PS3 can't upscale? - bit-tech.net Forums

Da Dego · 16th Nov 2006, 16:38

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/11..._cant_upscale/

M4RTIN · 16th Nov 2006, 16:44

so does this mean it only does progreesive scan resolutions? 480p, 720p and 1080p.. also what crazy person decided you had to spend about £1000 on a tv to get an already expensive ps3. . thats just so stupid

themax · 16th Nov 2006, 16:48

Yeah the PS3 will not upscale 720p games for 1080i only TV's. Sucks but most TV's being released into the market are atleast 720p now aren't they? I'm not defending Sony, they should have future proofed their system the way Microsoft did. All it took was a firmwar update and Microsoft enabled 1080p upscaling on the 360. Why can't Sony just admit that even they need to learn from their competition.

rupbert · 16th Nov 2006, 17:04

This is a potentially fatal mistake by Sony.

This is blowing up over lots of forums, there are a lot of very, very unhappy people...

This has been confirmed not just with Resistance, Ridge Racer 7, NBA2K7 and a few others are also being downcoverted to 480p. Is it any wonder people have stated that the PS3 on a standard definition display looks horrible.

@ themax

Sony has not commented yet, but if the PS3 lacks an actual video upscaler (hardware) then a simple firmware update won't resolve the issue.

dsjonboy · 16th Nov 2006, 17:28

hi first post

Im sorry but i couldn't help but laugh when i read this . This is a really really really silly mistake i mean how would u feel if you brought a HD tv 6-9 months ago mainly for the PS3 then found out it would be delayed then when it comes out your brand spanking new HD which has set you back some serious dough can only display in SD

.

oh dear

Krikkit · 16th Nov 2006, 17:30

I smell a Microsoft-style firmware update on the horizon. Didn't they say Rev. 1.01 would be out as soon as the PS3 was?

atanum141 · 16th Nov 2006, 17:48

Apparently the game Dev's are saying the PS3 dosent have a upscaller on hardware level.....quite funny.

Apparently alot of the games will be 480p only....and that is SD i believe.

Swafeman · 16th Nov 2006, 17:55

it sure is SD - they could maybe code a software upscaler tho, the cell apparently would have enough power

Neogumbercules · 16th Nov 2006, 18:36

If the PS3 does have an upscaler then I wouldn't be suprised to see a patch in the future. If it does not, well I don't know if it's possible to code a game to upscale itself, but time will tell.

otispunkmeyer · 16th Nov 2006, 18:42

so if you have a HDTV that does 480i/p and 1080i then the PS3 which will predominantly use 720p will simply output the game at 480i?

shouldnt be to hard to fix, just needs an update no? MS did it with the 360, a simple XBL update and bam 1080p support. no reason sony cant do the same

Echo · 16th Nov 2006, 19:00

This is getting crazy... Are people still holding out to buy these rather than the 360?

M4RTIN · 16th Nov 2006, 19:02

i think we need a definitive answer as to wether it can upscale through hardware, i'd imagine it can as it must modify the resolutions to suit your menu settings just like the xbox does

Firehed · 16th Nov 2006, 20:41

Like Sony needed something else to piss everyone off. Absolutely inexcusably pathetic.

DXR_13KE · 16th Nov 2006, 21:00

WTF? no way, sony are not that dumb..... i hope!!!!!!

BladeofTheImmortal · 16th Nov 2006, 21:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by themax

Yeah the PS3 will not upscale 720p games for 1080i only TV's. Sucks but most TV's being released into the market are atleast 720p now aren't they? I'm not defending Sony, they should have future proofed their system the way Microsoft did. All it took was a firmwar update and Microsoft enabled 1080p upscaling on the 360. Why can't Sony just admit that even they need to learn from their competition.

you answered your own question, if it becomes such a bloody big problem, it'll be given a firmware update. Yet another this Sony "crap" is being blown out of proportion for you.

supermonkey · 16th Nov 2006, 21:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by M4RTIN

...also what crazy person decided you had to spend about £1000 on a tv to get an already expensive ps3. . thats just so stupid

Seeing how many people are paying thousands to get one off e-bay, I'd say CompUSA have a pretty good idea there.

-monkey

DJMyst · 16th Nov 2006, 22:04

according to www.playstation.com the PS3 will support the following:

Screen size: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p

So there is something wrong somewhere. Even if it is just a firmware update, GOD FORBID SONY HAS ONE. Microsoft can have an update to fix their crappy pre-release 360, but OH NO NOT SONY.

IT BETTER WORK FROM DAY ONE WITH NO UPDATES OR IT SUCKS!!!!!

I'm really sick of all this. MS had problems with the 360, but I didn't hear any bashing then. Sony has issues with the PS3 and it's the end of the f***in world.

edit: and before anyone calls me a sony fanboy, i have the premium 360.

