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Join Date: Aug 2005
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At swearing in, congressman wants to carry Koran. Outrage ensues.
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: UK
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I think it is a very positive step to have a Muslim as a member of congress and is a very big step in the right direction for America.
I dont see a problem with swearing in under the koran as this is a book he has faith in and makes up his spiritual identity and is also where he gets his values swearing on the bible for this man would be pointless as he doesnt have the relationship with the bible that he does with the koran. Also the fact he is willing to fight for his right to do this shows how seriously he takes his position and how dedicated he is to stand up for his, and muslim, values. If the purpose of the ceremony "is not to promote Christianity or Judaism or Islam or any other religion," then whats the problem and if teir is a problem because the koran is a holy book then prehaps they should consider if the bible should be removed from the process and change it to something more universal such as a copy of the Constitution. I think what we have here is another example as to why their is a growing anti-western movement in the islamic faiths and if we are to promote intergration of cultures into our countries and spread democracy over the globe then prehaps it is time that our governments start leading the way and showing we can do it. |
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It seems an outdated notion to swear in under any religous book.
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Deal with it
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This is an other in the long line of cases in which we are giving unnecessary attention to ignorance. While there apparently many people who bought into Prager's idea, it looks like tolerance will win out in the end. -monkey
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Portland Oregon USA
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Just remember - this country was founded by a group of religious conservatives who left England because the religious beliefs in England in the 1700s were to liberal for them. This group of the most uptight people in all of Europe crossed the ocean to found this country.
(later, they threw a bunch of criminals and the poorest of the poor into the mix...) No wonder we're so screwed up. Oh, and from memory, the first (of 5) freedoms guaranteed by the first amendment to the constitution: "Congress shall pass no law regarding an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." I was going to go through and BOLD the important words of that, but looking at it I realized that each and every word matters.
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Uonuma-Shi, Niigata-ken
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Yep, freedom of religion. People should be free to believe in whatever they want.
I like Theodore Roosevelt more and more. He didn't need any book to swear on. I love the Constitution, I just wish that the government would actually follow it. |
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