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WilHarris · 25th Sep 2006, 22:49

Here's a place for discussing this week's announcements - we'll be keeping it up to date with the latest links on bit-tech.

IDF Fall 2006 Content Index

r4tch3t · 25th Sep 2006, 22:53

So is Intels next initiative to have optical LAN as standard on some chips in the future, as well as communication between cores?
Could this possible lead to the blade servers comunicating directly via a optic cable to the CPU of the next blade? Or something along those lines?

ozstrike · 25th Sep 2006, 23:01

OOH, the IDF has has started. Does that mean we get to find out more about the game server soon?

tank_rider · 25th Sep 2006, 23:46

What a coincidence this is, i was reading only this morning about a breakthrough in nanotubes with single atom wall thickness, now this, all good steps towards optical computing

and speed increaces for everyone.

Stacking cores is an interesting theory, would love to be doing some of the thermal work and modelling on that!!

DarkReaper · 26th Sep 2006, 01:26

Not happy with the DRM issue - since when was it ok for people to not own stuff they paid for?

Renting a flat or even a TV is one thing, and when you rent a DVD you know it has to go back - but renting music?

MortarHeadd · 26th Sep 2006, 04:19

If things keep going down this path (DRM) pretty soon, our TV's will have coin slots in them and require a nice chunk of change to turn on, and will only operate for the duration of a single show before we need to put more change in. Boy am I glad I do everything on my computers, at least them I have some control over.

Firehed · 26th Sep 2006, 04:43

I'll just take a moment to point out that 'tera' is three orders of magnitude above 'giga', not one as was implied in the snippet.

As to DRM, screw it. I refuse to buy content with DRM, full stop. I'll take freebies (25 songs a week from apple for being on facebook? sure), but I won't pay a cent for them. CDs, thanks - and I'm hesitant to get even those now. I'd bring movies into the picture, but there's hardly anything worth watching now. And TV shows... I consider bit-torrenting them fair use, since I could just as easily have recorded them in a number of formats, seeing that I pay for access to the networks (albeit indirectly).

Tyinsar · 26th Sep 2006, 06:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Wennblom from Intel's Standards and Regulations group

"There needs to be a balance between the rights of consumers so that they can exercise their legal rights, and the developers and owners of those content. We didn't intend to emphasise one over the other. We don't believe you need a legal mandate to do that."

Frankly that scares me. Corporations own all the content? How long before music & movies come with the same EULA as software? (You own the disk, they let you use the content as they choose and can revoke that as they see fit)

Quote:

Originally Posted by MortarHeadd

If things keep going down this path (DRM) pretty soon, our TV's will have coin slots in them and require a nice chunk of change to turn on, and will only operate for the duration of a single show before we need to put more change in....

Like this?

Tyinsar · 26th Sep 2006, 06:23

from here and here

Oh, wait, I see you knew this in post 1

- but it is a little confusing since you have 2 topics in one thread.

Tyinsar · 26th Sep 2006, 06:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Article

Intel .... It's also adamant that we will see 10s of cores on processors over the next couple of decades.

Isn't this the same Intel that predicted 10Ghz from "Netburst" in the very near future?

DougEdey · 26th Sep 2006, 08:07

This misconception of the industry that if you provide it, no matter the cost, you will sell it. Needs to be destroyed. DRM is getting stupid now, in the good old days you would buy software/music under the condition that you did not alter it to make money off it.

Now they are saying you are renting music? Then reducing the ***********************^&%^$£^%$ prices.

ChromeX · 26th Sep 2006, 08:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyinsar

Isn't this the same Intel that predicted 10Ghz from "Netburst" in the very near future?

Thats different, the scalability was there but Intel decided it'd be much more effecient to develop an architecture that did more work per clock cycle. Probably one of the best moves they've ever done!

Cthippo · 26th Sep 2006, 10:51

Look at who Intel's customers are. Sure, they sell some processors more or less directly to customers, but the vast majority of their output goes to companies, not consumers. They are not going to risk pissing off the people who can actually do them harm to placate the end user who basically has little or no impact on their business.

