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Tim S · 14th Jun 2006, 14:46

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...e590sli/1.html

Lazlow · 14th Jun 2006, 15:53

Apart from the close proximity of the memory slots/cpu, it looks pretty cool. Did the nvidia reference have them so close?

Tim S · 14th Jun 2006, 15:54

It basically is the NV reference design.

RotoSequence · 14th Jun 2006, 16:33

Swanky. Id use it in a mod simply because its all black. We need more motherboards like this; simple, unobtrusive, and good performers.

eddtox · 14th Jun 2006, 17:55

Absolutely agree. This board is looking pretty awesome. If Foxconn were willing to bring out a revision to fix these *minor* glitches this could prove to be a very popular board. I would consider getting it even if they didn't. One thing though, would the close proximity of the DIMMs to the CPU be a problem for watercooling?

-ed out

Tim S · 14th Jun 2006, 18:42

I don't think it will be much of a problem with watercooling, providing the block doesn't go too far outside the size of the AM2 mounting system.

olly_lewis · 14th Jun 2006, 18:51

Yer i was wondering that bigz, watercooling should be fine, but large fans such as the Asus StarIce 4 in 1 CPU cooler or the Gigabyte GH PCU31-SD 3D, you could have problems for these large copper heat sink fans, because of the width of the copper surround... And then there are the large fanless heatsink, basically a huge block of aluminum, that could cause you problems...

sl1xx · 14th Jun 2006, 20:44

I would proble buy this mobo if it had a passive mobo cooler and the ram slot's were set as the dfi mobo but arr well, ill wait for review on the asus m2n32-sli deluxe layout looks sweet just hope performance wise its good.

all in all good effort foxconn :P

Kipman725 · 14th Jun 2006, 20:47

One question, on some of the benchmarks the "SLI" memory has tightend the timings. For a direct comparision shouldent the other systems be run with the same tightened timings?

Veles · 14th Jun 2006, 21:07

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Originally Posted by RotoSequence

Swanky. Id use it in a mod simply because its all black. We need more motherboards like this; simple, unobtrusive, and good performers.

Agreed, in todays market a nice coloured PCB is always a plus. You don't want some horrible green thing looking out at you through a case window.

I also like the fact it comes with rounded cables, it annoys the hell out of me to have to buy more cables because the mobo comes with horrible flat ones.

Pookeyhead · 14th Jun 2006, 21:33

Would look nice in my rig... all you'd see is my water pipes! Cool.

That CPU placement is not the best piece of design I've seen. It shouldn't be a problem with most watercooling, but anything other than a stock HSF may be a problem.

Not happy with that 12v connector either. The beauty of having that, and the ATX almost next to each other is that both big fat power cables can be tied together, and it's easier to tidy the wiring. Having two seperate power cables going to the board is messy. It's bad enough trying to hide the ATX and 12v cables when they'r lashed together, but when they're on opposite sides of the board there's not a great deal you can do about that.

Not the most impressive HT speeds either.

Looks a nice board, but the above would bother me too much I think.

Good review tho

Tulatin · 15th Jun 2006, 01:22

Looks good, and i'm glad Nvidia's ref is a nice board. What i do wish is that more manufacturers did the DFI thing, and put the 24 and 8 pins within MM of each other...

Tim S · 15th Jun 2006, 08:31

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Originally Posted by Kipman725

One question, on some of the benchmarks the "SLI" memory has tightend the timings. For a direct comparision shouldent the other systems be run with the same tightened timings?

SLI Memory is a feature of the board. It increases Memory bus speeds but loosens the timings, however the massive increase in speed increases bandwidth and performance.

yahooadam · 15th Jun 2006, 08:58

looks pretty cool to me

hopefully we can get some really tight timing memory for the NF5 boards

Im very interesting in the packet scheduling technology - is bit tech going to evaluate this ? (game and bittorent maybe ?)

Tim S · 15th Jun 2006, 09:27

It only works if you're transferring data out... downloads are not affected (bit-torrent doesn't work - we tested it in the office before Computex). It's more for file sharing at LAN Parties

koola · 15th Jun 2006, 20:31

I don't like it at all tbh. Foxconn should of rearanged the layout to provide a bit more space around the cpu as mentioned in the review. This just shows that Foxconn can't design motherboards very well. In fact, I would go as far to say they lack innovation

Pygo · 16th Jun 2006, 00:14

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The placement of the 8-pin ATX 12v connector isn't as bad as it may seem at first sight. Obviously in an ideal world, the connector would be located right next to the edge of the motherboard, but the position that Foxconn has adopted is easily accessible thanks to the fact that the CPU socket is so close to the memory slots.

:haha: That made me LOL out loud.
Good review. I find it troubling when I come accross motherboards that have issues like this. Its too bad they don't take it for a final review.
I'm not very familiar with Foxconn's product line or how many revisions they do on their boards, but do you think they may fix a few issues in a revision?

