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WilHarris · 16th Jun 2006, 14:56

http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2006/06...y_tours/1.html

RotoSequence · 16th Jun 2006, 15:08

Fun thing to see. Too bad they wouldnt let you video the SMD machines; whats to protect though from that? Its not like there are other manufacturers who would benefit from seeing their particular machines in action

Nice job though; I love these kinds of articles. Now, if you can get into a silicon fab...

Tim S · 16th Jun 2006, 15:12

I'm going to have a go next time I'm out that way...

gpw111 · 16th Jun 2006, 15:21

thats really strange, i was reading only yesterday how they solder the components on the motherboard, and now today there's a hole article on bit-tech

nice 1

Tulatin · 16th Jun 2006, 15:47

Trust me, if you tried to solder that many components onto a bloody motherboard you'd go mental. Besides, when it takes all of 15 seconds to spray the SMDs, sockets, and chipset onto a board, would you rather have somebody sit there for an hour with a soldering iron and glue?

On the line, there's VERY little hand soldering. Just socket, oven, scrape, test and finish.

GuardianStorm · 16th Jun 2006, 15:49

those placement machines are great to watch, i saw an 18 layer machine while on work experiance at seimens

Ramble · 16th Jun 2006, 16:07

Reminds me of a How It's Made episode.
The SMD machine basically moves a firing gun around the board (using an optical laser finder thing) and fire the components right into there, very impressive to see.

Kipman725 · 16th Jun 2006, 16:27

you certinaly get your moneys worth with a motherboard

Tulatin · 16th Jun 2006, 16:30

Aye. Now if only ECS printed golden tickets and gave them with boards...

eddtox · 16th Jun 2006, 16:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tulatin

Aye. Now if only ECS printed golden tickets and gave them with boards...

Wow! That would be so cool!

-ed out

RTT · 16th Jun 2006, 16:51

Nice article

Da Dego · 16th Jun 2006, 17:40

awesome job, biggles! I love articles like this.

specofdust · 16th Jun 2006, 17:54

That's a supurb article. Extremely intresting. I did attempt to click on images a few times though <cough>hint clicky pictures please<cough>.

I find stuff like that really engrossing, so more stuff on the production and in depth stuff on any computer hardware like that will definately be welcomed

K · 16th Jun 2006, 19:08

How nostalgic, I used to work in surface mount as an engineer and quality technician

The testing of PC motherboards is probably far more interesting than the stuff we made though. Not as expensive though, heh.

They didn't produce the PCBs though, so that was interesting to see!

mikeuk2004 · 16th Jun 2006, 19:11

Cool artical. They should do guided tours for Bit Tech subscribers

Im actually off to China tomorrow on my hols. Think they will let me have a look around?? lol would be nice.

Stonewall78 · 16th Jun 2006, 19:58

Since I work for a company that has our own small SMT line it is interesting to see how the big companies do it (although I have visited a couple large production lines). Maybe next time we do a SMT run I will take a short video (although it is nowhere the speed of the newer machines).

yahooadam · 16th Jun 2006, 20:12

nice article, shame about the video thing
I thought it was rather disappointing that so much of the work is done by humans, with almost to only automated bit being SMD

I also thought it was funny - 5x as many employees and only 2x more productivity

automagsrock · 16th Jun 2006, 20:42

Very cool article. I have an ECS mobo in my current desktop and I've never had a problem and now I can see why. That's sme pretty decent testing, especially at those temps (my PC dies after 30 minutes of 3dmark2k1 (but thats cause it sucks))

You guys (if you have the ability) should do more articles like this

RotoSequence · 16th Jun 2006, 20:56

ECS as a whole is a good company for value ended items; you can get away with putting one of these in a PC that wont be used for overclocking quite easily - you have to be a lot more careful with their PC Chips subsidiary though

Geordanh · 16th Jun 2006, 21:35

Great article guys, that was a really good read. Plugged!

See ya later,

-Geordan

16th Jun 2006, 14:56	#1
WilHarris Just another nobody Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Oxford Posts: 2,671	ECS Manufacturing in ShenZhen http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2006/06...y_tours/1.html

16th Jun 2006, 15:08	#2
RotoSequence Lazy Lurker Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: 'States Posts: 4,529	Fun thing to see. Too bad they wouldnt let you video the SMD machines; whats to protect though from that? Its not like there are other manufacturers who would benefit from seeing their particular machines in action Nice job though; I love these kinds of articles. Now, if you can get into a silicon fab... __________________ Technology Schmecnology

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Tulatin The Froggy Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 2,941	Trust me, if you tried to solder that many components onto a bloody motherboard you'd go mental. Besides, when it takes all of 15 seconds to spray the SMDs, sockets, and chipset onto a board, would you rather have somebody sit there for an hour with a soldering iron and glue? On the line, there's VERY little hand soldering. Just socket, oven, scrape, test and finish. __________________ Desky E8400 @ 4.0 1.42v; P5K-E WiFi; 4x1 Kingmax Mars 1066 @ 1129 CAS 5; 2x [TOO CHEAP TO SPONSOR] 4850 @ 675/1050; Enermax Liberty; WCing in a CM690

