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Da Dego · 18th Oct 2006, 18:32

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/10...n_iPod_coming/

Lazarus Dark · 18th Oct 2006, 18:55

I might consider an ipod if it had hdmi and svideo out and at least a hundred gig drive. till then I find such small video devices of little use.

_DTM2000_ · 18th Oct 2006, 18:56

Will we get a free virus with this one too?

M4RTIN · 18th Oct 2006, 19:00

personally i dont like touchscreen devices when they are n everyday thing, i had a touchscreen phone and the screen got scratched and ruined. okay i could have got a screen protector but at the end of the day the touch screen gave no benefits over a good key layout.

EQC · 18th Oct 2006, 19:09

at this point, it seems like Apple has to produce a touch-screen video Ipod similar to all the mock-ups eventually. Either that, or produce something better (bigger screen, more sleek and stylish somehow, maybe one of those roll-up screens that have been 'just around the corner' for the last 3 years, etc).

The real question to me is: did Apple think of the idea first, or did they get the idea from all the rumors and photoshopped pictures that showed up on the web?

Fod · 18th Oct 2006, 19:13

if this device is released, don't be surprised to see the mini, or something along those lines (slightly smaller, cheaper than touchPod, but more space than nano) being reintroduced.

a lot of people just want a nice mp3 player - video does nothing for em.

mclean007 · 18th Oct 2006, 20:01

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Originally Posted by Fod

a lot of people just want a nice mp3 player - video does nothing for em.

Which is the iPod's strength, and IMHO they should stick to it. The problem is they've already started to transition with the fairly pointless video capabilities of the current iPod - I really don't understand who is paying $2 a go to watch Lost on a postage stamp. If they're serious about video, and if they ever intend to do full length features, a screen covering the full face of the device is essential.

mclean007 · 18th Oct 2006, 20:03

As a matter of interest, why do you say it would require "too much storage space" - 480p video in decent quality using h264 could easily be 1-2GB/hour. That gives a fairly decent capacity on an 80 gig device like the current top end 5.5g iPod.

shomann · 18th Oct 2006, 20:12

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Originally Posted by mclean007

As a matter of interest, why do you say it would require "too much storage space" - 480p video in decent quality using h264 could easily be 1-2GB/hour. That gives a fairly decent capacity on an 80 gig device like the current top end 5.5g iPod.

Heck, I bet the file size could be smaller than that - 2hr long movies look pretty good at <1GB. Granted, it ain't 480p, but still very do-able for something with this size screen.

I don't know, with the current Nano offerings only getting larger in capacity, the need to justify the excess footprint of the larger iPods becomes important.

I think the concept of the full-face iPod (while nothing new, its been talked about since Gen 1) is a great idea and a natural evolution of the product line. It combines all the good ideas of the iPod, sleek, sexy design, in what is still a pocket-sized product.

I do agree that I would like to see some kind of digital signal path (a new dock or dock cable perhaps) that would improve on the analog versions that we have now.

I think I would have to seriously look at such a device.

DXR_13KE · 18th Oct 2006, 20:20

i have two words: SCRACH MAGNET!!!!!!

mattthegamer463 · 18th Oct 2006, 21:18

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Originally Posted by DXR_13KE

i have two words: SCRACH MAGNET!!!!!!

Scratch magnet? Thats not a nano!

Seriously, waste. Why would you want to smear your greasy finger all over the screen youre struggling to read anyway? What they need is a full keyboard and a laptop style mouse-nib, that would solve any problem. Works for 99.9% of PCs.

Ramble · 18th Oct 2006, 21:36

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Originally Posted by mclean007

As a matter of interest, why do you say it would require "too much storage space" - 480p video in decent quality using h264 could easily be 1-2GB/hour. That gives a fairly decent capacity on an 80 gig device like the current top end 5.5g iPod.

Oh, h264 will be far lower than that.
Think 300-700MB/hr.

