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Garside · 17th Oct 2006, 11:20

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/10...le_on_Myspace/

DougEdey · 17th Oct 2006, 11:25

What are they going todo check addresses? That'll be fun!

Surely this kind of code could be incorporated to myspace and regular checks performed.

bright_ · 17th Oct 2006, 11:30

It sounds rather iffy, especially when some of the people it "found" weren't even on the site. Checks like this should be performed though, especially from the looks of the last person =\

rupbert · 17th Oct 2006, 11:36

Whilst this is abhorrent, I fear the expected knee-jerk reaction from the media in general:

"Ban the internet", "MySpace a breeding ground for perverts" etc...

korhojoa · 17th Oct 2006, 13:31

I wish myspace did these searches themselves.

Silence · 17th Oct 2006, 13:42

This article reminded me of how one newspaper in the UK launched their own paedophile 'stings' by having a journalist pretend to be a young (less than 16) girl. They allegedly caught some guy who was apparently talking inappropriately about sex with the undercover journo, and trying to meet them. The newspaper then informed the police, who apparently had approximately less than a few days to perform a full investigation before the newspaper ran the 'name and shame' story.

Imagine the mess to someone's life if they were proven innocent, but the paper had ran with the story. No public apology would ever undo the damage of having been labelled a 'dirty paedo' to the nation.

In my opinion, if MySpace, Bebo or any other community sight were to ask for names and addresses of all users, so that they could check sex offender registers, it would only cause a bad reaction from those who complain about giving up personal details to websites, as the true paedophiles would use false details.

Lucidity · 17th Oct 2006, 14:18

Well there is a better way to solve this problem, when the paedos are convicted they get the death sentence, plain and simple. To me rape and sexual abuse are the some of the worst things you can do to a person, much less a child. It is a shame that we let these sick ****s back into society, especially when tests show that most cannot be rehabilitated.

DXR_13KE · 17th Oct 2006, 14:35

dont tell this to jack tompson!!!!! or else he will ban the internet. (it is poluting the minds of the kids).

castrate all paedophiles!!!!!!! and if they do it again but them in jail for life and make them do forced labor and get gang raped by other prisioners.

Silence · 17th Oct 2006, 15:39

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Originally Posted by Lucidity

It is a shame that we let these sick ****s back into society, especially when tests show that most cannot be rehabilitated.

I'll skip the death-penalty rant and move on to this statement. You say most cannot be rehabilitated, implying then that some can. Trouble is, despite even the best psych-analysis, it's damn near impossibe to tell whether or not a supposedly 'cured' offender woud re-offend. However, could you punish ALL convicted offenders who have served their time in order to prevent 'some' from re-offending?

ChromeX · 17th Oct 2006, 16:20

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Originally Posted by Silence

However, could you punish ALL convicted offenders who have served their time in order to prevent 'some' from re-offending?

Yeah damn right you could!! Its a disgusting crime probably the worst you can commit, the people who commit them should be hung plain and simple. To hell with rehabilitation!

sadffffff · 17th Oct 2006, 16:23

naw, scanning for registered sex offenders isnt going to solve anything. 1 out of 500? and that of REGISTERED sex offenders. think of how many pedo's out there that arent. having myspace do this or some hacker turned writer trying to generate some media attention isnt going to help a thing.

the problem here is the kid's parents. theyre not violating their kid's privacy enough plain and simple. they should be prying into everything they do on the internet. "oh my kid is talking to a 40 year old man an awfull lot...AND theyre talking about some weiiird stuff that a kid his age probably should be talking about? HMMMMM?!". Lazy worthless parents. Heres the internet kids. you can find ANYTHING and ANYONE there. heres some personal bloggin sites and chat programs. Good now theyre occupied and i can go and not do my job as a parent now. *sarchastic applause*

as for killing sex offenders? come on, what a knee jerk unthought-out reaction. pitty them, theyre mentally ill. and be upset at the system for likely having made no effort to cure them other than throw them in jail.

aggies11 · 17th Oct 2006, 16:39

Well, this argument is more politics than it is tech (which means it's a dangerous topic for a message board

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but is anyone surprised?

