iTunes to soon allow DVD burns - bit-tech.net Forums

Da Dego · 11th Aug 2006, 15:15

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/08...low_dvd_burns/

BioSniper · 11th Aug 2006, 15:17

How exactly is a computer going to see this as "un-rippable" exactly? The only way that can happen is by ensuring the computer can't read the disc surely?

mclean007 · 11th Aug 2006, 15:35

I'm surprised at this, given that CSS was smashed wide open yeeeeeears ago by "DVD Jon". I'm sure there's hardly a user on this forum that hasn't heard of DeCSS, as applied in DVD Decrypter.

This is a good move, however. The burned discs will be as 'secure' as store-bought DVDs, and *should* be playable on any standard DVD player, unlike the current 'burn your own' systems, which seem to try to protect content by introducing deliberate errors which push a DVD player's error correction algorythms to the extreme, which are unplayable on many DVD players, and which are damaged beyond use by tiny scratches, which defeats the whole point of error correction in the first place!

Da Dego · 11th Aug 2006, 16:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by mclean007

I'm surprised at this, given that CSS was smashed wide open yeeeeeears ago by "DVD Jon". I'm sure there's hardly a user on this forum that hasn't heard of DeCSS, as applied in DVD Decrypter.

This is a good move, however. The burned discs will be as 'secure' as store-bought DVDs, and *should* be playable on any standard DVD player, unlike the current 'burn your own' systems, which seem to try to protect content by introducing deliberate errors which push a DVD player's error correction algorythms to the extreme, which are unplayable on many DVD players, and which are damaged beyond use by tiny scratches, which defeats the whole point of error correction in the first place!

Just remember, mclean007 - DRM is not there to actually prevent piracy, it's just there to confuse the casual dude who wants to let his brother watch his favorite movie.

yahooadam · 11th Aug 2006, 16:36

i predict this will be a failure

it will end up that a whole load of DVD players wont be able to play the disc beacause of this, and it will be hacked anyway ...

Kipman725 · 11th Aug 2006, 17:32

it's already been cracked. DVD dycrpter can rip all current dvd's and for the new dvds to be playable in current players then they can't introduce any new protections.

yahooadam · 12th Aug 2006, 00:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kipman725

current dvd's

This isnt a current DVD tech though ....

DXR_13KE · 12th Aug 2006, 02:08

it will be hacked, cracked, sliced, diced, and roled in onions within 1 week.

Nezuji · 12th Aug 2006, 09:54

One word: Macrovision.

Nezuji

Aankhen · 12th Aug 2006, 10:08

Move over Blu-Ray and HD-DVD... we have a new King of Failed Formats.

I can just imagine this scenario: some random person hears that "that thar iTunes can burninate me some DVDs", so he runs out to buy a 10-pack, comes back, pops a disc into his drive, and is rewarded by iTunes telling him he bought the wrong kind of DVD. "What? But this is a DVD! I asked specifically for DVDs at the store!"

Ahem. Not Shakespeare, I'll give you that, but it's the best I can do right now.

11th Aug 2006, 15:15	#1
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mclean007 Officious Bystander Join Date: May 2003 Location: Nodnol Posts: 1,595	I'm surprised at this, given that CSS was smashed wide open yeeeeeears ago by "DVD Jon". I'm sure there's hardly a user on this forum that hasn't heard of DeCSS, as applied in DVD Decrypter. This is a good move, however. The burned discs will be as 'secure' as store-bought DVDs, and should be playable on any standard DVD player, unlike the current 'burn your own' systems, which seem to try to protect content by introducing deliberate errors which push a DVD player's error correction algorythms to the extreme, which are unplayable on many DVD players, and which are damaged beyond use by tiny scratches, which defeats the whole point of error correction in the first place! __________________ Demand Naked DSL in the UK!

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yahooadam Ultra csavarkulcs Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: UK Posts: 1,323	i predict this will be a failure it will end up that a whole load of DVD players wont be able to play the disc beacause of this, and it will be hacked anyway ...

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Aankhen Supermodder Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: India Posts: 406	Move over Blu-Ray and HD-DVD... we have a new King of Failed Formats. I can just imagine this scenario: some random person hears that "that thar iTunes can burninate me some DVDs", so he runs out to buy a 10-pack, comes back, pops a disc into his drive, and is rewarded by iTunes telling him he bought the wrong kind of DVD. "What? But this is a DVD! I asked specifically for DVDs at the store!" Ahem. Not Shakespeare, I'll give you that, but it's the best I can do right now. __________________ It sure took me a long time to realize I hadn't changed my forum settings since returning from Canadia-land.