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Da Dego · 3rd Aug 2006, 14:19

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/08...illa_get_Real/

Darkedge · 3rd Aug 2006, 14:25

"Are you with me that any mention of RealPlayer violates Google's "Do no evil" clause?"

YES! Real software is HORRIBLE - Worse than the worst MS have ever produced.
Oh dear.

GuardianStorm · 3rd Aug 2006, 14:29

i dislike real player alot. RealAlternative is good though

will. · 3rd Aug 2006, 14:36

bad move.... although, as long as i don't get asked to install realplayer with firefox every time it updates, i'm still a happy camper!

DXR_13KE · 3rd Aug 2006, 14:41

real player will never again get into a computer i own. NEVER!!!
it is..... realy sucky software multiplied by infinite.

Swafeman · 3rd Aug 2006, 14:44

Realplayer sucks le balls

TheoGeo · 3rd Aug 2006, 14:56

I dont mind real player asking people if they want to install firefox/google bar but i certainly dont want it the other way around. Tbh though i doubt google or mozilla would go that far.

Maybe google/mozilla will pressure real networks into improving their software... though i doubt it.

cpemma · 3rd Aug 2006, 14:57

I've been using RealPlayer Enterprise version for a few years (needed for some BBC videos). As it's designed for office use it's less "phone-home" than the ordinary version.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Real

RealPlayer Enterprise gives you the best of RealPlayer you know and use at home, but without advertising, without requiring registration, and without consumer features that don’t belong in the workplace.

btw, you don't need to give Real genuine info (like your email address) to get it.

[USRF]Obiwan · 3rd Aug 2006, 15:09

I dont care if real does phone home or does anything else spam related. The damn player just plain sucks bigtime. And will never ever gets on my desks in my lifetime.

Paradigm Shifter · 3rd Aug 2006, 16:34

I've refused to ever contemplate using RealNetworks software since I saw the horrors it committed on a mates PC. Symantec and RealPlayer are the two things I will never install.

Ever.

RealAlternative is just as efficient, with none of the bloat. Much like AVG or Avast!...

Spearhead · 3rd Aug 2006, 16:52

i love the fact that even if you buy the full real player.... you still get all the popups and such.... maybe theyll improve? or theyll just drag mozilla and google down in to the hot firey depths of hell with them...

dullonien · 3rd Aug 2006, 17:35

I was actually having a discussion in work with a fellow collegue about real player. When I say discussion, I actually mean both of us saying that it's an utter pile of $*^t.

The only reason I would need it is for listening to bbc radio online, thanks for the people who mentioned RealAlternative.

[Jonny] · 3rd Aug 2006, 18:49

This is good for the Firefox count in the UK, since you need RealPlayer (or are advised to use it) on the BBC site.

TheoGeo · 3rd Aug 2006, 19:49

To be honest i think we should just all campaign the bbc to stop using real player, seeing as no other (decent) website seems to use it, im fairly sure the bbc is keeping it going.

Firehed · 3rd Aug 2006, 19:51

Heh, this discussion is almost identical to the one on slashdot when they posted this yesterday. That said, I agree, though supposedly Real's become much better than it used to be in the last year or so. If it spreads Firefox, so much the better - not because I care about spreading OSS (it's a plus, but I honestly don't care what people use) but because it means it being more out there means better site support. Though there are very very few websites that I go to that give either Firefox or Safari problems.

TheoGeo · 3rd Aug 2006, 19:57

tesco.com grocery shopping didnt used to complain about firefox and it worked perfectly fine, now it complains its an incompatible browser and takes you to an alternate crapy site. Opening it properly in ie and i noticed no differences to before when it worked with firefox.

also webct doesnt officialy work with firefox and complains ALOT as a result, again, apart from the many complaining pop-ups there doesnt seem to be a problem. I dont know anyone in this uni who doesnt use firefox for webct.

You would think they would take firefox more seriously with the market share its got.

dragontail · 3rd Aug 2006, 20:17

uegh, hate realplayer. The popups things that come up randomly piss me off the most >=( Well, at least I don't have to d/l it with Firefox... yet...

yahooadam · 3rd Aug 2006, 21:08

i really hate real player too

but IMO quick time is almost as bad also, quick time alternative also ***

fortunately, i don't find a lot of things i do to need real player

Nikumba · 3rd Aug 2006, 22:55

The BBC is starting to move over to media player from real media, i belive it was down to licences costs but if Firefox comes with real player then firefox goes in the bin simple as that.

real player is an ungodly peice of software that should be burnt at a stake

yahooadam · 3rd Aug 2006, 23:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikumba

if Firefox comes with real player

its the other way around <_<

3rd Aug 2006, 14:19	#1
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3rd Aug 2006, 14:36	#4
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3rd Aug 2006, 14:25	#2
Darkedge Supermodder Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: UK Posts: 334	"Are you with me that any mention of RealPlayer violates Google's "Do no evil" clause?" YES! Real software is HORRIBLE - Worse than the worst MS have ever produced. Oh dear.

3rd Aug 2006, 14:56	#7
TheoGeo What are these goddamn animals?! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Reading Posts: 2,205	I dont mind real player asking people if they want to install firefox/google bar but i certainly dont want it the other way around. Tbh though i doubt google or mozilla would go that far. Maybe google/mozilla will pressure real networks into improving their software... though i doubt it. __________________ My Deviance -- My Music Athlon X2 4400+ -- 2GB Corsair XMS -- Geforce 7800GT -- Abit AN8-SLI -- 24" BenQ fp241w -- 74 gig raptor -- 1.6TB total storage -- 530w tagan psu Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there.

