Terrorists using Google Maps to target Brit troops - bit-tech.net Forums

Garside · 15th Jan 2007, 15:08

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/01...t_Brit_troops/

DougEdey · 15th Jan 2007, 15:11

I have google earth imagery on my computer of one British base. Because my friend is called Souter. And the Camp is Souter.

Am I a terrorist?

quack · 15th Jan 2007, 15:16

Durka durka!

TheoGeo · 15th Jan 2007, 15:25

lmao, nice choice of image

oasked · 15th Jan 2007, 15:48

What a load of BS. The images on Google are hardly up to date, they can get the same information about the lay of the land from thousands of other sources, not just google maps.

Nice choice of image again!

walle · 15th Jan 2007, 15:50

goggle is your friend

Duste · 15th Jan 2007, 16:09

Love the picture, lol.

And yeah, they should block them out. Don't they block out jails, etc...? Or was that some other map program?

Snafu-X- · 15th Jan 2007, 16:17

As much as I am for the dissemination of free information, when it comes to the safety of a large number of people, common sense has to take over. They should block military installations in combat areas, at least as long as there is active conflict in the area.

PA!N · 15th Jan 2007, 17:01

This is a very sensitiv subject, I think it is very neccecary to censor those kind of imagery thaz could be used for targeting and such...

airchie · 15th Jan 2007, 17:16

Can't the military have the maps covered up in google and then reposition the tents/huts in the base?

Pain in the bum but I'd take a pain in the bum over an RPG in the bum any day... :/

WarMachine · 15th Jan 2007, 17:21

While I agree that this is a tragic use of a wonderfully informative app, when you get down to brass tacks, it's really no different than an enemy using local maps to formulate an attack strategy.

Call me what you will, but I don't feel right complaining that the enemy is using any resource they can to fight their side of the war.

Homo sapiens are a very resourceful enemy to face on the field of battle. We adapt to survive, and we tend to make use of any and everything that is at hand to ensure victory, no matter what side of a conflict we may be on.

We (Americans and other coalition forces) use satellites and precision laser-guided weapons of destruction, and we're going to get our panties in a twist because the enemy knows how to read a map?

Edit: And as far as showing the location of individual buildings on a base, that isn't anything an enemy can't determine from a few hours' recon.

Regenesis · 15th Jan 2007, 19:48

It'd be logical to censor such installations out of safety. However, if they assume that terrorists use google maps then why not use it to their advantage and "falsify" certain areas? It could be a pain but it could be a strategic resource.

Rich_13 · 15th Jan 2007, 21:03

so are we not using this against them? don't tell me we don't have better intel on them..

come on, this is war, what's fair about it....

edit: i'd rather have large civilian gatherings censored for safety and the images are no where near upto date.

leonardob80 · 15th Jan 2007, 21:28

easy solution.... take your troops out of there. (irak... not muve the base)

leonardob80 · 15th Jan 2007, 21:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regenesis

It'd be logical to censor such installations out of safety. However, if they assume that terrorists use google maps then why not use it to their advantage and "falsify" certain areas? It could be a pain but it could be a strategic resource.

at WWII british intelligence used ruber tanks, trucks and buildings to confuse luftwafe air photos... that was at Africa (agiants Romell africankorps)... and it was a sucesful operation... why no take notes of history?

Ringold · 15th Jan 2007, 23:29

On the one hand, censoring sets up a precedent for the government to take information away from us.

On the other hand, this shouldn't be an issue, 'cause Google, I think, should blank out parts of its map upon request when security is an issue. Ideally, going forward, they'd filter what gets provided so that instead of moving things reactively they're doing it proactively.

Maybe that's too subtle, but there's a difference; Google doing so willingly versus a politician forcing it do something. I'm all about the liberty

HourBeforeDawn · 16th Jan 2007, 00:46

well I didnt read any previous post but wouldnt the easiest solution is to not allow the ability to look up maps of military locations that are stationary for such things?
But in any case ohwell Im sure it will all work out in the end

Darkedge · 16th Jan 2007, 01:36

what a load of donkeys dropping.. they have better information from people on the ground and google isn't that up to date in most areas anyway. If it is, the installation has been there for ages and they have it well planned out anyway, a google map/image is only a convenience
Get over it

Perforated · 16th Jan 2007, 01:37

Meh. Google, please take it down, before we get more laws. That's about the biggest concern for me, here - show some discretion, 'cos bloody legislators won't.

It's not something anyone needs to see,really. To the comment "it only takes a few hours' recon" - a few hours is quite a lot, really, and anyway why make it any easier?

'Course, the ideal solution...? Yank everyone out. It was a silly idea anyway.

mikeuk2004 · 16th Jan 2007, 12:49

some ares on goole maps is about 5 years + out of date. so I dont see how they can be worried.

Where I live in sheffield a new building has been standing for 3 years now and google maps still show a deserted waste land and not the building thats been her for years.

Google maps is one of the best inventions in the world allowing anyone to beable to see places they would never see in their lifetime. cant take it away.

