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WilHarris · 6th Oct 2006, 13:12

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/10...month_is_done/

rupbert · 6th Oct 2006, 13:27

The 'over in the forums' link is broke.

-- Fixing, thanks! - Da Dego

The cheapskate · 6th Oct 2006, 13:34

Do you think the site will disappear before October is done? Or does Russia have little chance of joining the WTO with or without the interference? Let us know what you think [url=http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?p=1341351[/url]over in the forums.

meh...

Cthippo · 6th Oct 2006, 13:48

What does it say about the state of international relations when one rather unimportant website can hang up somthing like Russia's WTO bid? Allofmp3.com has proven that the model can work and be profitable, so there is little doubt in my mind that it or somthing very much like it will be around for a long time.

The cheapskate · 6th Oct 2006, 14:20

Yes but on that note the original napster (illegal one) was profitable, and got closed down, along with most of the decent pier to pier networks (As far as I am aware)

Remember that less and less countries want these sites hosted in there own borders, take Sweden and the pirate bay for example..

I'm not sure all of mp3 will last, I think eventually they will disappear, as yes they are profitable, but I'm 99% sure the original artist makes nothing from a 12p song sale. hence the only reason they are profitable is because they are not paying royalties, make them start, and the price goes up, if they refuse, they will be taken off line.

just my 2pence...

MiNiMaL_FuSS · 6th Oct 2006, 15:03

what happened to that legal add-supported free MP3 download site that was mentioned in the bit-tech new some month ago?

aggies11 · 6th Oct 2006, 16:02

Does that mean it's time to "get it before it's gone"?

Cue the madrush to an allofmp3 downloading orgy!

Aggies

Vigfus · 6th Oct 2006, 16:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by rupbert

The 'over in the forums' link is broke.

Still is.

Sweden doesn't want TPB? Just you wait until the case is settled. Piracy will prevail!

DXR_13KE · 6th Oct 2006, 16:21

this is very bad for democracy and the liberty of everyone that wants to listen to some music.

and this is all because of a democracy and liberty loving country.

ch424 · 6th Oct 2006, 16:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by DXR_13KE

this is very bad for democracy and the liberty of everyone that wants to listen to some music.

How does that make sense?

specofdust · 6th Oct 2006, 16:28

Russia isn't the fairest of places so I'm inclined to agree with Wil that if Russia want into the WTO(which they do) allofmp3 will just stop existing.

Next stop, China!

steveo_mcg · 6th Oct 2006, 16:42

I can just see them tunning under/through/over the great firewall of China

DXR_13KE · 6th Oct 2006, 17:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by ch424

How does that make sense?

let me help:

Quote:

"this is very bad for democracy and the liberty

in teory you are free to buy music and use it as you wish, this is a liberty, you are also able to vote with your wallet when you buy or dont buy an album so there you have the democracy part.

today you cant do what you wish with the music you buy because of the excessive DRM, and even if you dont buy the album (a vote for the box "change your ways, something is very wrong") they dont do anything and/or make everything worse, and blame piracy and go off pulling strings in the government making big countries (USA) bully other smaller countries (Russia).

Quote:

of everyone that wants to listen to some music.

me, you and everyone.

edit:

Quote:

Originally Posted by specofdust

Next stop, China!

good luck

M3G4 · 6th Oct 2006, 17:51

They moan at us for downloading "free music" so we go over to the paysites.

BAM

We're wrong again.

Tyinsar · 6th Oct 2006, 17:54

I don't know why Russia wants into the WTO so badly - Even with international agreements nations bend the rules anyway: Every time international courts have ruled against the USA on softwood lumber trade with Canada some USA senator tries another tactic - which is almost always - eventually - ruled as illegal. I'm not trying to attack the USA - it's just the first example that comes to mind. The second example is the eastern oil cartels: in most western nations their tactics would be rule as illegal market manipulation (as would much of what De-Beers has done in the diamond trade). Though I suppose getting into the rule making body not only helps Russia to influence some rules but also gives them a little more prestige.

Once Russia (or any nation) gets in can they be kicked out?

Stuey · 6th Oct 2006, 18:03

DXR, Russia is not a smaller country. As far as I can see, it's about money and not bullying.

Is this all about this one single website in particular, or similar sites as well? B/c it does seem awfully petty to stop everything on account of one single website.

DXR_13KE · 6th Oct 2006, 19:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuey83

DXR, Russia is not a smaller country. As far as I can see, it's about money and not bullying.

when i say smaller i mean in terms of money and power...... sorry if i was not specific.

edit: and i hope they change your name to what you want.

Tyinsar · 6th Oct 2006, 19:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuey83

HAHAHA. Thanks for making me laugh - some tears came out! I thought of doing that, but then I too would suffer some abuse at the hands of Evil Bindi!

specofdust · 6th Oct 2006, 20:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by DXR_13KE

when i say smaller i mean in terms of money and power...... sorry if i was not specific.

edit: and i hope they change your name to what you want.

Russia aren't as small in money or power as many people seem to think. The USSR may have broken up, but the ruskies have retained a good chunk of the power they had back then. They're oil and gun rich, with decent positioning in the UN and plenty of support from local countries and china.

Of course if the US say they don't get into the WTO without shutting down allofmp3 I don't see russia caring. Allofmp3 won't be anything important to the russian govt. I don't imagine, and shutting it down wouldn't be a problem legally or morally for 'em either. The only reason I can see they'd object would be if they saw it as an attack on their right to do what they want within their borders, but I doubt they'd be that stupid.

