2006, 17:02

Looks like waiting till 2007 to upgrade is the smartest move. Hopefully by then both the Intel and the AMD cores will be fully launched and tested against each other. I'm not a fan either way- i'll get the best performer/overclocker in my price range.

-ed out

Da Dego · 23rd May 2006, 17:25

As many have said here, I think I'll hold out til the final figures come in on the conroe and the next gen AM2s. I don't see enough here to pull me from my X2 4200+.

IanW · 23rd May 2006, 18:18

I think I'll wait a while for AM2, especially after reading this.

Cobalt · 23rd May 2006, 18:51

That was also mentioned in this article and its not too bad if you OC anyway.

Socket F is LGA which should be interesting to see how AMD does it but its not of much importance to me.

mikeuk2004 · 23rd May 2006, 19:35

Wondered how long it be before bit tech did a review, while me eyes glared at the images on overlockers. Waited ages :P

Nice one guys

23rd May 2006, 11:27	#1
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23rd May 2006, 12:12	#4
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23rd May 2006, 12:54	#7
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23rd May 2006, 14:04	#10
perplekks45 BSc... finally Join Date: May 2004 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,353	Well... so this didn't impress me much. It's what I thought AMD will bring us: The best non-oc chip on the market at the day it's launched. Conroe might have a chance to beat AMD's CPUs but actually as an AMD fan boy I don't really think/hope. What really sucks is the fact that all single-cores are 512kb only. Well, at the time I'm able to get my hands on AM2 there won't be any single core CPUs on the market anymore. __________________ "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far." Blame it on Cheaps! [now a social group]

23rd May 2006, 11:44	#2
kingabs Supermodder Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: uk Posts: 343	cant wait to get my hands on the new AM2 rig it will be good benchmarking

23rd May 2006, 11:44	#3
Neoki Hypermodder Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lincoln Posts: 869	I will wait until the next bunch of AMD's or conroe

23rd May 2006, 13:30	#8
Lo Pan Minimodder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hell Posts: 30	I think Conroe is going to die to this new socket. The Core Duo "pre-Conroe" chips only beat AM2 when overclocked...and this is the first core that came out as well. If AMD also moved to higher clock speeds like they announced....I'm calling AMD for now.

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23rd May 2006, 14:27	#12
Morpheon Multimodder Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Macon, GA USA Posts: 107	ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz I am practically an AMD fanboy but this was just as boring as it gets....but I am quietly happy because now I don't feel compelled to upgrade my 6 month old X2 @ 2.8 __________________ We were all n00bs once...but its those that listen that seperates us from the rest. My Rig! DFI-D Sli (OCZ Tony Bios) \| 3800X2 2.8 (285*10) @ 1.58Vcore OCZ 4000 Plat 2GB (2.5-4-4-8) 1T \| DangerDen TDX (nozzle 4)CPU / Maze 4 GPU / DD5 Pump ATi X1900XTX @ 780/850 \| Antec True Blue 480W \| 74GB Raptor (System) 750GB Segate (Storage)

23rd May 2006, 14:46	#13
MrABC Multimodder Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 159	From the benchmarks i've seen of conroe, I don't think AM2 will beat it purely because conroe is far more efficient. AMD did release some details about their next major core change (the K8L) but it won't come until they move to 65nm, which will be by end of this year (makes sense I suppose). As for the AM2 Opterons, they will actually be on a new socket, Socket F. I don't know if AM2 or F are pin-compatible but I will guess that they won't be.

23rd May 2006, 15:26	#14
Drexial Supermodder Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 297	Socket F is only for the 2xx Opterons, just like they are on 940 pin now. they will be on a 1207 pin socket F the 1xx opterons will be available onthe AM2 socket then for the first time, AMDs mobile processors will be on a different socet, which means no more just dropping a mobile processor into your motherboard and overclocking the crap out of it. the socket S1 will have 638 pins for the turion X2, which will as well suport DDR2. havent heard any news on it since it was anounced, so i dont know about desktop boards comming with it.

23rd May 2006, 15:43	#15
bubsterboo Hypermodder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 781	Hopping to see a price drop with the 939 amd models

23rd May 2006, 17:02	#16
eddtox Supermodder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Medway Posts: 345	Looks like waiting till 2007 to upgrade is the smartest move. Hopefully by then both the Intel and the AMD cores will be fully launched and tested against each other. I'm not a fan either way- i'll get the best performer/overclocker in my price range. -ed out

23rd May 2006, 17:25	#17
Da Dego Brett Thomas Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cleveland, OH USA Posts: 3,906	As many have said here, I think I'll hold out til the final figures come in on the conroe and the next gen AM2s. I don't see enough here to pull me from my X2 4200+. __________________ "Frankly that seems overkill. iluvtrees2 arguing with spec is the intellectual equivalent of a bunny rabbit taking on a pissed-off lion." - Nexxo

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23rd May 2006, 18:51	#19
Cobalt Multimodder Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Surrey, UK Posts: 248	That was also mentioned in this article and its not too bad if you OC anyway. Socket F is LGA which should be interesting to see how AMD does it but its not of much importance to me.

23rd May 2006, 19:35	#20
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