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Tim S · 19th Jan 2007, 15:38

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...00_t2rg/1.html

Mother-Goose · 19th Jan 2007, 16:10

Nice article rich. Doesn't sound like the best board out there at the moment (from stock especially, but thats not the point is it) but nice to read a subjective view of the RD600

samkiller42 · 19th Jan 2007, 17:13

Thats quite interesting to see the difference between the Striker and this board, but i think the Striker is the better buy

Im not an Asus fan, honest.

And how come Tims hosted it when bindi wrote it all, Tims getting all the credit

Tim S · 19th Jan 2007, 17:15

We'll have a full review on the Striker next week all being well, I've got a full production BIOS now.

Da Dego · 19th Jan 2007, 18:05

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Originally Posted by samkiller42

And how come Tims hosted it when bindi wrote it all, Tims getting all the credit

lol

That's one of the fun parts - You never know who's going to actually make the thread for the article

Rich was busy at the moment when Tim got done with our editing procedure, so he put it up instead. We're sneaky like that...ninja, even.

Gravemind123 · 19th Jan 2007, 18:08

Wow...I don't even know what half the BIOS settings do...that's how I know a board is a LanParty! It's still cheaper then an Asus Commando P965 board in the US, and much less then any of the Asus 680i boards(a whole $150 less then the Striker!), so the price seems reasonable to me. I could never afford any of these boards anyway...

Tyinsar · 19th Jan 2007, 18:19

I'd consider it just so I could run an Intel CPU on an AMD chipset with an Nvidia GPU.

Seriously though, every time I look at overclocking hardware I think that I could just buy a cheaper board and a better CPU and get higher speed guaranteed. It seems to me that serious overclocking (I'm a mild overclocker) is as much of a "lifestyle choice" as playing WOW etc.

Bindibadgi · 19th Jan 2007, 18:47

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Originally Posted by Gravemind123

Wow...I don't even know what half the BIOS settings do...that's how I know a board is a LanParty! It's still cheaper then an Asus Commando P965 board in the US, and much less then any of the Asus 680i boards(a whole $150 less then the Striker!), so the price seems reasonable to me. I could never afford any of these boards anyway...

In the UK the Commando is £35 cheaper than the DFI.

gvblake22 · 19th Jan 2007, 19:08

Great Review!!!!!!!

Thank you. I imagine that would have taken a lot of time and effort to put together, but it was very interesting and informational to read. Seems to me like another DFI board with more BIOS options than you know what to do with (making it overclocking heaven for serious tweakers). I really like the layout though, seems very nice and user friendly.

Jodiuh · 19th Jan 2007, 19:49

Nice read guys. Will we see a DFI 965P board? I don't particularly care for my P5B and long for the days of Abit NF7/IC7 DFI nf3 250GB/nf4 expert.

Tim S · 19th Jan 2007, 19:54

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Originally Posted by Jodiuh

Nice read guys. Will we see a DFI 965P board? I don't particularly care for my P5B and long for the days of Abit NF7/IC7 DFI nf3 250GB/nf4 expert.

I honestly don't know, I've been certainly been pushing/hoping for one... still no luck though

Bindibadgi · 19th Jan 2007, 20:58

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Originally Posted by Jodiuh

Nice read guys. Will we see a DFI 965P board? I don't particularly care for my P5B and long for the days of Abit NF7/IC7 DFI nf3 250GB/nf4 expert.

DFI are BIOS guys, and I've heard Intel rarely give much out other than the basic registers when they release a chipset because they don't want people overclocking. This means all the extra work on Intel chipsets is done by the company making the motherboard reverse engineering and debugging the chipset. AFAIK, luckily quite a few registers don't change so the initial work is easy, but to get it done well takes a while. This is also why some companies like DFI with their 975X infinity, and the Gigabyte P965 DS3/DQ6 have taken months to get a really OC friendly BIOS out. Gigabyte is on F9 now. Companies like ATI or NV are more likely to go the extra mile because they are smaller and need to get that edge in order to make it a more appealing product.

BUFF · 19th Jan 2007, 21:21

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Originally Posted by Jodiuh

Nice read guys. Will we see a DFI 965P board? I don't particularly care for my P5B and long for the days of Abit NF7/IC7 DFI nf3 250GB/nf4 expert.

there's some pics/screenies on XS of a DFI Infinity 965 but it's probably months away.
Meantime the abit AB9 QuadGT is already reported to be doing 520+fsb but still on the 1067 strap (Gary Key in Anandtech's forum) ...

Nice review of the DFI RD600 though guys, it pretty much confirms my initial thoughts as not for me.

Pookeyhead · 19th Jan 2007, 22:31

About ****ing time DFI started releasing enthusiast boards for Core2. Good article. Was expecting the board to be better however. I await the striker review

r4tch3t · 20th Jan 2007, 08:17

Great review as always
And >100°C on the NB that is just crazy.

little typo

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Originally Posted by The Article

it's also a bit flimsier even with the additional plastic support (not shown above).

should be below.

[USRF]Obiwan · 20th Jan 2007, 10:49

Hmmm after reading this, i want to overclock my asus deluxe again

Nice thought out review. Must have taken ages to write with all the bios settings!

eva2000 · 20th Jan 2007, 17:53

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Originally Posted by Tim S

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...00_t2rg/1.html

Very nice informative piece on the bios settings

Just have a question about the maths here

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The CPU Core GTLRef values range from 1 to 255, with each value representing approximately 0.00153V, so the stock value of 48 represents a cut off voltage of 0.70V, out of typically 1.21V. Increasing this offers values of typically: 72 = 0.74V, 96 = 0.77V, 120 = 0.81V.