Sim0n · 6th Oct 2006, 20:44

I love forums threads like this, coz you can tell the people that are gunna suffer the most if AOMP3 dies, coz your all trying to say its wrong to take it down.

Its fairly obvious, your paying £0.80-1.50 an album, once you take a)the webservers rental, b) the bandwidth bills, c) the "staffs" time to rip all the albums and maintain the site.

You think the artist is seeing a single penny of that ?

6th Oct 2006, 13:12	#1
WilHarris Just another nobody Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Oxford Posts: 2,671	All Of MP3 could be dead before the month is out http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/10...month_is_done/

6th Oct 2006, 13:27	#2
rupbert Hypermodder Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 799	The 'over in the forums' link is broke. -- Fixing, thanks! - Da Dego Last edited by Da Dego; 6th Oct 2006 at 16:13.

6th Oct 2006, 13:48	#4
Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 4,459	What does it say about the state of international relations when one rather unimportant website can hang up somthing like Russia's WTO bid? Allofmp3.com has proven that the model can work and be profitable, so there is little doubt in my mind that it or somthing very much like it will be around for a long time. __________________ Notice: If we see you flaming we will assume you are on fire and take appropriate measures - The Bit-Tech Fire Brigade.

6th Oct 2006, 15:03	#6
MiNiMaL_FuSS I Mod, Therefore I Own Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Posts: 3,067	what happened to that legal add-supported free MP3 download site that was mentioned in the bit-tech new some month ago? __________________ -Yesterday is History, Tomorrow is a Mystery, Take the Present as a Gift-

6th Oct 2006, 16:21	#9
DXR_13KE Madeira's banana is the best!!! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Madeira ; Portugal Posts: 6,466	this is very bad for democracy and the liberty of everyone that wants to listen to some music. and this is all because of a democracy and liberty loving country. __________________ *Renegade X - 0.40 Release!* <---- CLICK!

6th Oct 2006, 13:34	#3
The cheapskate One custom title before Matty Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Near liverpool Posts: 885	Do you think the site will disappear before October is done? Or does Russia have little chance of joining the WTO with or without the interference? Let us know what you think [url=http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?p=1341351[/url]over in the forums. meh...

6th Oct 2006, 14:20	#5
The cheapskate One custom title before Matty Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Near liverpool Posts: 885	Yes but on that note the original napster (illegal one) was profitable, and got closed down, along with most of the decent pier to pier networks (As far as I am aware) Remember that less and less countries want these sites hosted in there own borders, take Sweden and the pirate bay for example.. I'm not sure all of mp3 will last, I think eventually they will disappear, as yes they are profitable, but I'm 99% sure the original artist makes nothing from a 12p song sale. hence the only reason they are profitable is because they are not paying royalties, make them start, and the price goes up, if they refuse, they will be taken off line. just my 2pence...

6th Oct 2006, 16:02	#7
aggies11 Multimodder Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 171	Does that mean it's time to "get it before it's gone"? Cue the madrush to an allofmp3 downloading orgy! Aggies

6th Oct 2006, 16:28	#11
specofdust Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Aberdeen, UK, EU Posts: 7,609	Russia isn't the fairest of places so I'm inclined to agree with Wil that if Russia want into the WTO(which they do) allofmp3 will just stop existing. Next stop, China! __________________ Like marmite, only no-one hates it Mmm bop!

6th Oct 2006, 16:42	#12
steveo_mcg What owl? Join Date: May 2005 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 3,979	I can just see them tunning under/through/over the great firewall of China __________________ No boom today, boom tomorrow... there's always a boom tomorrow.

6th Oct 2006, 17:51	#14
M3G4 talkie walkie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 1,757	They moan at us for downloading "free music" so we go over to the paysites. BAM We're wrong again.

6th Oct 2006, 17:54	#15
Tyinsar 6 screens / 1 card Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: AB.CA Posts: 2,005	I don't know why Russia wants into the WTO so badly - Even with international agreements nations bend the rules anyway: Every time international courts have ruled against the USA on softwood lumber trade with Canada some USA senator tries another tactic - which is almost always - eventually - ruled as illegal. I'm not trying to attack the USA - it's just the first example that comes to mind. The second example is the eastern oil cartels: in most western nations their tactics would be rule as illegal market manipulation (as would much of what De-Beers has done in the diamond trade). Though I suppose getting into the rule making body not only helps Russia to influence some rules but also gives them a little more prestige. Once Russia (or any nation) gets in can they be kicked out? __________________ It's not about how life treats you, it's about how you treat life.

6th Oct 2006, 18:03	#16
Stuey You will be defenestrated! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NYC & NJ Posts: 2,484	DXR, Russia is not a smaller country. As far as I can see, it's about money and not bullying. Is this all about this one single website in particular, or similar sites as well? B/c it does seem awfully petty to stop everything on account of one single website. __________________ ToolGuyd

6th Oct 2006, 20:44	#20
Sim0n Ahhh Jimlad Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 1,109	I love forums threads like this, coz you can tell the people that are gunna suffer the most if AOMP3 dies, coz your all trying to say its wrong to take it down. Its fairly obvious, your paying £0.80-1.50 an album, once you take a)the webservers rental, b) the bandwidth bills, c) the "staffs" time to rip all the albums and maintain the site. You think the artist is seeing a single penny of that ?