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Da Dego · 20th Oct 2006, 16:57

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/10...anks_30k_vids/

Spacecowboy92 · 20th Oct 2006, 17:05

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The Japanese organization has expressed a dissatisfaction with the fact that it even had to send the list

Theres always something to moan about! At least there were no long and drawn out legal battles. Good for YouTube I say, despite the loss of videos, they did as they should.

Lazarus Dark · 20th Oct 2006, 18:04

"sue posters and viewers of copyrighted content..."
that would be funny. like suing the witness to a murder for just being there. You don't always know exactly what you're going to watch on youtube or others. sometimes the title is misleading or lacking information.

"videos containing segments"
I'm curious to know the definition of segments. The law allows a certain amount of vids to be shown for commentary or satirical purposes. I wonder if any of the thirty thousand would have met this criteria?

So they sent this list and youtube just what? deleted them? without even checking to see if they indeed violated copyright? because if they had I would think they would have deleted them one at a time as they were found in violation. I don't take any organization at thier word until I see for myself. Disappointing that youtube just bends over and takes this with a smile.

Drexial · 20th Oct 2006, 18:38

i mostly blame vanilla ice for all this.... if he just credited queen in teh album credits, then none of this crap would have escilated this far. i mean th fuin sampling of the 80s was HUGE, but no one got yelled at cause they included credit to the origin. it wasnt untill rob van winkle decided to express just how much of a douche he was that this became a problem.

i mean as long as the author is known, whats the problem with quoting it.

i can say "i know kungfu" and everyone knows that i talking about. what the hell does it matter if i use the video for that scene as well.

DXR_13KE · 20th Oct 2006, 18:58

users will eventualy re-post the videos anyway.

Faulk_Wulf · 20th Oct 2006, 20:07

Shouldn't the country that YouTube's operations are based in be the base for which its judged by? What I mean is-- if it is based in the Unitied States, shouldn't it be bound by US law? (Or European law if its in Europe?) I don't even see why this happened. What gives the Japanese goverment the authority? (I'm not asking angerly, I"m just curious.) The artical said itself that the site is protected by the DMCA, so then what is the issue? Also YouTube videos are restricted to 10min to comply with the FairUse laws that are abound.

cderalow · 20th Oct 2006, 20:23

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Originally Posted by Drexial

i mostly blame vanilla ice for all this.... if he just credited queen in teh album credits, then none of this crap would have escilated this far. i mean th fuin sampling of the 80s was HUGE, but no one got yelled at cause they included credit to the origin. it wasnt untill rob van winkle decided to express just how much of a douche he was that this became a problem.

i mean as long as the author is known, whats the problem with quoting it.

i can say "i know kungfu" and everyone knows that i talking about. what the hell does it matter if i use the video for that scene as well.

and of course if by queen you mean david bowie and freddy mercury... then you are right...

Lowsidex2 · 21st Oct 2006, 00:29

Oh no, some creative school kid remixed DBZ clips with System of a Down song and created something unique and entertaining! He's costing us millions of dollars and hurting our corporate image! UNLEASH THE LAWYERS OF WAR!

mikeuk2004 · 21st Oct 2006, 08:26

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Originally Posted by Faulk_Wulf

Shouldn't the country that YouTube's operations are based in be the base for which its judged by? What I mean is-- if it is based in the Unitied States, shouldn't it be bound by US law? (Or European law if its in Europe?) I don't even see why this happened. What gives the Japanese goverment the authority? (I'm not asking angerly, I"m just curious.) The artical said itself that the site is protected by the DMCA, so then what is the issue? Also YouTube videos are restricted to 10min to comply with the FairUse laws that are abound.

Duh if there are Japanese copy right protected material on there then yes they do have the right as You tube is in breach of the Copy Right.

just like if there are UK copy right protected material on there then we have the right for you tube to remove it. You tube need to check its videos once its been uploaded before making it available to the public, as there are alot of ilegal vids on there.

Faulk_Wulf · 21st Oct 2006, 22:39

But YouTube provides no dirrect means to save these files, so I do not see why this is an issue. I guess I should have stated that in my first post. My appologies. If you can't download it, and its short, then doesn't it just fall into "Fair Use"? I mean I know Lawyers will be Lawyers, but still...

Blademrk · 22nd Oct 2006, 00:52

D'oh, I've only just found the new (well, 2005) episodes of the Guyver on there. Alright, so they're in Japanese with no subtitles, but I've still enjoyed the few episodes I've seen. I'll probably be more likely to win the lottery than see a UK DVD release of it.

