Intel Conroe Performance Preview - bit-tech.net Forums

WilHarris · 4th Jun 2006, 16:36

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...preview/1.html

Kipman725 · 4th Jun 2006, 16:40

Impresive games performance. I want to see a test system not built buy intell though, they could have done lots of subtle things like decreasing image quality to get a greater lead in the benchmarks.

lepre · 4th Jun 2006, 17:11

let's wait for the cpus on the market, anyway looks really promising!

Tim S · 4th Jun 2006, 17:13

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Originally Posted by Kipman725

Impresive games performance. I want to see a test system not built buy intell though, they could have done lots of subtle things like decreasing image quality to get a greater lead in the benchmarks.

All benchmark settings were controlled by us - I made sure that the Catalyst driver settings were at the default setting (High Quality), and I used included timedemos/stress tests in games.

FEAR has it's own benchmark, as does Lost Coast and the three Far Cry demos used are from Ubisoft.

I think that Intel has too much to lose to 'lie' or 'fix' these benchmarks. They configured an Athlon 64 FX-60 at 2.8GHz for us, but I declined the opportunity to run comparison numbers on it. This is because I wanted to include some of our own independently-run benchmarks, rather than running benchmarks on an Intel-configured Athlon 64 FX machine.

atanum141 · 4th Jun 2006, 17:38

get and temp reading's?

liquid_gen · 4th Jun 2006, 17:48

Good gaming performance but who's gonna play a game at such low detail? Also, games might start becoming multithreaded which conroe seems to suck at. And i don't trust intel to setup their own system.

lepre · 4th Jun 2006, 17:49

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Originally Posted by atanum141

get and temp reading's?

on hwupdrade.it (italian website) who were at the conference too there's a photo of the BIOS saying 51°C for the cpu and 31°C ambient temperature.
anyway they say that the cooler never get as hot as with p4 or pd.

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Originally Posted by liquid_gen

Good gaming performance but who's gonna play a game at such low detail?

hmmm.......me?

axscpu · 4th Jun 2006, 17:59

All I can say is tha I want one

no truly I need to see normal benchmark, a box not setup up by intel, although it looks promising, it almost makes me feel like the age of the p3/athlon war, that was hot and cheap

customh · 4th Jun 2006, 18:16

All i ahve to say is uh oh for amd, they better stick it in gear and hope to whatever that am2's fsb of 1000mhz and proc's at 2.8 ghz help em out...

careyd · 4th Jun 2006, 18:28

Well, as someone who is 10 months into his AMD X2 4400+/2GB RAM/7800GTX OC (490mhz/256MB)/500GB RAID0 Machine, I'm thinking about an upgrade this fall. I'm wondering what will be the next best GPU to pair with it (and FYI I'm not an SLI/Crossfire type--just want the best single-card GPU that is reasonably affordable). Those numbers are looking darned impressive.

Since by day I need to do a lot of MPEG-2 and H.264 video encoding on the machine for my video business, as well as some 3D rendering in C4D, I'm the type that needs all the performance I can muster. The gaming--while important--only gets done when work is complete. Can't wait for self-built systems from shipping components to get benched. That will tell the more complete story. Would love to see deeper chart comparisons against the X2 family on the same benchmarks as well.

Da Dego · 4th Jun 2006, 18:32

Wow...

I want one.

customh · 4th Jun 2006, 18:32

Agreed on more benchmarks against the X2's but if intel partnered it with an ATI Conroe must like ATI, so thats what id say for that. But liek you said, more differentiated benchmarks would be nice.

olly_lewis · 4th Jun 2006, 19:06

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Originally Posted by Da Dego

Wow...

I want one.

So do I, but i doubt my bank account will allow at the moment...

Great test results and the benchmarks were impressive, covered all possibe taks and game settings, another great and thourgh review from bit-tech!

Fr4nk · 4th Jun 2006, 19:19

Holy Sh!t, conroe just got a whole lot more appealling but the question must be asked; Since Conroe uses shared cache, is that why it preformed worse in the Encryption & Decryption tests ? Or is it just the lack in clock speed? But at the same time this is unbelivable when think about it, a 2.6ghz cpu completly thrashes a near 4Ghz CPU. Lets see intel explain that to Joe average

.

None the less, GIMME GIMME GIMME!

-Fr4nk

eddtox · 4th Jun 2006, 19:32

Wow. It's looking interesting. Intel & ATi vs AMD & nVidia. I'm stil going to wait at least until Christmas to update my (prehistoric) rig. By then the battle should heat up, hopefully leading to some bargains.

-ed out

webchimp · 4th Jun 2006, 19:37

So will Conroe fit in existing LGA775 boards like the ASUS P5WDG2-WS or P5WD2-E Premium?

Ramble · 4th Jun 2006, 19:44

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Originally Posted by webchimp

So will Conroe fit in existing LGA775 boards like the ASUS P5WDG2-WS or P5WD2-E Premium?

