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WilHarris · 15th Dec 2006, 11:34

http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/2006/..._Review/1.html

g3n3tiX · 15th Dec 2006, 11:37

wow, the game may not be that good, but it sure Looks good...

Narvi · 15th Dec 2006, 11:42

About the physics: It is actually more realistic for the soldier to just fall over when shot instead of flying about the place. Half Life 2 used fun Movie Physics, where shotguns are Kinetic Accelerators of Doom, but in a purpoted realism-driven game like the Rainbow Six series, such effects would be incongruous.

Chuff_72 · 15th Dec 2006, 11:52

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Originally Posted by g3n3tiX

wow, the game may not be that good, but it sure Looks good...

Only in single player my friend, check out multiplayer some time, it looks like the original xbox games... or maybe a bit worse... And since the multiplayer is where you spend most of your time you'll be looking at the alot, still good fun though.

TheSaladMan · 15th Dec 2006, 11:55

Cool review, would've liked to see some PC benchmarking though.

zr_ox · 15th Dec 2006, 12:13

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Originally Posted by Ryan Garside

However, if I shot someone in the face with a massive sniper rifle I don’t think they would just fall over limply like an overweight drunkard on a night out

Nice review however unlike the movies people dont fly 30 feet throught air when shot, even with a 50 cal Browning Rifle. They would be lucky to move much with the impact...there would be one almighty hole though.

Mythbuster tested this by hanging a 90Kg pig, they fired handguns, machine guns and high powered rifles at the swine, and it barley moved when hit.

Looks nice a nice game, would like to see it on the PC though.

TheSaladMan · 15th Dec 2006, 12:18

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Originally Posted by zr_ox

Mythbuster tested this by hanging a 90Kg pig, they fired handguns, machine guns and high powered rifles at the swine, and it barley moved when hit.

I'd say there's a big difference between something hanging up and someone standing up, the human body is quite precariously balanced on it's legs, so if something knocked you back and you couldn't steady yourself because you were dead... well it would knock you back quite a bit.

rupbert · 15th Dec 2006, 12:19

A 7? Bit low.

Chuff_72 · 15th Dec 2006, 12:28

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Originally Posted by TheSaladMan

I'd say there's a big difference between something hanging up and someone standing up, the human body is quite precariously balanced on it's legs, so if something knocked you back and you couldn't steady yourself because you were dead... well it would knock you back quite a bit.

Try an catch the episode, they're repeated all the time. The pig was held in place by only a couple of mm, if they poked it with a finger it feel off the hook, they then preceded to shoot it with about 700 rounds from every gun imaginable (bar a cannon) and produced no movement, and this was because most of the bullets went straight trough. It was very interesting actually, as we've all grown up with Hollywood shoot outs with people flying all over the place.

Anyway, they went out and actively proved it so unless you can present a valid argument I wouldn't dispute it

mikeuk2004 · 15th Dec 2006, 13:52

I still cant wait to xmas day to get my hands on my 360 with this game. I had a quick 10 minutes a week ago. Well you know, have to test that the xbox and games work as I dont want to be disapointed on xmas day :P

This game is going to be good. I love Rainbow Six. Had them all on XBOX and the original Rainbow Six on PC. Multiplayer fun

inflatable · 15th Dec 2006, 19:29

What I don't get is why Ubisoft always feels the need to seriously downgrade the graphics in MP? Especially the RS-series on consoles suffers from it.. You would think the Xbox 360 is powerfull enough, and games like GoW etc don't need it.. So why Ubisioft??

Henk · 15th Dec 2006, 20:07

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Originally Posted by zr_ox

Looks nice a nice game, would like to see it on the PC though.

Seconded.

Firehed · 15th Dec 2006, 21:52

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Originally Posted by TheSaladMan

I'd say there's a big difference between something hanging up and someone standing up, the human body is quite precariously balanced on it's legs, so if something knocked you back and you couldn't steady yourself because you were dead... well it would knock you back quite a bit.

They retested with as close to simply standing up as it possible without sacrificing a crew member. Same results. In order for the victim to get literally blown away, the firer would have to as well (every action has an equal and opposite reaction, and all that). Of course, that only applies to weaponry that doesn't include an accelerant or explosive (so, yes, you'd get blown away if hit by a stinger missile, which has both, even though the firer just gets a bit of kickback) - until guns fire little micro-rockets, a bullet simply can't knock someone over.

In fact, I'm sure I have both the original and retest episodes of Mythbusters on my hard drive somewhere, but they more than covered that exact reaction that people had to the original test.

Anyways, that said, interesting review. Not really my style of game (anymore), but a good read.

knyghtryda · 16th Dec 2006, 08:31

This reminds me of the last Rainbow Six game... All flash and not much substance. What happened Tom Clancy? Where's the nailbiting 1 hit kills and split second team work of rogue spear or Raven Shield? I played Lockdown on PC and well... I should not be able to run and gun a rainbow six game. Nor should the machine gun be most effective as an automatic sniper rifle... though I must admit, what was a lot of fun was a team full of people with long barrel auto shotguns.

malccy · 16th Dec 2006, 11:55

Is the PC version a straight port?

