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Da Dego · 5th Dec 2006, 18:00

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/12...ut_iPod_phone/

riggs · 5th Dec 2006, 18:29

I'm guessing it'll be iPod first, phone second?

tbh, if they want this to succeed they need to strike a deal with a major phone manufacturer rather than doing it alone. I dread to think what the phone functionality would be like.

As far as I know, the Motorola/iTunes phones didn't do too well. imo, the only company that have got it right so far are Sony/Ericsson...

M4RTIN · 5th Dec 2006, 18:34

the rokr is a rubbsih phone, no real upgrade over the e398 and a limit of 50 songs crippled it.

phones arent like mp3 players tho so i dont know how well an apple branded phone would sell as they would need to change to new models every few months and make a full lineup.

rupbert · 5th Dec 2006, 18:34

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Originally Posted by riggs

I'm guessing it'll be iPod first, phone second?

tbh, if they want this to succeed they need to strike a deal with a major phone manufacturer rather than doing it alone. I dread to think what the phone functionality would be like.

As far as I know, the Motorola/iTunes phones didn't do too well. imo, the only company that have got it right so far are Sony/Ericsson...

Certainly in the US the iPhone will apparently not be sold with any of the network providers, I don't know why you question the fuctionality though, name me an Apple device that's difficult to use?

mclean007 · 5th Dec 2006, 19:01

Two batteries is pretty dumb IMHO. By the time you factor in the extra circuitry and physical packaging of the batteries, it will make for a larger, heavier, more complex phone than one with a single battery with a capacity equal to the total of the two.

Further, what if you don't want to use the iPod features one day but want to talk a lot. Then you're stuck running out of 'phone battery' juice while the 'music battery' is unused. Surely it makes much more sense to have a single battery feeding all functions - that way it can be used to its full capacity regardless of how an individual uses the device, a bit like how the shared 2MB cache of a Core2Duo chip is a better solution than 2x1MB caches.

mclean007 · 5th Dec 2006, 19:04

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Originally Posted by rupbert

Certainly in the US the iPhone will apparently not be sold with any of the network providers, I don't know why you question the fuctionality though, name me an Apple device that's difficult to use?

Perhaps not difficult to use, but light on features? That said, I couldn't care less if my phone didn't have a camera / video camera. I'd far rather have a slimmer, lighter phone with better battery life and awesome MP3 features. Fortunately I have a Sony Ericsson W810i, which rocks ass in every respect.

lord nicon21 · 5th Dec 2006, 19:39

man that a lot of money and i got a sony w800 with 2Gb card got the phone free on contract. batt life sucks a bit when playing music any 8h or so (how many people do it for 8h)

Firehed · 5th Dec 2006, 19:45

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Originally Posted by mclean007

Two batteries is pretty dumb IMHO. By the time you factor in the extra circuitry and physical packaging of the batteries, it will make for a larger, heavier, more complex phone than one with a single battery with a capacity equal to the total of the two.

Further, what if you don't want to use the iPod features one day but want to talk a lot. Then you're stuck running out of 'phone battery' juice while the 'music battery' is unused. Surely it makes much more sense to have a single battery feeding all functions - that way it can be used to its full capacity regardless of how an individual uses the device, a bit like how the shared 2MB cache of a Core2Duo chip is a better solution than 2x1MB caches.

I think it's one of the best ideas I've ever heard of to go along with a media-type phone. The last thing I want is my phone going dead because I forgot to pause something. To each his own I guess, but I'd keep two separate devices in my pocket for that reason alone.

LoneArchon · 5th Dec 2006, 22:19

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Originally Posted by rupbert

Certainly in the US the iPhone will apparently not be sold with any of the network providers, I don't know why you question the fuctionality though, name me an Apple device that's difficult to use?

That does not seem right as some of the large phone providers will not activate a phone on there network if it is not branded that company. Functionality could go ether way but with apple in charge it should be very user friendly.

flabber · 6th Dec 2006, 08:07

I hope that IF they release one, they'll release it in Holland as well.
Giv phone!

Mother-Goose · 6th Dec 2006, 17:04

If their phones are as reliable as their players they can go and suck my...oh never mind

Mother-Goose · 6th Dec 2006, 17:06

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Originally Posted by lord nicon21

man that a lot of money and i got a sony w800 with 2Gb card got the phone free on contract. batt life sucks a bit when playing music any 8h or so (how many people do it for 8h)

That has got to be some of the worst English I have seen on these forums, and that includes Computerking

rupbert · 6th Dec 2006, 17:51

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Originally Posted by Mother-Gooser

That has got to be some of the worst English I have seen on these forums, and that includes Computerking

I agree, but in amongst the awful grammar is a good point.

Are people who already have a mobile phone they like (which is quite a few) really going to pay £150+ for a replacement? Especially if they already own an iPod as well (which again is quite a few).

lord nicon21 · 6th Dec 2006, 19:54

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Originally Posted by Mother-Gooser

That has got to be some of the worst English I have seen on these forums, and that includes Computerking

i try my best to be the worst

DXR_13KE · 6th Dec 2006, 20:43

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Originally Posted by mclean007

Two batteries is pretty dumb IMHO. By the time you factor in the extra circuitry and physical packaging of the batteries, it will make for a larger, heavier, more complex phone than one with a single battery with a capacity equal to the total of the two.

Further, what if you don't want to use the iPod features one day but want to talk a lot. Then you're stuck running out of 'phone battery' juice while the 'music battery' is unused. Surely it makes much more sense to have a single battery feeding all functions - that way it can be used to its full capacity regardless of how an individual uses the device, a bit like how the shared 2MB cache of a Core2Duo chip is a better solution than 2x1MB caches.

if it was 2 similar batteries then you could swap the dead one for the live one.

jjsyht · 7th Dec 2006, 16:31

2 batteries; you dont know how many times i had to shut my phone off so i can make emercency calls after listinening to 2gb of music. though i have a D830 (maybe 30mins of batterylife; for those who dont know the phone). I wont even mind if they put the other entertainement feature of the phone on the second battery.

according to rumous, its gonna have video - for more than just camera and 3g.

i got a contract last week, if i didn't have the chance of upgrading in 6months, i would have got the iPhone immediately.

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By the time you factor in the extra circuitry and physical packaging of the batteries

i really hope you dont work for any of the companies i admire for their creativity.

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