'Sex in Shanghai' blog sparks international angst - bit-tech.net Forums

Da Dego · 31st Aug 2006, 15:39

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/08...ational_angst/

specofdust · 31st Aug 2006, 16:06

Haha, this is great. Nothing better then seeing idiots over-react to something that they could easily ignore. Decapatate all the women that this scoundrel has slept with to preserve the reputation of the city? Intresting idea there!

Hehe, gotta love shenangans.

Bindibadgi · 31st Aug 2006, 16:09

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Originally Posted by specofdust

Hehe, gotta love shanghaianegans.

Corrected.

olly_lewis · 31st Aug 2006, 17:18

Now that is a blog... I wonder is they'll ever find him? Though I doubt he is an actual teacher, but who knows... if he keeps his mouth shut he'll be OK, but I would love to meet the fella... sounds like a really funny bloke...
Great story

pjotero · 31st Aug 2006, 19:46

I agree with specofodust they are clearly overreacting

P.S. Could somebody explain the last word in the title?

Sinner666 · 31st Aug 2006, 19:48

It's really all quite funny. Had no idea that virginity was such a big thing for the chinese.

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Originally Posted by pjotero

P.S. Could somebody explain the last word in the title?

angst: a feeling of dread, anxiety, or anguish. (Per www.dictionary.com)

TheColdLord · 31st Aug 2006, 20:12

This is bulls**t. I mean decapitate everyone??? Have you lost you're damn mind? We are not in the middle ages Mr. Zhang. Where dose this guy (read capitan caveman) even get the idea that such a thing could be accepted? The net is a place where ppl are allowed to post whatever they want and whenever they want it. If you are dumb enough to believe everything that you hear than this is what happenes...... And this guy is a pshicology professor in a Shanghai Academy??? JEEEEZ

bahgger · 31st Aug 2006, 20:44

Way to jump on the bandwagon and start hating those westerners

This is the most stupid reaction I've seen from mainland Chinese so far, and it makes Chinese from other countries like myself ashamed :/

Cthippo · 31st Aug 2006, 21:52

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Originally Posted by TheColdLord

We are not in the middle ages Mr. Zhang. Where dose this guy (read capitan caveman) even get the idea that such a thing could be accepted?

Zhang didn't say anyone should be decapitated, someone posting on his blog did. I agree it's an overreaction, but so is the comments posted here about the story. The root cause is not to do with being Chineese or British or anything else, but as part of being human it is more enjoyable to get pissed off and throw a fit than to just say "meh, whatever".

DXR_13KE · 31st Aug 2006, 22:59

this = f***ing dumb

WW3 here we come.

Bindibadgi · 1st Sep 2006, 11:08

It's funny how people in this thread react just as OTT to a very few minority Chineese who are voicing about "the old ways".

China is not like the rest of the world, up until 2001 (iirc) homosexuality was considered a mental disorder and they are still VERY conservative about a lot of things. You cannot judge them with a western mentality. Another example is that rock and metal is banned, only love, pop and classical is 90+% listened to.

Atomic · 1st Sep 2006, 11:32

Is there a mirror of the original blog? Seems it is invite only now...

yahooadam · 1st Sep 2006, 20:12

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Originally Posted by Atomic

Is there a mirror of the original blog? Seems it is invite only now...

i wanted to see what it said too

Anyway, assuming this isn't true, then its pretty bad
If it is true, he was reporting the truth so ..... no grounds to complain, if Chinese women want to be all over western men, then that's their choice ...

Edit
Oh yeh - lol at TI

Quote:

The authors have decided to close the bog down because they are frightened for the safety of expatriates in Shanghai.

Firehed · 3rd Sep 2006, 03:37

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Originally Posted by yahooadam

i wanted to see what it said too

Anyway, assuming this isn't true, then its pretty bad
If it is true, he was reporting the truth so ..... no grounds to complain, if Chinese women want to be all over western men, then that's their choice ...

Edit
Oh yeh - lol at TI

l'INQ does that all the time. Just like 'Vole'... it's just one of their quirks.

casual · 4th Sep 2006, 21:17

check out the cache of chinabounder - then you know what he really said:

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache...r.blogspot.com

obviously, a guy with brains and knowledge, regardless wether right or wrong!

LARedneck · 22nd Oct 2006, 00:50

I am sorry I did not have the opportunity to read this much discussed Blog before its removal. Apparently, from what I can read, it MAY have been a hoax with intents unknown. Perhaps this was not a hoax. Regardless, it has apparently opened the floodgates of discussion on culture, racism, sexuality in China, etc. For these reasons only, it may be a good thing.

Dialogue here, or any forum, on matters of sexuality, politics, religion, the environment, human rights, cultures, etc. can only be a good thing. All people’s opinion has some merit.

I am an American planning to teach at a renown University in Shanghai in 2007. I hope to be able to, in some small way, help further alleviate the still present xenophobia that still exists in China. Before I am attacked, let me say this.

Socially China is about 30 years behind the USA, but trying So hard to close this gap. For decades, until the 1980’s, American white males were intimidated of the myth of the black man’s sexual endowment and prowess. Then they began to realize the myth was false and USA women, Asian women and women worldwide were less interested in myths than in a mans ability to commit to a long-term loving relationship, fidelity and his ability to provide for her and any children.

No country “owns” their native women. I suggest if any Chinese men feel intimidated or threatened by foreigners that they first stop, take a deep breath or two, and take a look at themselves and their peers. Maybe they should do extensive readings and research on Internet website and Blogs to read what their Chinese Sisters write about concerning their attitudes towards Chinese men. Take a hard look. Maybe you will not feel good, flattered, feel you have lost “Face”, etc. However, I submit, continuing to be in a state of denial will not solve any problems.

