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Garside · 8th Dec 2006, 11:06

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/12...violent_games/

Speedo · 8th Dec 2006, 11:22

That's just.. crazy.

overdosedelusion · 8th Dec 2006, 11:29

thats a bit.. pathetic =\

boggsi · 8th Dec 2006, 11:33

ridiculous, i do hope they banned all violent films, literature and voices inside peoples heads that talk of violence, bring on the thought police

Bindibadgi · 8th Dec 2006, 11:37

Great.

This will affect EVERYONE in the EU. Thanks, German politicians

It annoys me that the FIRST thing they jump on is violent games, rather than WHY is a kid playing violent games, or the parents or school in the first place, or whether he was mentally attributed to doing it anyway?? I agree with Boggsi. If people are adults, then they should be free to choose. Make it so kids playing violent games, reselling violent games to kids gets the jail sentance.

yodasarmpit · 8th Dec 2006, 11:42

Would be a bit hard to ban CS:S as it can be bought online via Steam, unless they plan on blocking the ports that certain games use.

Seems to me that this would be very difficult to impliment.

thechoozen · 8th Dec 2006, 11:43

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ridiculous, i do hope they banned all violent films, literature and voices inside peoples heads that talk of violence, bring on the thought police

our politicians here in germany are totally crazy.....

But i would like to know how this works in your (other) countries? Is there an active discussion about games like counterstrike (or real life sports like paintball) and the "violence" within?

overdosedelusion · 8th Dec 2006, 11:43

thinking about it, if countersrike leads someone into shooting up their school chums then they were messed up in the head way before video games got anywhere near them =\

perplekks45 · 8th Dec 2006, 11:48

The problem with that law is: Let's say you bought HL2 1 year ago... or 1 day ago. So you bought it when it was legal, you play it and bam! from one day to another you're in jail for playing a game that is illegal to sell, buy, possess AND play. Like the games with Nazi symbols in it... Sure there must be something going on in those politicians' heads...

thechoozen · 8th Dec 2006, 11:51

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they were messed up in the head way before video games got anywhere near them =\

thats exact what i´m thinking too.....

But our politicians think that they maybe were crazy before they get the games.....BUT the games show them the way to let their violent thoughts out.....and beside that they think that those crazy people "train" their real shooting skills with those games....

Bindibadgi · 8th Dec 2006, 11:55

Well there's no denying it's a form of desensitisation, but 99% of people can differentiate between the virtual world and the real one, and understand that they can't do it in the real one unless they want to go join the army.

You might want to up shop and leave or consider closing down, Choozen: since paintball is also a violent, murder simulator sport.

SemiSkimmed · 8th Dec 2006, 12:03

Yes god forbid we should query where they get the guns from etc but ban the games!
Pathetic

thechoozen · 8th Dec 2006, 12:12

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Well there's no denying it's a form of desensitisation, but 99% of people can differentiate between the virtual world and the real one, and understand that they can't do it in the real one unless they want to go join the army.

i totally agree with it

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Choozen: since paintball is also a violent, murder simulator sport.

yeah i know....here in germany it is often put in the same discussion with CS and other killergames like our politician call them

therefore my question how it is in Gb? Ireland? Scotland? etc..... i now that people in your countries also like playing those games or sports....is there a public discussion like we have? (i think for a few years now)

WILD9 · 8th Dec 2006, 12:13

This will all swing back round in 20 years when people who grew up with games are in politics. Games will be accepted as a legitimate form of entertainment and not something for children. This has happened time and time again when old people who didnt grow up with something in their life want to ban it because they dont understand it. It happened with rock and roll and violent films. In the meantime sorry to all the germans, hope this nanny state thing doesnt last long.

j.rhy@n · 8th Dec 2006, 12:18

So what they going to do ban TV news as well..

People get hyped up from watching news scenes from IRAQ or Afgan its a similar thing.

They going to Ban kids from playing Cowboys and Indians on the street becuase you might kill some one ? $hit like this happens once in a blue moon and we get jumped on like a their is no tommorow just because some crazed kid cant be brought up correctly.. Blame the parents...

Come on, these communities are small and we are getting picked on.

What next hey...

Their is no way they can Ban games like CS , impossible...

Veles · 8th Dec 2006, 12:38

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Originally Posted by thechoozen

therefore my question how it is in Gb? Ireland? Scotland? etc..... i now that people in your countries also like playing those games or sports....is there a public discussion like we have? (i think for a few years now)

I don't think anyone in the UK really has anything against stuff like paintball, apart from the pain they have after they play

In pretty much every city we have some kind of Quazar game (like paintball but with lasers, if you get hit your vest detects it, you can't fire for a while and you get a "death" on your scorecard, it's just like an FPS really).

TBH it isn't really much different than playing cowboys and indians or soldiers in the back garden as children, are they going to lock up children for a year because they go "bang! bang!" at each other?

PA!N · 8th Dec 2006, 12:45

Perthetic...