3rd Aug 2006, 15:09	#9
[USRF]Obiwan Ultramodder Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,220	I dont care if real does phone home or does anything else spam related. The damn player just plain sucks bigtime. And will never ever gets on my desks in my lifetime. __________________ Mascleta: "The most accurate simulation of thunder, humans can simulate..." The answer is 42, so... whats the question again? If you know what 'Peek' and 'Poke' represents, then you are probably as old as me.

3rd Aug 2006, 16:34	#10
Paradigm Shifter Lethargic Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,213	I've refused to ever contemplate using RealNetworks software since I saw the horrors it committed on a mates PC. Symantec and RealPlayer are the two things I will never install. Ever. RealAlternative is just as efficient, with none of the bloat. Much like AVG or Avast!... __________________ Core i7 920 D0 @ 3.8GHz \| 6GB Corsair 1600MHz \| Gigabyte EX58-UD5 \| XFX 4870X2 2GB \| 4TB \| WUXGA

3rd Aug 2006, 16:52	#11
Spearhead What's a Dremel? Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Guernsey, UK Posts: 9	i love the fact that even if you buy the full real player.... you still get all the popups and such.... maybe theyll improve? or theyll just drag mozilla and google down in to the hot firey depths of hell with them...

3rd Aug 2006, 17:35	#12
dullonien Master of the unfinished. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Lincoln, UK. Posts: 311	I was actually having a discussion in work with a fellow collegue about real player. When I say discussion, I actually mean both of us saying that it's an utter pile of $*^t. The only reason I would need it is for listening to bbc radio online, thanks for the people who mentioned RealAlternative. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q6600 @ 3.0GHz, Abit Fatal1ty F-I90HD (uATX), 4GB Corsair XMS2-6400C4, Sapphire HD4870 Vapour-X 1GB, Hiper 580W Type R, 4.1TB of Seagate Storage, Antec 300 + Lian-Li V300 (Lian-Li to be modded shortly).

3rd Aug 2006, 18:49	#13
[Jonny] Supermodder Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Wales Posts: 296	This is good for the Firefox count in the UK, since you need RealPlayer (or are advised to use it) on the BBC site.

3rd Aug 2006, 19:49	#14
TheoGeo What are these goddamn animals?! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Reading Posts: 2,205	To be honest i think we should just all campaign the bbc to stop using real player, seeing as no other (decent) website seems to use it, im fairly sure the bbc is keeping it going. __________________ My Deviance -- My Music Athlon X2 4400+ -- 2GB Corsair XMS -- Geforce 7800GT -- Abit AN8-SLI -- 24" BenQ fp241w -- 74 gig raptor -- 1.6TB total storage -- 530w tagan psu Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there.

3rd Aug 2006, 19:51	#15
Firehed Why not? I own a domain to match. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: An hour north of Boston Posts: 12,576	Heh, this discussion is almost identical to the one on slashdot when they posted this yesterday. That said, I agree, though supposedly Real's become much better than it used to be in the last year or so. If it spreads Firefox, so much the better - not because I care about spreading OSS (it's a plus, but I honestly don't care what people use) but because it means it being more out there means better site support. Though there are very very few websites that I go to that give either Firefox or Safari problems. __________________ hire me @ eric-stern.com - web developer and php ninja pics @ my smugmug :: Twitter @firehed :: blog @ firehed.net 40D\|580EXII\|285HV\|AB800\|70-200f/4LIS\|17-50f/2.8\|150f/2.8Macro\|50f/1.8 MacPro @ 8x2.8GHz, 10GB FBDDR2, 3TB HD :: MBP @ 2x2.2GHz, 4GB DDR2, 320GB HD

3rd Aug 2006, 19:57	#16
TheoGeo What are these goddamn animals?! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Reading Posts: 2,205	tesco.com grocery shopping didnt used to complain about firefox and it worked perfectly fine, now it complains its an incompatible browser and takes you to an alternate crapy site. Opening it properly in ie and i noticed no differences to before when it worked with firefox. also webct doesnt officialy work with firefox and complains ALOT as a result, again, apart from the many complaining pop-ups there doesnt seem to be a problem. I dont know anyone in this uni who doesnt use firefox for webct. You would think they would take firefox more seriously with the market share its got. __________________ My Deviance -- My Music Athlon X2 4400+ -- 2GB Corsair XMS -- Geforce 7800GT -- Abit AN8-SLI -- 24" BenQ fp241w -- 74 gig raptor -- 1.6TB total storage -- 530w tagan psu Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there.

3rd Aug 2006, 20:17	#17
dragontail 7-2 offsuit Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Belfast/Cambridge Posts: 1,389	uegh, hate realplayer. The popups things that come up randomly piss me off the most >=( Well, at least I don't have to d/l it with Firefox... yet... __________________ Project COMTAR Acoustic Guitar, meet Mini-ITX *[ * * * * * * * * ]* MBP 15" \| Dell 2408WFP

3rd Aug 2006, 21:08	#18
yahooadam Ultra csavarkulcs Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: UK Posts: 1,323	i really hate real player too but IMO quick time is almost as bad also, quick time alternative also *** fortunately, i don't find a lot of things i do to need real player

3rd Aug 2006, 22:55	#19
Nikumba Supermodder Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Dark Place Posts: 371	The BBC is starting to move over to media player from real media, i belive it was down to licences costs but if Firefox comes with real player then firefox goes in the bin simple as that. real player is an ungodly peice of software that should be burnt at a stake