TMM · 16th Jun 2006, 09:09

The further away the Ram slots are from the CPU, the more interference and potential latency/timing issues you get. AFAIK, its the whole reason the slots further away from the CPU usually don't overclock as well on many motherboards. I don't like the stupid placement of the chipset (under pci-e x16 slot 1 AGAIN?! i thought manufacturers already learnt not to do this after NF3 AND NF4), otherwise it looks fine.

eddtox · 16th Jun 2006, 09:48

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Originally Posted by koola

I don't like it at all tbh. Foxconn should of rearanged the layout to provide a bit more space around the cpu as mentioned in the review. This just shows that Foxconn can't design motherboards very well. In fact, I would go as far to say they lack innovation

While I agree that they could have tweaked the layout, I think you're being too harsh on them. As Bigz said, the proximity of DIMM 1 to the CPU socket shouldn't be a problem if you watercool, which I wager many people will do.

-ed out

yahooadam · 16th Jun 2006, 12:25

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Originally Posted by eddtox

While I agree that they could have tweaked the layout, I think you're being too harsh on them. As Bigz said, the proximity of DIMM 1 to the CPU socket shouldn't be a problem if you watercool, which I wager many people will do.

probably a small fraction TBH, watercooling is still very pricey

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eddtox Supermodder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Medway Posts: 345	Absolutely agree. This board is looking pretty awesome. If Foxconn were willing to bring out a revision to fix these minor glitches this could prove to be a very popular board. I would consider getting it even if they didn't. One thing though, would the close proximity of the DIMMs to the CPU be a problem for watercooling? -ed out

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olly_lewis Hypermodder Join Date: May 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 756	Yer i was wondering that bigz, watercooling should be fine, but large fans such as the Asus StarIce 4 in 1 CPU cooler or the Gigabyte GH PCU31-SD 3D, you could have problems for these large copper heat sink fans, because of the width of the copper surround... And then there are the large fanless heatsink, basically a huge block of aluminum, that could cause you problems...

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sl1xx Multimodder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: ????????? Posts: 127	I would proble buy this mobo if it had a passive mobo cooler and the ram slot's were set as the dfi mobo but arr well, ill wait for review on the asus m2n32-sli deluxe layout looks sweet just hope performance wise its good. all in all good effort foxconn :P __________________ http://miniprofile.xfire.com/bg/sf/type/2/j4ck3luk.png

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14th Jun 2006, 21:33	#11
Pookeyhead It's Big, and It's Clever Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Blackpool Posts: 4,952	Would look nice in my rig... all you'd see is my water pipes! Cool. That CPU placement is not the best piece of design I've seen. It shouldn't be a problem with most watercooling, but anything other than a stock HSF may be a problem. Not happy with that 12v connector either. The beauty of having that, and the ATX almost next to each other is that both big fat power cables can be tied together, and it's easier to tidy the wiring. Having two seperate power cables going to the board is messy. It's bad enough trying to hide the ATX and 12v cables when they'r lashed together, but when they're on opposite sides of the board there's not a great deal you can do about that. Not the most impressive HT speeds either. Looks a nice board, but the above would bother me too much I think. Good review tho __________________ Intel i7 920 @ 3.8GHz ¦¦ Asus P6T Deluxe ¦¦ 6Gb Corsair Dominator C8 ¦¦ XFX GTX295 ¦¦ 2x 1Tb Samsung F1 ¦¦ 1x Seagate 7200.11 1.5Tb ¦¦ Gigabyte Odin 800W PSU ¦¦ Dell 2405FPW.

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Tulatin The Froggy Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 2,942	Looks good, and i'm glad Nvidia's ref is a nice board. What i do wish is that more manufacturers did the DFI thing, and put the 24 and 8 pins within MM of each other... __________________ Desky E8400 @ 4.0 1.42v; P5K-E WiFi; 4x1 Kingmax Mars 1066 @ 1129 CAS 5; 2x [TOO CHEAP TO SPONSOR] 4850 @ 675/1050; Enermax Liberty; WCing in a CM690

15th Jun 2006, 08:58	#14
yahooadam Ultra csavarkulcs Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: UK Posts: 1,323	looks pretty cool to me hopefully we can get some really tight timing memory for the NF5 boards Im very interesting in the packet scheduling technology - is bit tech going to evaluate this ? (game and bittorent maybe ?)

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koola Eat my... Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: UK Posts: 2,210	I don't like it at all tbh. Foxconn should of rearanged the layout to provide a bit more space around the cpu as mentioned in the review. This just shows that Foxconn can't design motherboards very well. In fact, I would go as far to say they lack innovation __________________ PSN: koola-uk

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TMM Modder Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,228	The further away the Ram slots are from the CPU, the more interference and potential latency/timing issues you get. AFAIK, its the whole reason the slots further away from the CPU usually don't overclock as well on many motherboards. I don't like the stupid placement of the chipset (under pci-e x16 slot 1 AGAIN?! i thought manufacturers already learnt not to do this after NF3 AND NF4), otherwise it looks fine. __________________ no, your face. Last edited by TMM; 16th Jun 2006 at 09:17.