Dezza · 22nd Oct 2006, 13:48

'the first of many'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6072266.stm

Fly · 22nd Oct 2006, 15:44

This could have been the first strike against youtube's popularity and the prequel to a decimation in their content. Think about it, how many videos that you watch on there do not contain some kind of copyrighted material? At this rate all that will be left will be 10,000 webcam teasers and mentos & diet coke experiments... oh wait, mentos and diet coke are trademarks...

konsta · 22nd Oct 2006, 16:46

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Originally Posted by Faulk_Wulf

Shouldn't the country that YouTube's operations are based in be the base for which its judged by? What I mean is-- if it is based in the Unitied States, shouldn't it be bound by US law? (Or European law if its in Europe?) I don't even see why this happened. What gives the Japanese goverment the authority? (I'm not asking angerly, I"m just curious.)

The answer to your question is that Copyright law is to some extent internationally harmonised by (among others) two treaties called the Berne Convention and WIPO. These essentially provide that all signatries will enforce certain standards of intellectual property right protection. Otherwise, you would get an impossible level of counterfeiting of all kinds of goods, not just youtube videos.

ZERO <ibis> · 22nd Oct 2006, 17:41

Is it ok if you credit the song at the end of your video for out of country content. for example if i had a vid with music from japan in the back can i credit the music and be ok?

I was worried that something like this may happan once google got youtube but then again it was probibly just a matter of time. This explains where that awsome video of that guy in a show paying the most amazing gutiar solo i have ever seen, i had wanted to get his name but now i will never be able to buy his music

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20th Oct 2006, 18:04	#3
Lazarus Dark Supermodder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: US Memphis, TN Posts: 292	"sue posters and viewers of copyrighted content..." that would be funny. like suing the witness to a murder for just being there. You don't always know exactly what you're going to watch on youtube or others. sometimes the title is misleading or lacking information. "videos containing segments" I'm curious to know the definition of segments. The law allows a certain amount of vids to be shown for commentary or satirical purposes. I wonder if any of the thirty thousand would have met this criteria? So they sent this list and youtube just what? deleted them? without even checking to see if they indeed violated copyright? because if they had I would think they would have deleted them one at a time as they were found in violation. I don't take any organization at thier word until I see for myself. Disappointing that youtube just bends over and takes this with a smile. __________________ My gun kata is greater than your kung fu.

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20th Oct 2006, 18:38	#4
Drexial Supermodder Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 297	i mostly blame vanilla ice for all this.... if he just credited queen in teh album credits, then none of this crap would have escilated this far. i mean th fuin sampling of the 80s was HUGE, but no one got yelled at cause they included credit to the origin. it wasnt untill rob van winkle decided to express just how much of a douche he was that this became a problem. i mean as long as the author is known, whats the problem with quoting it. i can say "i know kungfu" and everyone knows that i talking about. what the hell does it matter if i use the video for that scene as well.

20th Oct 2006, 20:07	#6
Faulk_Wulf Internet Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: USA Posts: 280	Shouldn't the country that YouTube's operations are based in be the base for which its judged by? What I mean is-- if it is based in the Unitied States, shouldn't it be bound by US law? (Or European law if its in Europe?) I don't even see why this happened. What gives the Japanese goverment the authority? (I'm not asking angerly, I"m just curious.) The artical said itself that the site is protected by the DMCA, so then what is the issue? Also YouTube videos are restricted to 10min to comply with the FairUse laws that are abound.

21st Oct 2006, 00:29	#8
Lowsidex2 Multimodder Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: USA Posts: 224	Oh no, some creative school kid remixed DBZ clips with System of a Down song and created something unique and entertaining! He's costing us millions of dollars and hurting our corporate image! UNLEASH THE LAWYERS OF WAR!

21st Oct 2006, 22:39	#10
Faulk_Wulf Internet Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: USA Posts: 280	But YouTube provides no dirrect means to save these files, so I do not see why this is an issue. I guess I should have stated that in my first post. My appologies. If you can't download it, and its short, then doesn't it just fall into "Fair Use"? I mean I know Lawyers will be Lawyers, but still...

22nd Oct 2006, 15:44	#13
Fly inter arma silent leges Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,741	This could have been the first strike against youtube's popularity and the prequel to a decimation in their content. Think about it, how many videos that you watch on there do not contain some kind of copyrighted material? At this rate all that will be left will be 10,000 webcam teasers and mentos & diet coke experiments... oh wait, mentos and diet coke are trademarks... __________________ "Flying is simple; push on the stick and the houses become bigger, pull back on the stick and houses become smaller, unless you keep pulling in which case the houses will become bigger again..." Disce quasi semper victurus; vive quasi cras moriturus.

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