Only certain ones with a compatible northbridge, or something like that.

hitman012 · 4th Jun 2006, 19:59

Impressive, that's for sure. I'd be interested to see how that model stacked up directly against, say, an X2 4400+ rather than a NetBurst-class chip - I don't think the differences will be that large in the encoding/PCMark sections... gaming does seem to be one area where Intel are really leaping ahead, though.

Firehed · 4th Jun 2006, 20:22

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Originally Posted by Ramble

Only certain ones with a compatible northbridge, or something like that.

That's the one thing I hate about Intel's line...CPU upgrade very often means mobo upgrade too.

Still... for that kind of performance, I'd say it's probably worth it. They just need a chart of what chips work with which chipsets...

dainbrain · 4th Jun 2006, 20:35

I like the gaming performance, but the Multi-Threading results are extremely dissapointing. I'm a game developer and I use 3dsmax, Maya, and Photoshop all day long and I like to have them all running at once. That, along with other proprietary tools, and switching into full-screen tests, I need as much Multi-Tasking as I can get. I've been awaiting these Conroe tests hoping that they would IMPROVE multi-threading, not slap it in the face with a large, wet, trout.

What good are games if you don't have a decent system to develop them on? Does anyone have any news on the pricing? Hopefully this will be the basic "home-user" CPU with a much lower price-point, and Intel will develop a new CPU that developers can actually use.

On the other hand, with these numbers, I'm definately going to drop on of these babies into a gaming-only rig as soon as it hits the shelves.

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liquid_gen Supermodder Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 287	Good gaming performance but who's gonna play a game at such low detail? Also, games might start becoming multithreaded which conroe seems to suck at. And i don't trust intel to setup their own system.

4th Jun 2006, 18:16	#9
customh conflagration. Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 2,590	All i ahve to say is uh oh for amd, they better stick it in gear and hope to whatever that am2's fsb of 1000mhz and proc's at 2.8 ghz help em out...

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careyd Minimodder Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: minneapolis, mn, usa Posts: 22	Well, as someone who is 10 months into his AMD X2 4400+/2GB RAM/7800GTX OC (490mhz/256MB)/500GB RAID0 Machine, I'm thinking about an upgrade this fall. I'm wondering what will be the next best GPU to pair with it (and FYI I'm not an SLI/Crossfire type--just want the best single-card GPU that is reasonably affordable). Those numbers are looking darned impressive. Since by day I need to do a lot of MPEG-2 and H.264 video encoding on the machine for my video business, as well as some 3D rendering in C4D, I'm the type that needs all the performance I can muster. The gaming--while important--only gets done when work is complete. Can't wait for self-built systems from shipping components to get benched. That will tell the more complete story. Would love to see deeper chart comparisons against the X2 family on the same benchmarks as well.

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Fr4nk Tyrannosaurus Alan ! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Uk, Essex Posts: 2,367	Holy Sh!t, conroe just got a whole lot more appealling but the question must be asked; Since Conroe uses shared cache, is that why it preformed worse in the Encryption & Decryption tests ? Or is it just the lack in clock speed? But at the same time this is unbelivable when think about it, a 2.6ghz cpu completly thrashes a near 4Ghz CPU. Lets see intel explain that to Joe average . None the less, GIMME GIMME GIMME! -Fr4nk __________________ {Macbook Pro + Dell 2407 WFP - Canon 3000V + Canon 350D + BG-E3 + Sigma 10-20mm + 50mm f1.8 + kit 28-90mm EF - Rolleiflex 2.8 TLR} *Flickr ~Flickriver ^ My Behance Art Folio

4th Jun 2006, 19:32	#15
eddtox Supermodder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Medway Posts: 345	Wow. It's looking interesting. Intel & ATi vs AMD & nVidia. I'm stil going to wait at least until Christmas to update my (prehistoric) rig. By then the battle should heat up, hopefully leading to some bargains. -ed out

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4th Jun 2006, 19:59	#18
hitman012 What is a Dremel!? Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bristol / London Posts: 4,811	Impressive, that's for sure. I'd be interested to see how that model stacked up directly against, say, an X2 4400+ rather than a NetBurst-class chip - I don't think the differences will be that large in the encoding/PCMark sections... gaming does seem to be one area where Intel are really leaping ahead, though. __________________ "Nothing is more practical than a good theory" - Kurt Lewin

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dainbrain What's a Dremel? Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1	I like the gaming performance, but the Multi-Threading results are extremely dissapointing. I'm a game developer and I use 3dsmax, Maya, and Photoshop all day long and I like to have them all running at once. That, along with other proprietary tools, and switching into full-screen tests, I need as much Multi-Tasking as I can get. I've been awaiting these Conroe tests hoping that they would IMPROVE multi-threading, not slap it in the face with a large, wet, trout. What good are games if you don't have a decent system to develop them on? Does anyone have any news on the pricing? Hopefully this will be the basic "home-user" CPU with a much lower price-point, and Intel will develop a new CPU that developers can actually use. On the other hand, with these numbers, I'm definately going to drop on of these babies into a gaming-only rig as soon as it hits the shelves.