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GuardianStorm Ultramodder Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 1,464	those placement machines are great to watch, i saw an 18 layer machine while on work experiance at seimens __________________ Sites: My Site :: My blog Tools: Project Log Previewer Curent Projects: Dark Vortex Finished Projects: Yarrrbox :: Laptop Stand :: Bench PSU MK2 :: FS2 Guides: How To Bend Metal

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gpw111 Multimodder Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London Posts: 92	thats really strange, i was reading only yesterday how they solder the components on the motherboard, and now today there's a hole article on bit-tech nice 1

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Ramble Ginger Nut Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Exeter, Devon/Wantage, Oxfordshire Posts: 5,235	Reminds me of a How It's Made episode. The SMD machine basically moves a firing gun around the board (using an optical laser finder thing) and fire the components right into there, very impressive to see. __________________ Kirk, Spock, McCoy, and Ensign Ricky are beaming down to the planet. Guess who's not coming back.

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Tulatin The Froggy Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 2,941	Aye. Now if only ECS printed golden tickets and gave them with boards... __________________ Desky E8400 @ 4.0 1.42v; P5K-E WiFi; 4x1 Kingmax Mars 1066 @ 1129 CAS 5; 2x [TOO CHEAP TO SPONSOR] 4850 @ 675/1050; Enermax Liberty; WCing in a CM690

16th Jun 2006, 16:51	#11
RTT bwarp Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Berkshire Posts: 12,985	Nice article

16th Jun 2006, 17:40	#12
Da Dego Brett Thomas Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cleveland, OH USA Posts: 3,906	awesome job, biggles! I love articles like this. __________________ "Frankly that seems overkill. iluvtrees2 arguing with spec is the intellectual equivalent of a bunny rabbit taking on a pissed-off lion." - Nexxo

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specofdust Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Aberdeen, UK, EU Posts: 7,615	That's a supurb article. Extremely intresting. I did attempt to click on images a few times though <cough>hint clicky pictures please<cough>. I find stuff like that really engrossing, so more stuff on the production and in depth stuff on any computer hardware like that will definately be welcomed __________________ Like marmite, only no-one hates it Mmm bop!

16th Jun 2006, 19:08	#14
K say whoa Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Warwick Posts: 5,537	How nostalgic, I used to work in surface mount as an engineer and quality technician The testing of PC motherboards is probably far more interesting than the stuff we made though. Not as expensive though, heh. They didn't produce the PCBs though, so that was interesting to see! __________________ 15GB 3G iPod - 16GB 3G iPhone 24" iMac - 2.66 GHz - 4GB RAM - 640 GB HDD - 500GB WD MyBook - 40" Samsung M87

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mikeuk2004 What you Looking at Fool! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 3,051	Cool artical. They should do guided tours for Bit Tech subscribers Im actually off to China tomorrow on my hols. Think they will let me have a look around?? lol would be nice. __________________ -\|- Xfire - Mikeuk2005 -\|- Xbox Live - Mike UK 2006 -\|- Playstation Network - Mikeuk2004 -\|-

16th Jun 2006, 19:58	#16
Stonewall78 Multimodder Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Calgary, AB Canada Posts: 85	Since I work for a company that has our own small SMT line it is interesting to see how the big companies do it (although I have visited a couple large production lines). Maybe next time we do a SMT run I will take a short video (although it is nowhere the speed of the newer machines).

16th Jun 2006, 20:12	#17
yahooadam Ultra csavarkulcs Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: UK Posts: 1,323	nice article, shame about the video thing I thought it was rather disappointing that so much of the work is done by humans, with almost to only automated bit being SMD I also thought it was funny - 5x as many employees and only 2x more productivity

16th Jun 2006, 20:42	#18
automagsrock Hypermodder Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Great Falls, Montana, US Posts: 936	Very cool article. I have an ECS mobo in my current desktop and I've never had a problem and now I can see why. That's sme pretty decent testing, especially at those temps (my PC dies after 30 minutes of 3dmark2k1 (but thats cause it sucks)) You guys (if you have the ability) should do more articles like this __________________ I am bored of my old sig, so here's my WoW character armory link instead PS3 network name: Myrmccheese

16th Jun 2006, 20:56	#19
RotoSequence Lazy Lurker Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: 'States Posts: 4,529	ECS as a whole is a good company for value ended items; you can get away with putting one of these in a PC that wont be used for overclocking quite easily - you have to be a lot more careful with their PC Chips subsidiary though __________________ Technology Schmecnology

16th Jun 2006, 21:35	#20
Geordanh What's a Dremel? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1	Great article guys, that was a really good read. Plugged! See ya later, -Geordan