Just hope it's better done than the recent Splinter Cell which was so buggy it was almost unplayable.

glaeken · 17th Dec 2006, 06:53

looks good but.... HDR at night = stupid.

bahgger · 2nd Jan 2007, 19:19

I disagree with the score given, I thoroughly enjoyed the game and it was well worth the money spent. The graphics and gameplay were amazing, and although I haven't played GoW since I got this for the PC, the style which you play in is addictive to say the least. Additionally, the graphics from helicopter rides down to every bit of the maps were top notch. This, for me, was a lot like the good bits of Ghost Recon and FEAR put together. 9/10 at least!

billy83 · 18th Jan 2007, 10:38

also disagree with the score. that was one of the best games i've played in the past few months. why nitpick on such issues as the bodies not flying far enough, or the opening mission not being in vegas? separate personal opinion from professional opinion. nitpicker.

Hamish · 18th Jan 2007, 12:41

co-op terrorist hunt multiplayer is hilariously awesome

especially when you can do stupid stuff like trying to do the entire level Jack Bauer style with only a USP

15th Dec 2006, 11:34	#1
WilHarris Just another nobody Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Oxford Posts: 2,671	Rainbow Six: Vegas http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/2006/..._Review/1.html

15th Dec 2006, 11:37	#2
g3n3tiX Resident frenchie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: localhost Posts: 593	wow, the game may not be that good, but it sure Looks good... __________________ I also have a MTBF.

15th Dec 2006, 11:55	#5
TheSaladMan Multimodder Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bournemouth, Uk Posts: 135	Cool review, would've liked to see some PC benchmarking though. __________________ Hello there!

15th Dec 2006, 13:52	#10
mikeuk2004 What you Looking at Fool! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 3,052	I still cant wait to xmas day to get my hands on my 360 with this game. I had a quick 10 minutes a week ago. Well you know, have to test that the xbox and games work as I dont want to be disapointed on xmas day :P This game is going to be good. I love Rainbow Six. Had them all on XBOX and the original Rainbow Six on PC. Multiplayer fun __________________ -\|- Xfire - Mikeuk2005 -\|- Xbox Live - Mike UK 2006 -\|- Playstation Network - Mikeuk2004 -\|-

15th Dec 2006, 11:42	#3
Narvi Minimodder Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 25	About the physics: It is actually more realistic for the soldier to just fall over when shot instead of flying about the place. Half Life 2 used fun Movie Physics, where shotguns are Kinetic Accelerators of Doom, but in a purpoted realism-driven game like the Rainbow Six series, such effects would be incongruous.

15th Dec 2006, 12:19	#8
rupbert Hypermodder Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 799	A 7? Bit low.

15th Dec 2006, 19:29	#11
inflatable Minimodder Join Date: May 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 49	What I don't get is why Ubisoft always feels the need to seriously downgrade the graphics in MP? Especially the RS-series on consoles suffers from it.. You would think the Xbox 360 is powerfull enough, and games like GoW etc don't need it.. So why Ubisioft??

16th Dec 2006, 08:31	#14
knyghtryda Multimodder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Berkeley, CA Posts: 78	This reminds me of the last Rainbow Six game... All flash and not much substance. What happened Tom Clancy? Where's the nailbiting 1 hit kills and split second team work of rogue spear or Raven Shield? I played Lockdown on PC and well... I should not be able to run and gun a rainbow six game. Nor should the machine gun be most effective as an automatic sniper rifle... though I must admit, what was a lot of fun was a team full of people with long barrel auto shotguns.

16th Dec 2006, 11:55	#15
malccy Hypermodder Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dorset, UK Posts: 607	Is the PC version a straight port? Just hope it's better done than the recent Splinter Cell which was so buggy it was almost unplayable.

17th Dec 2006, 06:53	#16
glaeken Yehehehessss! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Indy, US Posts: 1,428	looks good but.... HDR at night = stupid.

2nd Jan 2007, 19:19	#17
bahgger Supermodder Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 585	I disagree with the score given, I thoroughly enjoyed the game and it was well worth the money spent. The graphics and gameplay were amazing, and although I haven't played GoW since I got this for the PC, the style which you play in is addictive to say the least. Additionally, the graphics from helicopter rides down to every bit of the maps were top notch. This, for me, was a lot like the good bits of Ghost Recon and FEAR put together. 9/10 at least!

18th Jan 2007, 10:38	#18
billy83 What's a Dremel? Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5	also disagree with the score. that was one of the best games i've played in the past few months. why nitpick on such issues as the bodies not flying far enough, or the opening mission not being in vegas? separate personal opinion from professional opinion. nitpicker.

18th Jan 2007, 12:41	#19
Hamish I Mod, Therefore I Own Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: London Posts: 3,587	co-op terrorist hunt multiplayer is hilariously awesome especially when you can do stupid stuff like trying to do the entire level Jack Bauer style with only a USP