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Da Dego · 15th Aug 2006, 19:14

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/08...t_up_on_Bully/

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Veles · 15th Aug 2006, 19:20

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Originally Posted by Da Dego

My thoughts exactly

I remember when D&D was the "game of choice" for budding serial killers.

PrometheusCon · 15th Aug 2006, 19:25

You do know that Charles Manson used D&D to get his "family"? It's that damn charm spell with a combination of the Rod of Magic +4. Very Deadly....

I hope this games gets through. If it does then it will explode in popularity due to it's controversy. GTA series is a perfect example of how controversy sells.

LoneArchon · 15th Aug 2006, 19:35

I like how he states that gta was being sold to children even with the m rating. The rating system need to be redone with simpler levels such as all, teen, adult. This would make thing clearer for unknowing parents. But even that would not stop parent from buy game like gta for their kids. But this is america where everyone sues everyone else.

mcshaggy · 15th Aug 2006, 19:45

I love how much ole Jacko loves to toot his own horn, "whose release has been delayed for over a year in large part because of the efforts of the undersigned petitioner"

monkeybone · 15th Aug 2006, 19:48

I don't know what's wrong with parents theses days. They can't seem to take responsibility for their own actions.

As for the rating system, it's pretty straight forward. The 'label' will say T for teen or E10+ which is for everone 10 or older. Mature (on top of label says 17+), AO = adults only 18+

They even put a second label on the back of the game that says it is rated due to 'mild lyrics', 'bad language', 'mild violence', 'nudity', etc... How much more information do you want to put on the games?

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.jsp

my 2 cents...

Monkeybone

EQC · 15th Aug 2006, 19:53

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Originally Posted by Jack

If Bully is indeed safe for children’s play, then petitioner will be the first to say so. If it is not, then not only will the underlying action be brought sounding in Florida nuisance law, but also possibly in fraud.

I like how Jack has deemed himself qualified to judge the games appropriateness for all of the nation's children (which would include individuals aged 0 - 17.9 and in locations as disparate as Bible-Belt Alabama, Shot-gun toting Texas, and Legal Prostitution Nevada).

Of course it's not appropriate for "children" -- it's appropriate for individuals of a mature enough mind to deal with it -- which, for me, would have begun when I was about 13 years old. For others, maybe when they're 16. For others, when they're 9. And for others, it's never appropriate even when they're 45 and have their own kids because they have some unusual inherent problem. That's what parents are for...to taylor the world for their children until either:

a) the children are mature enough to handle the world themselves, or
b) the children are old enough isolate themselves from what they would find objectionable.

Somebody should send Jack to the average US middle-class Junior High School (middle school for those in other parts of the country). He'd see that the language and fighting and harrassment of all forms, and, yes, prostitution among a few students, that are already in the schools has prepared our children well for video games like this. And yes, the Junior High came long before the Video Game...so let's not blame the wrong one for the problem.

MortarHeadd · 15th Aug 2006, 19:58

I just love how Jack refers to GTA and Bully as "murder simulators." I also love how he has appointed himself as judge, jury and executioner for the videogame industry.

rupbert · 15th Aug 2006, 19:59

Did god change his name by deed poll to Jack?

Sinner666 · 15th Aug 2006, 20:20

[sarcasam]

Thank goodness we have Jack to raise our children right!

JACK FOR GOD 2008!

[/sarcasam]

FooSai · 15th Aug 2006, 20:22

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Bully is a video game that will allow the player to rehearse violence upon his classmates and teachers

Seen as the game will with out any doubt be rated 18+, won't anyone who should be playing it, be out of school?

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Take-Two was selling this game to children despite the embedded adult content, and it knew that children were accessing it.

All he seems to have babbled on about is that it is unsuitable for children to play. So realistically shouldn't this guy go after the parents of the children who are being allowed to play this?

Tim S · 15th Aug 2006, 20:26

He's just bullying Take-Two/Wal-Mart because he wants to be the first to play the game.

Stwongbad · 15th Aug 2006, 20:44

When is this man going to die?

perplekks45 · 15th Aug 2006, 20:48

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Originally Posted by Tim S

He's just bullying Take-Two/Wal-Mart because he wants to be the first to play the game.

Actually I think he's just mad at them 'cause he had a bad childhood and never had anything to play with instead 'The Big Book Of How To Sue Everybody For Everything Without Any Reason'.

Agent_M · 15th Aug 2006, 20:53

why not have a standard rating system, like we have for films, cos if i remember correctly they have all that rubbish on the boxes about if its scary or violent or has psychopathic bunny rabbits in and what not, if someone is gonna buy a game they will atleast have an idea of the content so why do they need to be told by the box that its scary.

they should just copy the film rating system with an age then on the back have a lil box that lists the kinda stuff in it like mild violence and all that rubbish, but i doubt thats even needed.

oh and fine shops that sell to underage kids, seems rather logical to me.

PrometheusCon · 15th Aug 2006, 20:56

Eventually he's going to want the labels to be like Canadian cigarettes. You know the ones with pictures of infested lungs included and stuff. Right now we have the label resting in the corner and the title taking up everything else. He'll want to warning to be the title and the title in the corner.