FooSai · 18th Oct 2006, 21:46

I don't think a touch screen would be too good due the scratching, fingerprints etc on screen has been said already, but having it full screen is definatly a good idea. So how about you combine a couple of image ideas from trusted reviews article link take the way the number pad is hidden, from the iPhone, but replace it the the oh so loved "standard" ipod interface.
WHAM!!! full screen video iPod but still with all the usablity of the current version, complete with slide out interface.

note: I copyright this idea, so when it comes to life I want all you guys as witnesses that apple owe me money!

Warrior_Rocker · 19th Oct 2006, 01:06

My brother once had one of > These < It was quite interesting to say the least. Though I hope apple will use their touch sensitive technology to use the tap, not the resistive touchscreens found on most touch based devices.

I do not see the lcd as being much more power sucking than the ones in the iPod's already. As far as I can tell its the HDD and its enormous power requirements that really drain the device. Recall the exemplary battery life the iPod Nano gets.

Adnuo · 19th Oct 2006, 04:41

I'll believe it when i see it.

pillow · 19th Oct 2006, 04:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramble

Oh, h264 will be far lower than that.
Think 300-700MB/hr.

a two and a half hour movie is like a gig on my friends ipod.

i think you can buy an adapter to transfer video to an external monitor, but im probably wrong.

Warrior_Rocker · 19th Oct 2006, 05:53

The iPod photo dock connector has provisions for svideo (chroma, luminance) I cannot say however whether or not that actually worked as I have never owned an iPod photo.

But lets just say the obvious.
1) Is there a large market for a portable device that plays video?
-Not really considering that the iPod video already does that, just most people will end up listening to music rather than watch video on a 3'' lcd.

2) Will the interface be likeable?
-Probably not, the iPod 3g had touch sensitive buttons and wheel and was not quite as popular as its 4g counterpart with touch wheel and actual click style tactile buttons. the same style to appear on the photo and video

3) What about the lcd scratching?
-Knowing apple and virtually every iPod they have made, scratching will be nothing new. It will be the same everyday battle to keep it from being scratched. It would be nice to see apple use a stronger plastic, or even glass that would resist scratching far better

wharrad · 19th Oct 2006, 12:55

Hum, yeah, it does look like the future - might even work. Don't want to bash something I haven't used yet and do like the iPod.

However...

I'm not so must worried about the scratching, with a screen covering the whole device you're more likely to crack it. (Although saying that, it shouldn't be in your pocket if you're watching videos!)

jjsyht · 19th Oct 2006, 13:16

Would be a good buy if the price is the same as the current 5g ipod. I'm not planning to watch movies on it, but I would love to have my own personal 'Proper' video player to watch 24 while on occasional short european trips(plane or train).

CrakeN · 27th Oct 2006, 19:48

Apple have two new patent's for touchscreen.

First

Second

That's really good. But price ? And start produce ?

18th Oct 2006, 18:32	#1
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18th Oct 2006, 19:13	#6
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18th Oct 2006, 20:03	#8
mclean007 Officious Bystander Join Date: May 2003 Location: Nodnol Posts: 1,595	As a matter of interest, why do you say it would require "too much storage space" - 480p video in decent quality using h264 could easily be 1-2GB/hour. That gives a fairly decent capacity on an 80 gig device like the current top end 5.5g iPod. __________________ Demand Naked DSL in the UK!

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18th Oct 2006, 18:56	#3
_DTM2000_ Senior Super Douche Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 229	Will we get a free virus with this one too?

18th Oct 2006, 19:00	#4
M4RTIN Ultramodder Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 1,257	personally i dont like touchscreen devices when they are n everyday thing, i had a touchscreen phone and the screen got scratched and ruined. okay i could have got a screen protector but at the end of the day the touch screen gave no benefits over a good key layout.

