New group works to fix IE - bit-tech.net Forums

Da Dego · 25th Sep 2006, 16:38

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/09...rks_to_fix_IE/

DougEdey · 25th Sep 2006, 16:41

Whats the point with IE7 just round the corner?

_DTM2000_ · 25th Sep 2006, 16:50

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Originally Posted by DougEdey

Whats the point with IE7 just round the corner?

I guess this will cover all future versions, not just IE6. But I can't see many big companies using this. As a network administrator I know I'm dubious about the idea.

dire_wolf · 25th Sep 2006, 17:08

hmm, seems a little pointless, network admins won't touch these until they are proven, people in the meantime can find which holes the patches are plugging and exploit them

Nikumba · 25th Sep 2006, 17:10

Im with DTM2000, in a corp environment you cant get away installing a patch from a 3rd party esp when there are realase a patch for a closed bit of software such as IE.

A good sysadmin will know of the flaws exposed and if they system is setup correctly in throey be able to patch the hole with firewall rules or group police IE rules

Kimbie

DeX · 25th Sep 2006, 19:01

I agree that I can't see what kind of people would benefit from this ZERT group. Their main disadvantage is the lack of being able to automatically update IE. People who are concerned about browser security are likely to be already using Firefox or Opera. People such as big companies who force their employees to use IE are unlikely to endorse the use of unofficial patches and even if they did they are unlikely to go to the trouble of updating all their machines manually instead of waiting for the official patch to be automatically installed.

The only people I can think that would benefit from this are those that actually prefer IE over Firefox or Opera, or, those who somehow have enough concern about their browser security to have heard about these unofficial patches without hearing about the alternative browsers we have available. Somehow I think people from either of these two categories are very very few.

cpemma · 25th Sep 2006, 21:53

Back in the bad old days some MS patches gave a lot of people unforeseen problems; one for Office 2k (SP2 IIRC) was a lulu

. I used to always check the newsgroups for adverse comments before installing anything. Exactly the same will happen with these guys. We'll wait for some other muggins to be guinea-pig. But tbh I can't see there being many prepared to volunteer.

A recent survey found almost half the UK population don't even have recent virus defs, only 10% have a spam-stopper; those folk ain't going to know these guys exist.

Tyinsar · 26th Sep 2006, 05:32

my concern would be the 3rd party patches messing up things for the official patches when those finally come out. (but then again, I've been using FF since before it was FF)

mikeuk2004 · 26th Sep 2006, 12:23

Well if MS wont fix it when leaks are found then someone has to do it. This will just show up MS and embarrass them as they are too slow and lazy to fix problems they created and someone else out there has taken it on them selves to help them out.

Djpuk · 26th Sep 2006, 17:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikumba

Im with DTM2000, in a corp environment you cant get away installing a patch from a 3rd party esp when there are realase a patch for a closed bit of software such as IE.

A good sysadmin will know of the flaws exposed and if they system is setup correctly in throey be able to patch the hole with firewall rules or group police IE rules

Kimbie

Nuff said

25th Sep 2006, 16:38	#1
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25th Sep 2006, 17:08	#4
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25th Sep 2006, 19:01	#6
DeX Mube Codder Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 4,103	I agree that I can't see what kind of people would benefit from this ZERT group. Their main disadvantage is the lack of being able to automatically update IE. People who are concerned about browser security are likely to be already using Firefox or Opera. People such as big companies who force their employees to use IE are unlikely to endorse the use of unofficial patches and even if they did they are unlikely to go to the trouble of updating all their machines manually instead of waiting for the official patch to be automatically installed. The only people I can think that would benefit from this are those that actually prefer IE over Firefox or Opera, or, those who somehow have enough concern about their browser security to have heard about these unofficial patches without hearing about the alternative browsers we have available. Somehow I think people from either of these two categories are very very few. __________________ Play my game: Shyguy's Cave of Death! If you dont have the time to check your spelling and grammar, you dont have the time to post! -Liquid K9

25th Sep 2006, 21:53	#7
cpemma Ecky thump Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: S.Yorkshire, OK Posts: 12,333	Back in the bad old days some MS patches gave a lot of people unforeseen problems; one for Office 2k (SP2 IIRC) was a lulu . I used to always check the newsgroups for adverse comments before installing anything. Exactly the same will happen with these guys. We'll wait for some other muggins to be guinea-pig. But tbh I can't see there being many prepared to volunteer. A recent survey found almost half the UK population don't even have recent virus defs, only 10% have a spam-stopper; those folk ain't going to know these guys exist. __________________ Nobody's perfect. But being a Yorkshireman is as close as you can get.

25th Sep 2006, 17:10	#5
Nikumba Supermodder Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Dark Place Posts: 371	Im with DTM2000, in a corp environment you cant get away installing a patch from a 3rd party esp when there are realase a patch for a closed bit of software such as IE. A good sysadmin will know of the flaws exposed and if they system is setup correctly in throey be able to patch the hole with firewall rules or group police IE rules Kimbie

26th Sep 2006, 05:32	#8
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26th Sep 2006, 12:23	#9
mikeuk2004 What you Looking at Fool! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 3,049	Well if MS wont fix it when leaks are found then someone has to do it. This will just show up MS and embarrass them as they are too slow and lazy to fix problems they created and someone else out there has taken it on them selves to help them out. __________________ -\|- Xfire - Mikeuk2005 -\|- Xbox Live - Mike UK 2006 -\|- Playstation Network - Mikeuk2004 -\|-