The problem here (if you believe there is a problem) is not myspace, but the fact that these sex offenders are at large in the public, free to do what they want (ie. re-offend).

"Filtering" myspace, doesn't stop the problem. You'd have to reform the criminal justice system to do that.

Aggies

supermonkey · 17th Oct 2006, 16:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by sadffffff

the problem here is the kid's parents. theyre not violating their kid's privacy enough plain and simple. they should be prying into everything they do on the internet. "oh my kid is talking to a 40 year old man an awfull lot...AND theyre talking about some weiiird stuff that a kid his age probably should be talking about? HMMMMM?!". Lazy worthless parents. Heres the internet kids. you can find ANYTHING and ANYONE there. heres some personal bloggin sites and chat programs. Good now theyre occupied and i can go and not do my job as a parent now. *sarchastic applause*

as for killing sex offenders? come on, what a knee jerk unthought-out reaction. pitty them, theyre mentally ill. and be upset at the system for likely having made no effort to cure them other than throw them in jail.

^^ What he said.

-monkey

Ramble · 17th Oct 2006, 17:10

Jesus, don't kill them or castrate them, that's an extremely bad idea, and it wouldn't stop much - they just couldn't have sex.

And what if you're convicted but innocent? Whoops, you've just lost your genitals, sorry.

Adnuo · 17th Oct 2006, 17:31

Rap sheet

Anyone else find it funny that under Ethnicity all it lists is "Not Hispanic"? That must be all that matters then... As long as you're not Hispanic you're fine!

Gunsmith · 17th Oct 2006, 18:05

"...suddenly north was ablaze, dancing to the beat of primitive animal justice"

Vergil_117 · 17th Oct 2006, 20:58

Lately I've found myspace to do as little as possible, just so he can keep up new user counts, that even includes never really deleting the old accounts that some users unregister. Just so they can keep a high so called user count.

Cthippo · 17th Oct 2006, 21:25

So for all that work they found one person who was demonstrably doing somthing untoward? Out of how many MILLION MySpace users? Hell, that probably makes MySpace the SAFEST place on the net.

The problem (as I see it) is that people think that they can be safe and can keep their children safe. Guess what, you can't get over it. The world is a dangeroud place, bas stuff happens, even to children. If you want to give up your rights, go ahead, but leave everyone elses alone.

:EDIT: Somthing else that just occoured to me...

"Protect the children" is a lot like the "War on terror". They're both meaningless justifications for, well, pretty much anything. I think it's pretty sad that we live in a society with such a tenious grip on civilization that we would agree with the torture and castration of people based on a few meaningless words.

saeghwin · 17th Oct 2006, 21:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by rupbert

Whilst this is abhorrent, I fear the expected knee-jerk reaction from the media in general:

"Ban the internet", "MySpace a breeding ground for perverts" etc...

Wouldn't that be weird if people just stopped using the internet...I never even thought of that. I wonder what future versions of internet-like communication we will have.

quack · 17th Oct 2006, 22:35

One of my friends has been living with the knowledge that her daughter's abuser was able to keep roaming the streets after being picked up time and time again by the police. He was caught by the police trying to rape her 15 year old daughter in his car. He wasn't locked up for long though.

He had a pretty long record, mostly related to child molestation, and lived with his mother near a school which was against the conditions of his parole. The police did next to nothing about that.

He would track her daughter down and try to talk to her, laugh at her, basically stalked her. Neither my friend nor her daughter have been able to leave the house much, alone, in case they bumped into him. 2 long years have gone by since he was first caught with her daughter.