18th Oct 2006, 19:09	#5
EQC Multimodder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CA Posts: 220	at this point, it seems like Apple has to produce a touch-screen video Ipod similar to all the mock-ups eventually. Either that, or produce something better (bigger screen, more sleek and stylish somehow, maybe one of those roll-up screens that have been 'just around the corner' for the last 3 years, etc). The real question to me is: did Apple think of the idea first, or did they get the idea from all the rumors and photoshopped pictures that showed up on the web?

18th Oct 2006, 21:46	#13
FooSai Multimodder Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: UK Posts: 70	I don't think a touch screen would be too good due the scratching, fingerprints etc on screen has been said already, but having it full screen is definatly a good idea. So how about you combine a couple of image ideas from trusted reviews article link take the way the number pad is hidden, from the iPhone, but replace it the the oh so loved "standard" ipod interface. WHAM!!! full screen video iPod but still with all the usablity of the current version, complete with slide out interface. note: I copyright this idea, so when it comes to life I want all you guys as witnesses that apple owe me money!

19th Oct 2006, 01:06	#14
Warrior_Rocker Holder of the sacred iron Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 923	My brother once had one of > These < It was quite interesting to say the least. Though I hope apple will use their touch sensitive technology to use the tap, not the resistive touchscreens found on most touch based devices. I do not see the lcd as being much more power sucking than the ones in the iPod's already. As far as I can tell its the HDD and its enormous power requirements that really drain the device. Recall the exemplary battery life the iPod Nano gets. __________________ ..:: Recent Projects ::.. Picture Frame PC / Adding VGA to lcd / Razr Charge Cable Internal USB WiFi / Zune TV Output / Project XodusAMP Integrated AC Inverter / Project IDEpod / Project iPod HDD Reader

19th Oct 2006, 04:41	#15
Adnuo Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 489	I'll believe it when i see it.

19th Oct 2006, 05:53	#17
Warrior_Rocker Holder of the sacred iron Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 923	The iPod photo dock connector has provisions for svideo (chroma, luminance) I cannot say however whether or not that actually worked as I have never owned an iPod photo. But lets just say the obvious. 1) Is there a large market for a portable device that plays video? -Not really considering that the iPod video already does that, just most people will end up listening to music rather than watch video on a 3'' lcd. 2) Will the interface be likeable? -Probably not, the iPod 3g had touch sensitive buttons and wheel and was not quite as popular as its 4g counterpart with touch wheel and actual click style tactile buttons. the same style to appear on the photo and video 3) What about the lcd scratching? -Knowing apple and virtually every iPod they have made, scratching will be nothing new. It will be the same everyday battle to keep it from being scratched. It would be nice to see apple use a stronger plastic, or even glass that would resist scratching far better __________________ ..:: Recent Projects ::.. Picture Frame PC / Adding VGA to lcd / Razr Charge Cable Internal USB WiFi / Zune TV Output / Project XodusAMP Integrated AC Inverter / Project IDEpod / Project iPod HDD Reader

19th Oct 2006, 12:55	#18
wharrad Hypermodder Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Burford, Oxfordshire Posts: 866	Hum, yeah, it does look like the future - might even work. Don't want to bash something I haven't used yet and do like the iPod. However... I'm not so must worried about the scratching, with a screen covering the whole device you're more likely to crack it. (Although saying that, it shouldn't be in your pocket if you're watching videos!) __________________ Jimmy Carr - "It's easier to get forgiveness than permission" Last edited by wharrad; 19th Oct 2006 at 16:38.

19th Oct 2006, 13:16	#19
jjsyht Hello, my name is yuri Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Uk Posts: 132	Would be a good buy if the price is the same as the current 5g ipod. I'm not planning to watch movies on it, but I would love to have my own personal 'Proper' video player to watch 24 while on occasional short european trips(plane or train). __________________ SimpleMods Thinkpad x41: Centrino, 1Gb, 40Gb Mac Mini: G4, 512Mb, 80Gb

27th Oct 2006, 19:48	#20
CrakeN What's a Dremel? Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2	Apple have two new patent's for touchscreen. First Second That's really good. But price ? And start produce ?