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Tim S · 25th Jan 2007, 14:29

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...7500_p2/1.html

Paradigm Shifter · 25th Jan 2007, 14:47

Three main thoughts, really...

1) It's good to see that they can get Blu-ray right.

2) Proprietary power connector: bad.

3) Price. Ouch.

Good review, as always. Did you run it through your normal high-level stress test, or did I miss that mention?

trig · 25th Jan 2007, 15:13

awesome that there is an evga board out that works...
too pricey. sure they added some nice perks in the power button head and power supplied to the door, but still...and the ram...omg...get it right already...

plagio · 25th Jan 2007, 15:18

That is a fantastic PC as always.

Can't honestly understand why a X-FI extremegamer !
Also, I would prefer to have a couple of 10000 rpm hard disks either in mirroring or in striping (for performance) and that 500 GIGA disk (which, I presume is 7200 rpm) as the data drive.

Lazlow · 25th Jan 2007, 15:59

I too was surprised by the lack of an additional drive for the O/S - perhaps a 150GB Raptor? A lot of the really high end systems are shipping with two 500GB data drives too.

Overall though, it looks like Alienware is slowly listening and improving.

BioSniper · 25th Jan 2007, 16:08

Where is that proprietary power connector? I think the article failed to mention it and I sure as hell couldn't see it.

It's an interesting system for sure and its a nice touch that the alien head is the power button but I'm one of those that will get hung up on the price tag. Of course specing up a similar system your self will run to similar prices but via overclockers you can buy that lot retail (or nearly the same stuff) for about 300 quid less so in all fairness it's not too bad I guess. I just can't see why someone wouldn't put that 3k down on a house or car though instead

Tim S · 25th Jan 2007, 16:09

It's on the back of the PSU - you need an Alienware supplied kettle lead.

naokaji · 25th Jan 2007, 16:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazlow

I too was surprised by the lack of an additional drive for the O/S - perhaps a 150GB Raptor? A lot of the really high end systems are shipping with two 500GB data drives too.

Overall though, it looks like Alienware is slowly listening and improving.

personally i'd go for 2x 150 GB Raptor's in raid 0 and 2x 750 GB Seagate babys in raid 1 for such a highend system. (i know it sounds like overkill, but that would be about the equivalent of 2x 8800gtx cards if it comes to hdd's

)

they could have put in some nice corsair dominator ram

but, otherwise a very nice system, except for the price tag... but well...

duc · 25th Jan 2007, 16:17

The Alienware case is a bit dated now though. Only one hard drive!

If Alienware were to have two 8800GTS in SLI and more storage options, would that have resulted in a better or same overall score from a reviewers perspective?

BioSniper · 25th Jan 2007, 16:18

Ah, I see it now. Shows how much attention I SHOULD pay to things when I read them

In some ways I would love to cry "that's stupid" but from a marketing point of view I guess they can then sell those power cables to the paying public at an extortionate rate should they require a spare/replacement.
It's still a pretty bad ethic though.

oasked · 25th Jan 2007, 16:19

Wow, that thing is expensive. Looking at OCUK, a system like that, but with a QX6700 comes to £2800.

Having said that, it would only be £2300 if you didn't include the pointless Blu-Ray drive.

AClark · 25th Jan 2007, 16:30

I've always been a fan of Alienware machines. The styling is what got me attracted and then the usually pretty insane specifications are good too, however I don't see the need for a Blu-Ray drive yet and a machine like this really deserves more storage!

However, Alienware rock and the prices are huge! Maybe one day I'll buy one but I can't see it being anytime soon.

Dustin · 25th Jan 2007, 16:30

Why would you get 2x 8800GTX and X6800 without decent ram?
800mhz 5-5-5-16- 2T seriously?

plagio · 25th Jan 2007, 16:53

those propietary power plugs are quite common these days. I have seen them on HP server and on some sgi machines. It won't be too difficult to find one in case yours get broken.
Still, we didn't need another plug standard

Techno-Dann · 25th Jan 2007, 17:12

You know you've been working with computers for too long when you look at that first exterior shot of the back of the machine, and think "eVGA i680, 8800s in SLI, and an x-Fi eXtremeGamer."

Tim S · 25th Jan 2007, 17:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Techno-Dann

You know you've been working with computers for too long when you look at that first exterior shot of the back of the machine, and think "eVGA i680, 8800s in SLI, and an x-Fi eXtremeGamer."

samkiller42 · 25th Jan 2007, 17:41

That case looks nasty, it truely diserves to live in a scrap yard, and the price tag, well, i wont even go there. One thing i dont like about alienware is the fact you pay extra, thats extra for a system restore disk

Bad bad move.