---

Until a few days ago... she found he had a myspace page, complete with pictures of underage girls, some of which are/were 7-8 years old. She told the police and the FBI got involved. They got a warrant to search his house and found a lot more than was on his myspace - he was arrested, and now indicted in a federal court on over 200 counts of child pornography and charges pending on child molestation. He faces a considerable amount of jail time.

Finally some justice.

17th Oct 2006, 11:20	#1
Garside Supermodder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London Posts: 395	How to catch a paedophile on Myspace http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/10...le_on_Myspace/

17th Oct 2006, 11:25	#2
DougEdey I pwn all your storage Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Southampton Posts: 13,933	What are they going todo check addresses? That'll be fun! Surely this kind of code could be incorporated to myspace and regular checks performed. __________________ Burnout: Paradise Stats!XBL: DougEdey Bindi PSN ID: DougEdey Twitter

17th Oct 2006, 13:31	#5
korhojoa Multimodder Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Vaasa, Finland Posts: 149	I wish myspace did these searches themselves. __________________ the world is not enough, i gotta have modding too.

17th Oct 2006, 13:42	#6
Silence Multimodder Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: UK Posts: 190	This article reminded me of how one newspaper in the UK launched their own paedophile 'stings' by having a journalist pretend to be a young (less than 16) girl. They allegedly caught some guy who was apparently talking inappropriately about sex with the undercover journo, and trying to meet them. The newspaper then informed the police, who apparently had approximately less than a few days to perform a full investigation before the newspaper ran the 'name and shame' story. Imagine the mess to someone's life if they were proven innocent, but the paper had ran with the story. No public apology would ever undo the damage of having been labelled a 'dirty paedo' to the nation. In my opinion, if MySpace, Bebo or any other community sight were to ask for names and addresses of all users, so that they could check sex offender registers, it would only cause a bad reaction from those who complain about giving up personal details to websites, as the true paedophiles would use false details. __________________ If you can't take a joke, you have no business having a heart condition.

17th Oct 2006, 14:18	#7
Lucidity Multimodder Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: NC Posts: 139	Well there is a better way to solve this problem, when the paedos are convicted they get the death sentence, plain and simple. To me rape and sexual abuse are the some of the worst things you can do to a person, much less a child. It is a shame that we let these sick ****s back into society, especially when tests show that most cannot be rehabilitated. __________________ [size=1]AMD 64 6000+ X2, Asus M2N SLI Deluxe, 4 GBs of Corsair XMS 6400 ram, Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS 320mb

17th Oct 2006, 11:30	#3
bright_ Minimodder Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 37	It sounds rather iffy, especially when some of the people it "found" weren't even on the site. Checks like this should be performed though, especially from the looks of the last person =\

17th Oct 2006, 11:36	#4
rupbert Hypermodder Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 799	Whilst this is abhorrent, I fear the expected knee-jerk reaction from the media in general: "Ban the internet", "MySpace a breeding ground for perverts" etc...

17th Oct 2006, 14:35	#8
DXR_13KE Madeira's banana is the best!!! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Madeira ; Portugal Posts: 6,466	dont tell this to jack tompson!!!!! or else he will ban the internet. (it is poluting the minds of the kids). castrate all paedophiles!!!!!!! and if they do it again but them in jail for life and make them do forced labor and get gang raped by other prisioners. __________________ *Renegade X - 0.40 Release!* <---- CLICK!

17th Oct 2006, 16:23	#11
sadffffff Hypermodder Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: sadffffff Posts: 676	naw, scanning for registered sex offenders isnt going to solve anything. 1 out of 500? and that of REGISTERED sex offenders. think of how many pedo's out there that arent. having myspace do this or some hacker turned writer trying to generate some media attention isnt going to help a thing. the problem here is the kid's parents. theyre not violating their kid's privacy enough plain and simple. they should be prying into everything they do on the internet. "oh my kid is talking to a 40 year old man an awfull lot...AND theyre talking about some weiiird stuff that a kid his age probably should be talking about? HMMMMM?!". Lazy worthless parents. Heres the internet kids. you can find ANYTHING and ANYONE there. heres some personal bloggin sites and chat programs. Good now theyre occupied and i can go and not do my job as a parent now. sarchastic applause as for killing sex offenders? come on, what a knee jerk unthought-out reaction. pitty them, theyre mentally ill. and be upset at the system for likely having made no effort to cure them other than throw them in jail.