The Chinese male must understand their days as “The King, Emperor”, “Ruler of the Roost”, etc. are over in China. Chinese women are sexually liberated, a growing fixture in the workplace and not a second class sex to be kept at home when the man feels like playing with her. They have feelings, needs, choices and free to act on them.

I am sorry if I have offended anyone’s senses, feelings, etc. The fact remains, the subject of so much controversy was probably a hoax. If not, at very least it should evoke some serious thought and introspect.

31st Aug 2006, 15:39	#1
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specofdust Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Aberdeen, UK, EU Posts: 7,615	Haha, this is great. Nothing better then seeing idiots over-react to something that they could easily ignore. Decapatate all the women that this scoundrel has slept with to preserve the reputation of the city? Intresting idea there! Hehe, gotta love shenangans. __________________ Like marmite, only no-one hates it Mmm bop!

31st Aug 2006, 17:18	#4
olly_lewis Hypermodder Join Date: May 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 756	Now that is a blog... I wonder is they'll ever find him? Though I doubt he is an actual teacher, but who knows... if he keeps his mouth shut he'll be OK, but I would love to meet the fella... sounds like a really funny bloke... Great story __________________ My signature dumped me... ___________

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pjotero belgian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: to close to Relix Posts: 186	I agree with specofodust they are clearly overreacting P.S. Could somebody explain the last word in the title? __________________ to lazy to put anything meaningful here

31st Aug 2006, 20:12	#7
TheColdLord Multimodder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: @ Home:D Posts: 204	This is bulls**t. I mean decapitate everyone??? Have you lost you're damn mind? We are not in the middle ages Mr. Zhang. Where dose this guy (read capitan caveman) even get the idea that such a thing could be accepted? The net is a place where ppl are allowed to post whatever they want and whenever they want it. If you are dumb enough to believe everything that you hear than this is what happenes...... And this guy is a pshicology professor in a Shanghai Academy??? JEEEEZ __________________ I'm my own futures smith. xxx

31st Aug 2006, 20:44	#8
bahgger Supermodder Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 584	Way to jump on the bandwagon and start hating those westerners This is the most stupid reaction I've seen from mainland Chinese so far, and it makes Chinese from other countries like myself ashamed :/

31st Aug 2006, 22:59	#10
DXR_13KE Madeira's banana is the best!!! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Madeira ; Portugal Posts: 6,473	this = f*ing dumb WW3 here we come. __________________ Renegade X - 0.40 Release!** <---- CLICK!

1st Sep 2006, 11:08	#11
Bindibadgi Richard Swinburne bit-tech Staff Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Omnipwntent Posts: 28,270	It's funny how people in this thread react just as OTT to a very few minority Chineese who are voicing about "the old ways". China is not like the rest of the world, up until 2001 (iirc) homosexuality was considered a mental disorder and they are still VERY conservative about a lot of things. You cannot judge them with a western mentality. Another example is that rock and metal is banned, only love, pop and classical is 90+% listened to. __________________ Made you look, made you stare, made you clicked this in your underwear! Den of Geek!

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4th Sep 2006, 21:17	#15
casual What's a Dremel? Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1	here's chinabounder's blog, check it out on cache check out the cache of chinabounder - then you know what he really said: http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache...r.blogspot.com obviously, a guy with brains and knowledge, regardless wether right or wrong!

22nd Oct 2006, 00:50	#16
LARedneck What's a Dremel? Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1	Unfuounded Hysteria I am sorry I did not have the opportunity to read this much discussed Blog before its removal. Apparently, from what I can read, it MAY have been a hoax with intents unknown. Perhaps this was not a hoax. Regardless, it has apparently opened the floodgates of discussion on culture, racism, sexuality in China, etc. For these reasons only, it may be a good thing. Dialogue here, or any forum, on matters of sexuality, politics, religion, the environment, human rights, cultures, etc. can only be a good thing. All people’s opinion has some merit. I am an American planning to teach at a renown University in Shanghai in 2007. I hope to be able to, in some small way, help further alleviate the still present xenophobia that still exists in China. Before I am attacked, let me say this. Socially China is about 30 years behind the USA, but trying So hard to close this gap. For decades, until the 1980’s, American white males were intimidated of the myth of the black man’s sexual endowment and prowess. Then they began to realize the myth was false and USA women, Asian women and women worldwide were less interested in myths than in a mans ability to commit to a long-term loving relationship, fidelity and his ability to provide for her and any children. No country “owns” their native women. I suggest if any Chinese men feel intimidated or threatened by foreigners that they first stop, take a deep breath or two, and take a look at themselves and their peers. Maybe they should do extensive readings and research on Internet website and Blogs to read what their Chinese Sisters write about concerning their attitudes towards Chinese men. Take a hard look. Maybe you will not feel good, flattered, feel you have lost “Face”, etc. However, I submit, continuing to be in a state of denial will not solve any problems. The Chinese male must understand their days as “The King, Emperor”, “Ruler of the Roost”, etc. are over in China. Chinese women are sexually liberated, a growing fixture in the workplace and not a second class sex to be kept at home when the man feels like playing with her. They have feelings, needs, choices and free to act on them. I am sorry if I have offended anyone’s senses, feelings, etc. The fact remains, the subject of so much controversy was probably a hoax. If not, at very least it should evoke some serious thought and introspect.