How much of the price goes to alienware and dell?

Sam

IanW · 25th Jan 2007, 18:17

That PSU connector looks like a 16A rated IEC socket. (I use them at work)
The standard "kettle leads" are rated at 10A max.

Mankz · 25th Jan 2007, 19:15

I think if Alienware sold that case with the LED's and the software, Alienware would be onto a right winner.

David_Fitzy · 25th Jan 2007, 20:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Article

beating out the Striker in file decompression by just a second - this is down to the faster hard drive in the Alienware.

So what was the Alienware's HDD (did i miss it?) all i saw was it's a seagate 500G. Striker's was "Seagate 7200.9 200GB 7200RPM SATA 3Gbps"

Maybe you should have changed the striker system to a SLI 8800GTX GPU setup for better 3D comparison.

25th Jan 2007, 14:29	#1
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25th Jan 2007, 15:18	#4
plagio Multimodder Join Date: May 2004 Location: Rome, Italy Posts: 141	That is a fantastic PC as always. Can't honestly understand why a X-FI extremegamer ! Also, I would prefer to have a couple of 10000 rpm hard disks either in mirroring or in striping (for performance) and that 500 GIGA disk (which, I presume is 7200 rpm) as the data drive. Last edited by plagio; 25th Jan 2007 at 15:20. Reason: typo (sorry, I am Italian)

25th Jan 2007, 15:59	#5
Lazlow I have a dremel. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Lincoln, UK Posts: 1,464	I too was surprised by the lack of an additional drive for the O/S - perhaps a 150GB Raptor? A lot of the really high end systems are shipping with two 500GB data drives too. Overall though, it looks like Alienware is slowly listening and improving. __________________ Logs: Red Nineteen\|Pink PC Links: slickhouse.com\|Free file upload

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BioSniper I Mod, Therefore I Own Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Somewhere in the south Posts: 3,462	Where is that proprietary power connector? I think the article failed to mention it and I sure as hell couldn't see it. It's an interesting system for sure and its a nice touch that the alien head is the power button but I'm one of those that will get hung up on the price tag. Of course specing up a similar system your self will run to similar prices but via overclockers you can buy that lot retail (or nearly the same stuff) for about 300 quid less so in all fairness it's not too bad I guess. I just can't see why someone wouldn't put that 3k down on a house or car though instead __________________ My Flickr :: Bit-tech Flickr Wii: 1792 1527 2926 7945 :: Xbox Live: BioSnipr :: PSN: Biosnipr

25th Jan 2007, 16:09	#7
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25th Jan 2007, 16:17	#9
duc Minimodder Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 37	The Alienware case is a bit dated now though. Only one hard drive! If Alienware were to have two 8800GTS in SLI and more storage options, would that have resulted in a better or same overall score from a reviewers perspective?

25th Jan 2007, 16:18	#10
BioSniper I Mod, Therefore I Own Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Somewhere in the south Posts: 3,462	Ah, I see it now. Shows how much attention I SHOULD pay to things when I read them In some ways I would love to cry "that's stupid" but from a marketing point of view I guess they can then sell those power cables to the paying public at an extortionate rate should they require a spare/replacement. It's still a pretty bad ethic though. __________________ My Flickr :: Bit-tech Flickr Wii: 1792 1527 2926 7945 :: Xbox Live: BioSnipr :: PSN: Biosnipr

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oasked Stuck in the Mud Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bromley, Kent Posts: 2,552	Wow, that thing is expensive. Looking at OCUK, a system like that, but with a QX6700 comes to £2800. Having said that, it would only be £2300 if you didn't include the pointless Blu-Ray drive. __________________ Intel i7 920 @ Stock \| 6GB Corsair DDR3\| Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 WD640 AALS \| POV 8800GT \| Lian-Li PC65 \| Enermax 600W SLI \| Dell 2408WFP

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AClark What's a Dremel? Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Guisborough, UK Posts: 18	I've always been a fan of Alienware machines. The styling is what got me attracted and then the usually pretty insane specifications are good too, however I don't see the need for a Blu-Ray drive yet and a machine like this really deserves more storage! However, Alienware rock and the prices are huge! Maybe one day I'll buy one but I can't see it being anytime soon.

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25th Jan 2007, 16:53	#14
plagio Multimodder Join Date: May 2004 Location: Rome, Italy Posts: 141	those propietary power plugs are quite common these days. I have seen them on HP server and on some sgi machines. It won't be too difficult to find one in case yours get broken. Still, we didn't need another plug standard

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25th Jan 2007, 18:17	#18
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