17th Oct 2006, 16:39	#12
aggies11 Multimodder Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 171	Well, this argument is more politics than it is tech (which means it's a dangerous topic for a message board , but is anyone surprised? The problem here (if you believe there is a problem) is not myspace, but the fact that these sex offenders are at large in the public, free to do what they want (ie. re-offend). "Filtering" myspace, doesn't stop the problem. You'd have to reform the criminal justice system to do that. Aggies

17th Oct 2006, 17:10	#14
Ramble Ginger Nut Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Exeter, Devon/Wantage, Oxfordshire Posts: 5,234	Jesus, don't kill them or castrate them, that's an extremely bad idea, and it wouldn't stop much - they just couldn't have sex. And what if you're convicted but innocent? Whoops, you've just lost your genitals, sorry. __________________ Kirk, Spock, McCoy, and Ensign Ricky are beaming down to the planet. Guess who's not coming back.

17th Oct 2006, 17:31	#15
Adnuo Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 489	Rap sheet Anyone else find it funny that under Ethnicity all it lists is "Not Hispanic"? That must be all that matters then... As long as you're not Hispanic you're fine!

17th Oct 2006, 18:05	#16
Gunsmith my supersonic radar will help me! Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,394	"...suddenly north was ablaze, dancing to the beat of primitive animal justice"

17th Oct 2006, 20:58	#17
Vergil_117 Multimodder Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 71	Lately I've found myspace to do as little as possible, just so he can keep up new user counts, that even includes never really deleting the old accounts that some users unregister. Just so they can keep a high so called user count.

17th Oct 2006, 21:25	#18
Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 4,459	So for all that work they found one person who was demonstrably doing somthing untoward? Out of how many MILLION MySpace users? Hell, that probably makes MySpace the SAFEST place on the net. The problem (as I see it) is that people think that they can be safe and can keep their children safe. Guess what, you can't get over it. The world is a dangeroud place, bas stuff happens, even to children. If you want to give up your rights, go ahead, but leave everyone elses alone. :EDIT: Somthing else that just occoured to me... "Protect the children" is a lot like the "War on terror". They're both meaningless justifications for, well, pretty much anything. I think it's pretty sad that we live in a society with such a tenious grip on civilization that we would agree with the torture and castration of people based on a few meaningless words. __________________ Notice: If we see you flaming we will assume you are on fire and take appropriate measures - The Bit-Tech Fire Brigade. Last edited by Cthippo; 17th Oct 2006 at 21:38. Reason: Additional thought

17th Oct 2006, 22:35	#20
quack \o/ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: England Posts: 5,220	One of my friends has been living with the knowledge that her daughter's abuser was able to keep roaming the streets after being picked up time and time again by the police. He was caught by the police trying to rape her 15 year old daughter in his car. He wasn't locked up for long though. He had a pretty long record, mostly related to child molestation, and lived with his mother near a school which was against the conditions of his parole. The police did next to nothing about that. He would track her daughter down and try to talk to her, laugh at her, basically stalked her. Neither my friend nor her daughter have been able to leave the house much, alone, in case they bumped into him. 2 long years have gone by since he was first caught with her daughter. --- Until a few days ago... she found he had a myspace page, complete with pictures of underage girls, some of which are/were 7-8 years old. She told the police and the FBI got involved. They got a warrant to search his house and found a lot more than was on his myspace - he was arrested, and now indicted in a federal court on over 200 counts of child pornography and charges pending on child molestation. He faces a considerable amount of jail time. Finally some justice. __________________ Denying Rights to Music lovers. Denying Rights to Movie lovers.