Firehed · 16th Nov 2006, 22:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJMyst

according to www.playstation.com the PS3 will support the following:

Screen size: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p

So there is something wrong somewhere. Even if it is just a firmware update, GOD FORBID SONY HAS ONE. Microsoft can have an update to fix their crappy pre-release 360, but OH NO NOT SONY.

IT BETTER WORK FROM DAY ONE WITH NO UPDATES OR IT SUCKS!!!!!

I'm really sick of all this. MS had problems with the 360, but I didn't hear any bashing then. Sony has issues with the PS3 and it's the end of the f***in world.

edit: and before anyone calls me a sony fanboy, i have the premium 360.

Back in my day, consoles DID work out of the box. I damn well expect things to work properly the first time around, not after a bunch of bug fixes. I'm not their beta tester, and as long as they assume I am, I won't be buying from them.

Of course, the real height of gaming for me was the SNES/Genesis days, before anyone would have even thought of internet-connected consoles. If they want to patch in new features or performance improvements, so much the better. But if I need to download a bunch of crap for my new shiny toy to work, that's unacceptable.

sadffffff · 16th Nov 2006, 22:52

anti sony muckraking

speedfreek · 16th Nov 2006, 23:04

Makes me glad I dont plan on getting one, can do better things with the money.

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16th Nov 2006, 17:48	#7
atanum141 I fapped to your post! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: London Posts: 7,536	Apparently the game Dev's are saying the PS3 dosent have a upscaller on hardware level.....quite funny. Apparently alot of the games will be 480p only....and that is SD i believe. __________________ Welcome to Thunderdome, B*tch XBL: atanum141

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16th Nov 2006, 16:44	#2
M4RTIN Ultramodder Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 1,257	so does this mean it only does progreesive scan resolutions? 480p, 720p and 1080p.. also what crazy person decided you had to spend about £1000 on a tv to get an already expensive ps3. . thats just so stupid

16th Nov 2006, 16:48	#3
themax Hypermodder Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 925	Yeah the PS3 will not upscale 720p games for 1080i only TV's. Sucks but most TV's being released into the market are atleast 720p now aren't they? I'm not defending Sony, they should have future proofed their system the way Microsoft did. All it took was a firmwar update and Microsoft enabled 1080p upscaling on the 360. Why can't Sony just admit that even they need to learn from their competition.

16th Nov 2006, 17:04	#4
rupbert Hypermodder Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 799	This is a potentially fatal mistake by Sony. This is blowing up over lots of forums, there are a lot of very, very unhappy people... This has been confirmed not just with Resistance, Ridge Racer 7, NBA2K7 and a few others are also being downcoverted to 480p. Is it any wonder people have stated that the PS3 on a standard definition display looks horrible. @ themax Sony has not commented yet, but if the PS3 lacks an actual video upscaler (hardware) then a simple firmware update won't resolve the issue.

16th Nov 2006, 17:28	#5
dsjonboy What's a Dremel? Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Leicester , UK Posts: 19	hi first post Im sorry but i couldn't help but laugh when i read this . This is a really really really silly mistake i mean how would u feel if you brought a HD tv 6-9 months ago mainly for the PS3 then found out it would be delayed then when it comes out your brand spanking new HD which has set you back some serious dough can only display in SD . oh dear

16th Nov 2006, 18:42	#10
otispunkmeyer Multimodder Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Middlesbrough UK Posts: 142	so if you have a HDTV that does 480i/p and 1080i then the PS3 which will predominantly use 720p will simply output the game at 480i? shouldnt be to hard to fix, just needs an update no? MS did it with the 360, a simple XBL update and bam 1080p support. no reason sony cant do the same __________________ The Otispunkmeyer Mac Attack: Apple MacBook Pro 15.4 inch, 1440x900 glossy LED back lit display, 2.4Ghz Core 2 Duo, 2GB DDR2 667, 160GB 5400RPM SATA HDD, 8x super multi drive, Nvidia Gefore 8600GT 256MB GDDR3, JBL Radial, Dell Ultrasharp 2005FPW 20.1" WS display, Apple wired aluminium keyboard, Apple wireless mighty mouse.

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16th Nov 2006, 19:02	#12
M4RTIN Ultramodder Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 1,257	i think we need a definitive answer as to wether it can upscale through hardware, i'd imagine it can as it must modify the resolutions to suit your menu settings just like the xbox does

16th Nov 2006, 20:41	#13
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16th Nov 2006, 22:04	#17
DJMyst yeah baby Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 945	according to www.playstation.com the PS3 will support the following: Screen size: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p So there is something wrong somewhere. Even if it is just a firmware update, GOD FORBID SONY HAS ONE. Microsoft can have an update to fix their crappy pre-release 360, but OH NO NOT SONY. IT BETTER WORK FROM DAY ONE WITH NO UPDATES OR IT SUCKS!!!!! I'm really sick of all this. MS had problems with the 360, but I didn't hear any bashing then. Sony has issues with the PS3 and it's the end of the f***in world. edit: and before anyone calls me a sony fanboy, i have the premium 360. __________________ Do they have the lumberjack hammer weenie for less then $20 - friend

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