Ramble · 15th Aug 2006, 21:09

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Originally Posted by Stwongbad

When is this man going to die?

Forget evolution, forget WMDs. THIS is the question people should be asking.

EK-MDi · 15th Aug 2006, 21:16

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Originally Posted by Stwongbad

When is this man going to die?

Oh we can make arrangements. Just joking

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Ramble · 15th Aug 2006, 22:07

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Originally Posted by EK-MDi

Oh we can make arrangements. Just joking

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I don't think anyone else is joking about these arrangements

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Cthippo · 15th Aug 2006, 22:09

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Originally Posted by EK-MDi

Oh we can make arrangements. Just joking

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How about a mod for the game where Jack visits the school and the player gets to help gang-rape him before burning him at the stake?

15th Aug 2006, 19:14	#1
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15th Aug 2006, 19:35	#4
LoneArchon Supermodder Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Waldorf,MD Posts: 422	I like how he states that gta was being sold to children even with the m rating. The rating system need to be redone with simpler levels such as all, teen, adult. This would make thing clearer for unknowing parents. But even that would not stop parent from buy game like gta for their kids. But this is america where everyone sues everyone else. __________________ .:NEED MORE ENERGY:. A64 x2 4800+/eVGA Geforce 8800gtx with dangerden Water Block/2GB Corsair 3200/250gb Western Digital/Asus A8N32-Sli Deluxe/24" Acer LCD

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mcshaggy Multimodder Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 183	I love how much ole Jacko loves to toot his own horn, "whose release has been delayed for over a year in large part because of the efforts of the undersigned petitioner" __________________ <+king-malcs> i would **** my sister if i had one -------------- <+Computerking> I asked 10 hookers <+Computerking> they said no too me

15th Aug 2006, 19:48	#6
monkeybone Minimodder Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 47	I don't know what's wrong with parents theses days. They can't seem to take responsibility for their own actions. As for the rating system, it's pretty straight forward. The 'label' will say T for teen or E10+ which is for everone 10 or older. Mature (on top of label says 17+), AO = adults only 18+ They even put a second label on the back of the game that says it is rated due to 'mild lyrics', 'bad language', 'mild violence', 'nudity', etc... How much more information do you want to put on the games? http://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.jsp my 2 cents... Monkeybone __________________ "Imagination is more important than knowledge." Albert Einstein "Veni, Vidi, Vici" - "I came, I saw, I conquered" Julius Caesar Hosting made easy!

15th Aug 2006, 19:58	#8
MortarHeadd What's a Dremel? Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: South River, New Jersey Posts: 12	I just love how Jack refers to GTA and Bully as "murder simulators." I also love how he has appointed himself as judge, jury and executioner for the videogame industry. __________________ I knew I got my JrAdmin job when my SysAdmin walked by my desk and saw me reading the BOFH: Book V on my lunchbreak, and flashed his copy of Book IV. Thus making me his version of the PFY. echo "AFC6]6G:=]86?:FDo8>2:=]4@>" \| tr '!-~' 'P-~!-O'

15th Aug 2006, 19:25	#3
PrometheusCon Stop! Hammertime. Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hel...err Pennsylvania Posts: 159	You do know that Charles Manson used D&D to get his "family"? It's that damn charm spell with a combination of the Rod of Magic +4. Very Deadly.... I hope this games gets through. If it does then it will explode in popularity due to it's controversy. GTA series is a perfect example of how controversy sells.

15th Aug 2006, 19:59	#9
rupbert Hypermodder Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 799	Did god change his name by deed poll to Jack?

15th Aug 2006, 20:20	#10
Sinner666 Multimodder Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 101	[sarcasam] Thank goodness we have Jack to raise our children right! JACK FOR GOD 2008! [/sarcasam]

15th Aug 2006, 20:26	#12
Tim S Pewlius Caesar bit-tech Staff Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Ascot, Berks Posts: 18,021	He's just bullying Take-Two/Wal-Mart because he wants to be the first to play the game. __________________ Tim on Twitter \| Tim's Blog \| Tim's Flickr The bit-tech Blog \| bit-tech on Twitter \| Join the bit-tech & Custom PC folding team (#35947)

15th Aug 2006, 20:44	#13
Stwongbad Supermodder Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: West Hills, California Posts: 536	When is this man going to die? __________________ Snap! Crackle! Stwongbad!

15th Aug 2006, 20:53	#15
Agent_M Supermodder Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: bristol Posts: 442	why not have a standard rating system, like we have for films, cos if i remember correctly they have all that rubbish on the boxes about if its scary or violent or has psychopathic bunny rabbits in and what not, if someone is gonna buy a game they will atleast have an idea of the content so why do they need to be told by the box that its scary. they should just copy the film rating system with an age then on the back have a lil box that lists the kinda stuff in it like mild violence and all that rubbish, but i doubt thats even needed. oh and fine shops that sell to underage kids, seems rather logical to me.

15th Aug 2006, 20:56	#16
PrometheusCon Stop! Hammertime. Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hel...err Pennsylvania Posts: 159	Eventually he's going to want the labels to be like Canadian cigarettes. You know the ones with pictures of infested lungs included and stuff. Right now we have the label resting in the corner and the title taking up everything else. He'll want to warning to be the title and the title in the corner.