Bully gets a name change - Canis Canem Edit - bit-tech.net Forums

Garside · 4th Sep 2006, 17:46

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/09...a_name_change/

ozstrike · 4th Sep 2006, 17:47

"read on to found out what it means."
Also, there doesn't appear to be a link to this thread in the story.
I don't think the title is as catchy as Bully. Probbly won't buy the game anyway, I thought GTA:SA was poor.

BoomAM · 4th Sep 2006, 17:53

I'd find it amusing if this Jack Thompson bloke was in the game, as something you have to beat up!

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EK-MDi · 4th Sep 2006, 18:01

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Originally Posted by BoomAM

I'd find it amusing if this Jack Thompson bloke was in the game, as something you have to beat up!

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Actually, beating people up is not the focus of this game.

Veles · 4th Sep 2006, 19:02

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Originally Posted by EK-MDi

Actually, beating people up is not the focus of this game.

I think it should be a bonus level.

jezmck · 4th Sep 2006, 19:04

I think 'Bullworth Academy' would have been better.

Actually, did they just go for a name which wouldn't need translating in foreign markets? What name would they have used elsewhere previously?

Edit: Rockstar have confirmed that this name change is only for the non-US market. I'm surprised, esp that it's not also for here in the UK too.

Firehed · 4th Sep 2006, 19:34

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Originally Posted by Veles

I think it should be a bonus level.

I'm OK.

DeX · 4th Sep 2006, 20:17

I reckon JackThompson won't see this as a victory on his part. He may claim he doesn't like the implications of a game named Bully and therefore want the name changed but in truth he is so blinded by the implications of a game previously named Bully that he won't be happy unless the game is pulled off the shelves.

And this isn't the first game with a Latin title. Has everyone completely forgotten about Deus Ex? (see the last Crysis thread)

yahooadam · 4th Sep 2006, 20:25

he will probably bitch about "now their trying to cover up what the game is about"

DarkReaper · 4th Sep 2006, 20:48

Now it's an educational tool as well, to get kids interested in latin. Cool

Nature · 4th Sep 2006, 23:09

Why is there contreversy over this game? What's the big deal?

DXR_13KE · 4th Sep 2006, 23:52

it is a "murder simulator" or a bully simulator.

CoolFox · 5th Sep 2006, 00:04

What does "Cogito ergo sum" mean? Hit me it i'm asking the obvious.

DeX · 5th Sep 2006, 00:07

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Originally Posted by CoolFox

What does "Cogito ergo sum" mean? Hit me it i'm asking the obvious.

It means "I think therefore I am". For some reason people feel the need to express the phrase in Latin though Descartes would of course originally have written it in French.

Laitainion · 5th Sep 2006, 00:49

On the contrary, at the time Descartes was really rocking the boat by writing his Discourse on Method in a vulgar language (ie. not Latin). It wasn't until a century later (if I've got my chronology right) that books (being written for the aristocracy and elite since the commoners were largely illiterate) were commonly written in languages other than Latin. Translating the bible was a massive issue around the same time.
Anywho, back to the Discourse, I had to read an English translation a couple of years ago, and Descarte used the Latin, and then translates it into English (via French and the people that translated the book). I presume that they preserved the Latin from the origional text.
[/history lesson]

CoolFox · 5th Sep 2006, 03:15

/me falls over with the history talk.

CoolFox +1 history after that post.

MiNiMaL_FuSS · 5th Sep 2006, 09:04

love the latin titles, "god from the machine" anyone.

Cthippo · 5th Sep 2006, 09:47

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Originally Posted by DeX

It means "I think therefore I am". For some reason people feel the need to express the phrase in Latin though Descartes would of course originally have written it in French.

Isn't it "Cognito ergo sum?" though?

quack · 5th Sep 2006, 10:14

Nope. Also, according to wikipedia the phrase "I think therefore I am" was originally expressed in French in Descartes's Discourse on Method, and only later was it translated into Latin. Thankfully "Cogito Ergo Sum" rolls off the tongue more easily than "Je pense, donc je suis".

Deus Ex Machina is one of my favourite Latin phrases... and a get-out clause for any writer.

DeX · 5th Sep 2006, 10:29

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Originally Posted by Cthippo

Isn't it "Cognito ergo sum?" though?

Quack got there first. Anyway Wikipedia is your friend.

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Laitainion Minimodder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Loughborough, UK Posts: 44	On the contrary, at the time Descartes was really rocking the boat by writing his Discourse on Method in a vulgar language (ie. not Latin). It wasn't until a century later (if I've got my chronology right) that books (being written for the aristocracy and elite since the commoners were largely illiterate) were commonly written in languages other than Latin. Translating the bible was a massive issue around the same time. Anywho, back to the Discourse, I had to read an English translation a couple of years ago, and Descarte used the Latin, and then translates it into English (via French and the people that translated the book). I presume that they preserved the Latin from the origional text. [/history lesson]

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