The Northbridge GTLRef values also range from 1 to 255 but each value represents 0.00146V, so a stock value of 128 = 0.86V. Increasing this offers values of typically: 144 = 0.88V, 160 = 0.91V, 176 = 0.93V.

CPU GTL value = 0.00153v per step and 48 = 0.70V but 0.70/48 = 0.014583333

NB GTL ref value = 0.00146 per step and 128 = 0.86v but 0.86v /128 = 0.00671875

Bindibadgi · 20th Jan 2007, 18:45

That's a good point. I was merely quoting DFI from their wiki on the subject that included those values. It was a long morning and I didn't have time to confirm them, I just assumed they were correct. I spent the best part of 2 days trying to work it out by hand beforehand.
http://csd.dficlub.org/tikiwiki192/t...hp?page=GtlRef

After reading it again, I'm still unsure of the actual voltage numbers: either the quoted voltages or increments are incorrect, but the principle is right though.

Starbuck3733T · 20th Jan 2007, 19:39

I love these things for the tweak settings out the arse, but geez DFI know how to make an ugly board. Lose the neon crap, replace with all-black like the Abit AW9D-Max...

It's too bad the MAX of today is nothing like the max of the olden days.

19th Jan 2007, 15:38	#1
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Mother-Goose Tories ftw! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: England - Surrey Posts: 3,750	Nice article rich. Doesn't sound like the best board out there at the moment (from stock especially, but thats not the point is it) but nice to read a subjective view of the RD600 __________________ Goose Q6600, Striker Extreme, 4GB 6400C4 Dominator DHX, Raptor X, 2x400GB spinpoints, BFG 8800GTX OC, Stacker 830 Evo, HX620, Nova T 500, Freezer 7 Pro

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samkiller42 KEEP IT CLEAN! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Havant, Hampshire, England Posts: 3,184	Thats quite interesting to see the difference between the Striker and this board, but i think the Striker is the better buy Im not an Asus fan, honest. And how come Tims hosted it when bindi wrote it all, Tims getting all the credit __________________ The Rig: i7 920 D0, Gigabyte EX58-UD5, 12GB DDR3 1600mhz, BFG GTX295, Samsung 64gb SSD, WD 640gb Black, Samsung F2 Eco 1TB, Dell 3007WFP, Windows 7 RC. The Netbook: Samsung NC10 Black, Intel Atom, 2gb DDR2 Xbox Live: samkiller42¦PSN: samkiller42¦Bungie: samkiller42

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Gravemind123 avatar not found Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Elmhurst, IL, USA Posts: 1,772	Wow...I don't even know what half the BIOS settings do...that's how I know a board is a LanParty! It's still cheaper then an Asus Commando P965 board in the US, and much less then any of the Asus 680i boards(a whole $150 less then the Striker!), so the price seems reasonable to me. I could never afford any of these boards anyway... __________________ E4400 - Asus P5B-Plus - Antec NeoHE 500 - 4GB OCZ SLI XTC - EVGA 8800GT - 250GB WD + 320GB Seagate Lian-Li PC-61 - Zalman Cooling - Creative GigaWorks T20 - AG Neovo M-17 Dell XPS M1330 - T8300 - 4GB Ram - 8400M GS - 250GB HDD

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Tyinsar 6 screens / 1 card Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: AB.CA Posts: 2,005	I'd consider it just so I could run an Intel CPU on an AMD chipset with an Nvidia GPU. Seriously though, every time I look at overclocking hardware I think that I could just buy a cheaper board and a better CPU and get higher speed guaranteed. It seems to me that serious overclocking (I'm a mild overclocker) is as much of a "lifestyle choice" as playing WOW etc. __________________ It's not about how life treats you, it's about how you treat life.

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gvblake22 mmm, yep Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 367	Great Review!!!!!!! Thank you. I imagine that would have taken a lot of time and effort to put together, but it was very interesting and informational to read. Seems to me like another DFI board with more BIOS options than you know what to do with (making it overclocking heaven for serious tweakers). I really like the layout though, seems very nice and user friendly. __________________ Finished:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~In Progress: Project Phoenix (Lian Li PC-101B Orange Case Mod) The "Secret of the Ooze" Modded Tt MatrixVX Modded Cooler Master Cavalier 3 My First Case Mod

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Jodiuh Multimodder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 77	Nice read guys. Will we see a DFI 965P board? I don't particularly care for my P5B and long for the days of Abit NF7/IC7 DFI nf3 250GB/nf4 expert.

19th Jan 2007, 22:31	#14
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20th Jan 2007, 10:49	#16
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20th Jan 2007, 18:45	#18
Bindibadgi Richard Swinburne bit-tech Staff Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Omnipwntent Posts: 28,259	That's a good point. I was merely quoting DFI from their wiki on the subject that included those values. It was a long morning and I didn't have time to confirm them, I just assumed they were correct. I spent the best part of 2 days trying to work it out by hand beforehand. http://csd.dficlub.org/tikiwiki192/t...hp?page=GtlRef After reading it again, I'm still unsure of the actual voltage numbers: either the quoted voltages or increments are incorrect, but the principle is right though. __________________ Made you look, made you stare, made you clicked this in your underwear! Den of Geek!

20th Jan 2007, 19:39	#19
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