15th Jan 2007, 15:08	#1
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15th Jan 2007, 15:11	#2
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15th Jan 2007, 16:09	#7
Duste Sierra my delta, bravo! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: WA, Australia Posts: 812	Love the picture, lol. And yeah, they should block them out. Don't they block out jails, etc...? Or was that some other map program?

15th Jan 2007, 16:17	#8
Snafu-X- Multimodder Join Date: May 2005 Location: KY, USA Posts: 131	As much as I am for the dissemination of free information, when it comes to the safety of a large number of people, common sense has to take over. They should block military installations in combat areas, at least as long as there is active conflict in the area. __________________ Careful. We don't want to learn anything from this.

15th Jan 2007, 17:21	#11
WarMachine American Swine Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Deep South Posts: 35	While I agree that this is a tragic use of a wonderfully informative app, when you get down to brass tacks, it's really no different than an enemy using local maps to formulate an attack strategy. Call me what you will, but I don't feel right complaining that the enemy is using any resource they can to fight their side of the war. Homo sapiens are a very resourceful enemy to face on the field of battle. We adapt to survive, and we tend to make use of any and everything that is at hand to ensure victory, no matter what side of a conflict we may be on. We (Americans and other coalition forces) use satellites and precision laser-guided weapons of destruction, and we're going to get our panties in a twist because the enemy knows how to read a map? Edit: And as far as showing the location of individual buildings on a base, that isn't anything an enemy can't determine from a few hours' recon. __________________ Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must live. -Charles Bukowski

15th Jan 2007, 19:48	#12
Regenesis What's a Dremel? Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Winterpeg, Canada Posts: 13	It'd be logical to censor such installations out of safety. However, if they assume that terrorists use google maps then why not use it to their advantage and "falsify" certain areas? It could be a pain but it could be a strategic resource.

15th Jan 2007, 21:03	#13
Rich_13 Hypermodder Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London /Essex Uni Posts: 716	so are we not using this against them? don't tell me we don't have better intel on them.. come on, this is war, what's fair about it.... edit: i'd rather have large civilian gatherings censored for safety and the images are no where near upto date. __________________ [Gaming laptop:][Intel Cour Duo2 T7200 ] [Nvidia7900GS GO] [1920x1200 display] [2GB DDR][Creative 6.1's ] My blog

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leonardob80 What's a Dremel? Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Argentina Posts: 11	easy solution.... take your troops out of there. (irak... not muve the base) __________________ Sig removed by Pookeyhead - No picture sigs allowed... especially those that don't actually work.

15th Jan 2007, 23:29	#16
Ringold Minimodder Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 48	On the one hand, censoring sets up a precedent for the government to take information away from us. On the other hand, this shouldn't be an issue, 'cause Google, I think, should blank out parts of its map upon request when security is an issue. Ideally, going forward, they'd filter what gets provided so that instead of moving things reactively they're doing it proactively. Maybe that's too subtle, but there's a difference; Google doing so willingly versus a politician forcing it do something. I'm all about the liberty

16th Jan 2007, 00:46	#17
HourBeforeDawn a.k.a KazeModz Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cali, USA Posts: 1,796	well I didnt read any previous post but wouldnt the easiest solution is to not allow the ability to look up maps of military locations that are stationary for such things? But in any case ohwell Im sure it will all work out in the end __________________ Current Rig: RubyRED • Lian-Li A05B • (2) Swiftech 220 Radiators • (2) D5 Variable Pumps • (2) Res • and a whole lot of modding • Retired Rig: Project F.E.A.R. • TT Lanbox Lite • Swiftech H2O-120 • Q6600 G0 OC@3.6ghz • 2900XT • 4gb SuperTalent Memory •

16th Jan 2007, 01:36	#18
Darkedge Supermodder Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: UK Posts: 334	what a load of donkeys dropping.. they have better information from people on the ground and google isn't that up to date in most areas anyway. If it is, the installation has been there for ages and they have it well planned out anyway, a google map/image is only a convenience Get over it

16th Jan 2007, 01:37	#19
Perforated Modder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 65	Meh. Google, please take it down, before we get more laws. That's about the biggest concern for me, here - show some discretion, 'cos bloody legislators won't. It's not something anyone needs to see,really. To the comment "it only takes a few hours' recon" - a few hours is quite a lot, really, and anyway why make it any easier? 'Course, the ideal solution...? Yank everyone out. It was a silly idea anyway.

16th Jan 2007, 12:49	#20
mikeuk2004 What you Looking at Fool! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 3,051	some ares on goole maps is about 5 years + out of date. so I dont see how they can be worried. Where I live in sheffield a new building has been standing for 3 years now and google maps still show a deserted waste land and not the building thats been her for years. Google maps is one of the best inventions in the world allowing anyone to beable to see places they would never see in their lifetime. cant take it away. __________________ -\|- Xfire - Mikeuk2005 -\|- Xbox Live - Mike UK 2006 -\|- Playstation Network - Mikeuk2004 -\|-