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WilHarris · 7th Nov 2006, 19:33

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/11...ply_shortages/

specofdust · 7th Nov 2006, 19:56

I'm sure the general public will be deeply upset at having to buy C2D systems intead of X2 systems

DXR_13KE · 7th Nov 2006, 20:00

it was predictable, i hope that now AMD makes more factories to make their CPUs.

aggies11 · 7th Nov 2006, 20:52

It's better to have them in Dell's hands, then ours, sadly.

Joe Q Public knows the word "Pentium", and most probably Intel. They also need to start knowing the word AMD. Putting them in Dell machines with an AMD logo should hopefully help make that happen.

Aggies

BUFF · 7th Nov 2006, 20:57

I'm sure that AMD would much rather be in the position of being able to sell every CPU that it can make (even if at a lower margin) than have the $4.5 billion stock mountain sitting around that Intel is rumoured to have ...

Tyinsar · 7th Nov 2006, 20:57

Perhaps this is part of the reason they didn't push too hard before C2D hit

EQC · 7th Nov 2006, 21:32

Isn't AMD-s 4x4 platform supposed to debut soon? If they're already running shortages, they won't be able to sell very many pairs of processors... (granted, as 4x4 is a very high end, they probably don't intend to).

Just another thought:
I'm not an Intel fanboy or anything...but on the topic of 4x4 and AM2:
Many people have always complained about how Intel upgrades their processors, and while the socket's the same, the old chipsets don't support new processors, so you're stuck upgrading more than just the CPU. I find it interesting that AMD is now forcing major upgrades too:

1) When AMD's dual cores first came out, folks were saying "in a year when prices come down, I'll be able to change out my single core for a dual core with just a bios upgrade"...which was true...but after that year passed, AMD switched to AM2, and it WAS a new socket. So they cut the upgrade path pretty short there. (I understand that AMD's memory controller is on the processor...so this had to be done to use DDR2 memory...I just think it's interesting).

2) In moving to 4x4, AMD is changing the socket again. So now, if you want to upgrade, you can't just keep your old processor and buy 1 new processor with the new motherboard. You'll have to buy 2 new processors and the new motherboard. Even if you just got a brand new AM2 processor, you can't put it in a new 4x4 system when the boards become available.

I just find it interesting that both AMD and Intel seem to make upgrading more expensive than it might otherwise be....

Tyinsar · 7th Nov 2006, 22:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by EQC

Isn't AMD-s 4x4 platform supposed to debut soon?...

I wonder if AMD is intentionally doing this (shortages) to prevent having a stockpile when they move ahead - OR - maybe even switching some resources to "future" processors. (this is just speculation - I honestly have no idea what AMD's fabs are up to - but I would appreciate input from someone who does know)

speedfreek · 7th Nov 2006, 22:39

If I were them I would be glad to have a slight shortage rather than a huge surplus, and they will be able to build up more to compete with intel.

MrFusion · 8th Nov 2006, 05:07

I'm a big AMD fan, always have been. My 1st pc was a K6. I hope they get some more manufacturing going. I finally talked my friends who were Intel lifers to switch to AMD, hope I didn't stear them down the wrong path since Intel seems to be coming out with such good stuff these days and AMD has yet to show some new shiny stuff. Hope they get it together and their 4x4 and the rest come out to be real winners. We'll have to see!

antiHero · 8th Nov 2006, 09:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by DXR_13KE

it was predictable, i hope that now AMD makes more factories to make their CPUs.

They are in the middle of it. A second production hall is currently build right next to there Factory in Dresden/Saxony.

DougEdey · 8th Nov 2006, 10:01

They were rumoured to be building a FAB in NYC

mikeuk2004 · 8th Nov 2006, 13:25

at least they know every chip made is being sold and like the guy above said. Having stuck floating around costs the company money like intel.

like the Dell adverts. "We dont keep stock forming dust in warehouses, we build to order to keep costs down.

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EQC Multimodder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CA Posts: 220	Isn't AMD-s 4x4 platform supposed to debut soon? If they're already running shortages, they won't be able to sell very many pairs of processors... (granted, as 4x4 is a very high end, they probably don't intend to). Just another thought: I'm not an Intel fanboy or anything...but on the topic of 4x4 and AM2: Many people have always complained about how Intel upgrades their processors, and while the socket's the same, the old chipsets don't support new processors, so you're stuck upgrading more than just the CPU. I find it interesting that AMD is now forcing major upgrades too: 1) When AMD's dual cores first came out, folks were saying "in a year when prices come down, I'll be able to change out my single core for a dual core with just a bios upgrade"...which was true...but after that year passed, AMD switched to AM2, and it WAS a new socket. So they cut the upgrade path pretty short there. (I understand that AMD's memory controller is on the processor...so this had to be done to use DDR2 memory...I just think it's interesting). 2) In moving to 4x4, AMD is changing the socket again. So now, if you want to upgrade, you can't just keep your old processor and buy 1 new processor with the new motherboard. You'll have to buy 2 new processors and the new motherboard. Even if you just got a brand new AM2 processor, you can't put it in a new 4x4 system when the boards become available. I just find it interesting that both AMD and Intel seem to make upgrading more expensive than it might otherwise be....

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MrFusion What's a Dremel? Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: California, USA Posts: 10	Hope AMD gets their pipelines and factories going! I'm a big AMD fan, always have been. My 1st pc was a K6. I hope they get some more manufacturing going. I finally talked my friends who were Intel lifers to switch to AMD, hope I didn't stear them down the wrong path since Intel seems to be coming out with such good stuff these days and AMD has yet to show some new shiny stuff. Hope they get it together and their 4x4 and the rest come out to be real winners. We'll have to see!

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