Tim S · 26th Sep 2006, 12:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyinsar

from here and here

Oh, wait, I see you knew this in post 1

- but it is a little confusing since you have 2 topics in one thread.

it's a thread dedicated to IDF coverage.

DXR_13KE · 26th Sep 2006, 13:28

ok.... DRM on cpu chips? please enlighten me.

DougEdey · 26th Sep 2006, 13:29

Wait, since when did Bit-Tech go American?

We're English, its AUTUMN

r4tch3t · 26th Sep 2006, 13:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by DXR_13KE

ok.... DRM on cpu chips? please enlighten me.

Two seperate articles, the first is about tera-scale computing, the second is MPAA/RIAA wanting no one to own anything they buy ala DRM.

Cthippo · 26th Sep 2006, 13:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by DXR_13KE

ok.... DRM on cpu chips? please enlighten me.

I think the words you're looking for are "Trusted Computing Module"

Da Dego · 26th Sep 2006, 14:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by DougEdey

Wait, since when did Bit-Tech go American?

We're English, its AUTUMN

lol...what's worse is I'm the only American on editorial staff, and I didn't write this

I always say autumn. But that's from dealing with all you stuffy brits!

Tim S · 26th Sep 2006, 14:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by DougEdey

Wait, since when did Bit-Tech go American?

We're English, its AUTUMN

The trade show is called "Intel Developer Forum - Fall 2006"

25th Sep 2006, 22:49	#1
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26th Sep 2006, 04:19	#6
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26th Sep 2006, 01:26	#5
DarkReaper Alignment: Sarcastic Good Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Belfast, NI Posts: 1,750	Not happy with the DRM issue - since when was it ok for people to not own stuff they paid for? Renting a flat or even a TV is one thing, and when you rent a DVD you know it has to go back - but renting music?

26th Sep 2006, 04:43	#7
Firehed Why not? I own a domain to match. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: An hour north of Boston Posts: 12,576	I'll just take a moment to point out that 'tera' is three orders of magnitude above 'giga', not one as was implied in the snippet. As to DRM, screw it. I refuse to buy content with DRM, full stop. I'll take freebies (25 songs a week from apple for being on facebook? sure), but I won't pay a cent for them. CDs, thanks - and I'm hesitant to get even those now. I'd bring movies into the picture, but there's hardly anything worth watching now. And TV shows... I consider bit-torrenting them fair use, since I could just as easily have recorded them in a number of formats, seeing that I pay for access to the networks (albeit indirectly). __________________ hire me @ eric-stern.com - web developer and php ninja pics @ my smugmug :: Twitter @firehed :: blog @ firehed.net 40D\|580EXII\|285HV\|AB800\|70-200f/4LIS\|17-50f/2.8\|150f/2.8Macro\|50f/1.8 MacPro @ 8x2.8GHz, 10GB FBDDR2, 3TB HD :: MBP @ 2x2.2GHz, 4GB DDR2, 320GB HD

26th Sep 2006, 06:23	#9
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26th Sep 2006, 08:07	#11
DougEdey I pwn all your storage Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Southampton Posts: 13,933	This misconception of the industry that if you provide it, no matter the cost, you will sell it. Needs to be destroyed. DRM is getting stupid now, in the good old days you would buy software/music under the condition that you did not alter it to make money off it. Now they are saying you are renting music? Then reducing the ***********************^&%^$£^%$ prices. __________________ Burnout: Paradise Stats!XBL: DougEdey Bindi PSN ID: DougEdey Twitter

26th Sep 2006, 10:51	#13
Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 4,455	Look at who Intel's customers are. Sure, they sell some processors more or less directly to customers, but the vast majority of their output goes to companies, not consumers. They are not going to risk pissing off the people who can actually do them harm to placate the end user who basically has little or no impact on their business. __________________ Notice: If we see you flaming we will assume you are on fire and take appropriate measures - The Bit-Tech Fire Brigade. I've never questioned what I believe anyways and I dont think I need to. But im not just some sheep following the others. ~ Talladega

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26th Sep 2006, 13:29	#16
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