Its the wrong reaction to the happenings. Germany has a lot of big flaws in its educational and social system that lead to a lot of perspectivelesnes among the youth, especially in social weak familys, but politicans are unable to change that so they search for somebody else to blame ->videogames.

specofdust · 8th Dec 2006, 12:45

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Originally Posted by Veles

I don't think anyone in the UK really has anything against stuff like paintball, apart from the pain they have after they play

Well actually certain f***wits withing the government have been working tirelessly to get airsoft(that's 6mm bb guns) banned for quite some time. Thankfully more pressing matters like..I dunno, anything..have taken precedence and the government hasn't gotten around to it yet. Don't think they don't want to though. I'm sure they'll find another thing to ban as soon as they've got some free time.

I feel sorry for Germans here. Just another case of people suffering because of other peoples stupidity and misperceptions. The shootings won't stop if they ban violent video games, but I very much doubt anyone will actually bother to say "hold on, the shootings didn't stop, let's legalise them again" because the people who could do that, they just do not care.

Duste · 8th Dec 2006, 14:24

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Ryu_ookami · 8th Dec 2006, 14:37

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8th Dec 2006, 11:06	#1
Garside Supermodder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London Posts: 395	Germany to ban ze violent games http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/12...violent_games/

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8th Dec 2006, 11:37	#5
Bindibadgi Richard Swinburne bit-tech Staff Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Omnipwntent Posts: 28,288	Great. This will affect EVERYONE in the EU. Thanks, German politicians It annoys me that the FIRST thing they jump on is violent games, rather than WHY is a kid playing violent games, or the parents or school in the first place, or whether he was mentally attributed to doing it anyway?? I agree with Boggsi. If people are adults, then they should be free to choose. Make it so kids playing violent games, reselling violent games to kids gets the jail sentance. __________________ Made you look, made you stare, made you clicked this in your underwear! Den of Geek!

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8th Dec 2006, 11:43	#8
overdosedelusion I mostly come at night, mostly.. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Hampshire UK Posts: 1,275	thinking about it, if countersrike leads someone into shooting up their school chums then they were messed up in the head way before video games got anywhere near them =\ __________________ Lian-LI PCA71B \| DFI DK X38-T2R \| q6600 G0 \| ATI 4870X2 \| 4GB 800MHz \| Enermax Galaxy \| Samsung 40" 1080p \| X-Fi Fatality Pro (Games) \| M-Audio 24/96 \| Musical Fidelity V-Dac \| Graham Slee Solo 2009 Headphone Amp \| AKG K701/Audio Technica ATH-W1000 \|

8th Dec 2006, 11:22	#2
Speedo Minimodder Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Warwickshire, UK Posts: 46	That's just.. crazy.

8th Dec 2006, 11:33	#4
boggsi Multimodder Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 105	ridiculous, i do hope they banned all violent films, literature and voices inside peoples heads that talk of violence, bring on the thought police

8th Dec 2006, 11:48	#9
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8th Dec 2006, 11:55	#11
Bindibadgi Richard Swinburne bit-tech Staff Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Omnipwntent Posts: 28,288	Well there's no denying it's a form of desensitisation, but 99% of people can differentiate between the virtual world and the real one, and understand that they can't do it in the real one unless they want to go join the army. You might want to up shop and leave or consider closing down, Choozen: since paintball is also a violent, murder simulator sport. __________________ Made you look, made you stare, made you clicked this in your underwear! Den of Geek!

8th Dec 2006, 12:03	#12
SemiSkimmed What's a Dremel? Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1	Yes god forbid we should query where they get the guns from etc but ban the games! Pathetic

8th Dec 2006, 12:13	#14
WILD9 Been here aaaaages Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Cheltenham, UK Posts: 565	This will all swing back round in 20 years when people who grew up with games are in politics. Games will be accepted as a legitimate form of entertainment and not something for children. This has happened time and time again when old people who didnt grow up with something in their life want to ban it because they dont understand it. It happened with rock and roll and violent films. In the meantime sorry to all the germans, hope this nanny state thing doesnt last long. __________________ e2180 @ 2700 \| Gigabyte P35C-DS3R \| Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro \| 2GB Crucail Ballistix PC 6400 \| Leadtek 8800 GTS 640 @ 600,1500,1700 \| 320GB Samsung F1 \| Coolermaster 710 \| Samsung 22" 223BW

8th Dec 2006, 12:18	#15
j.rhy@n Multimodder Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Germany / Brit Nationalit Posts: 197	So what they going to do ban TV news as well.. People get hyped up from watching news scenes from IRAQ or Afgan its a similar thing. They going to Ban kids from playing Cowboys and Indians on the street becuase you might kill some one ? $hit like this happens once in a blue moon and we get jumped on like a their is no tommorow just because some crazed kid cant be brought up correctly.. Blame the parents... Come on, these communities are small and we are getting picked on. What next hey... Their is no way they can Ban games like CS , impossible... __________________ 3DMark 06 9156 Points My Main PC: AMD 64 4600 x2 socket 939 \| Gainward Bliss 8800 GTX\| Asus A8N SLI Premium Edition \| 1 x Samsung 160 gig SATA \| OCZ DIMM 2 GB DDR-400 Kit (OCZ4002048ELDCPC, Platinum) \| Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS 7.1

8th Dec 2006, 14:24	#19
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