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Tim S · 31st Jan 2007, 12:55

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/01..._via_loophole/

rupbert · 31st Jan 2007, 13:03

How can they stop it though without forcing the serial number to be entered on installation?

Hepath · 31st Jan 2007, 13:03

Standard MS product testing!

Mind you glad of this as having to reinstall 2 operating systems would have been a right royal PITA!

Paradigm Shifter · 31st Jan 2007, 13:26

Hang on, does the 30 day trial allow you to enter a serial at the end of it, or does it lock you out irrevocably and require you to reinstall? If it's the former, why the double install hassle? Surely a single install then clocking the date forward to force serial entry/activation will be sufficient...

Of course, if it's the latter, then it doesn't work.

rupbert · 31st Jan 2007, 14:06

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Originally Posted by Paradigm Shifter

Hang on, does the 30 day trial allow you to enter a serial at the end of it, or does it lock you out irrevocably and require you to reinstall? If it's the former, why the double install hassle? Surely a single install then clocking the date forward to force serial entry/activation will be sufficient...

Of course, if it's the latter, then it doesn't work.

It's the former.

Phil Rhodes · 31st Jan 2007, 14:18

Hi,

I think it's fairly clear this is the sort of thing that'll be closed down fairly soon, so we'll end up doing two installs.

What really gets up my nose is that this is all based on the ridiculous, arrogant Microsoft fantasy that you don't have to reinstall yearly. Obviously, Windows is so perfect and longlived that you never have to reinstall it, so this isn't a problem, is it!

Oh, no. Just a sec.

Phil

rupbert · 31st Jan 2007, 14:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Rhodes

Hi,

I think it's fairly clear this is the sort of thing that'll be closed down fairly soon, so we'll end up doing two installs.

What really gets up my nose is that this is all based on the ridiculous, arrogant Microsoft fantasy that you don't have to reinstall yearly. Obviously, Windows is so perfect and longlived that you never have to reinstall it, so this isn't a problem, is it!

Oh, no. Just a sec.

Phil

Yeah personally I reformat every 8 months; I use an image that I create after the initial install and setup and just use Acronis DriveImage to quickly shadow it onto the drive...

Mother-Goose · 31st Jan 2007, 14:42

rupbert, might have to ask you about how that works at a later date me thinks. Am I right in thinking it is only the OEM version that is affected by this lockdown or is it retail as well?

Paradigm Shifter · 31st Jan 2007, 14:43

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Originally Posted by rupbert

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paradigm Shifter

Hang on, does the 30 day trial allow you to enter a serial at the end of it, or does it lock you out irrevocably and require you to reinstall? If it's the former, why the double install hassle? Surely a single install then clocking the date forward to force serial entry/activation will be sufficient...

Of course, if it's the latter, then it doesn't work.

It's the former.

OK.

So I just discovered an even easier work around?

And how exactly, did this "workaround" spread around the web when there is an easier (and even more obvious) way?

Tim S · 31st Jan 2007, 14:49

I don't know whether the latter works because you're not "upgrading" anything.

Mother-Goose · 31st Jan 2007, 15:10

I'm assuming people buying the upgrade ed. would get the retail version as the full OEM isn't much more?!

Paradigm Shifter · 31st Jan 2007, 15:25

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Originally Posted by Tim S

I don't know whether the latter works because you're not "upgrading" anything.

Well, yes, exactly.

I've not got a release copy of Vista to test this - last build I've got is RC2.

DXR_13KE · 31st Jan 2007, 20:54

i think the OEM version is cheaper than the upgrade.....

The Bart Man · 31st Jan 2007, 21:44

The OEM version should be the same as the retail version only you don't get any support. The upgrade version is cheaper then te retail but more expesive then the OEM. But if this workaround works (witch is a verry simpel one) that could safe a lot of money. Would it be possible for microsoft to track you down if you installed it this way?!

Constructacon · 31st Jan 2007, 23:10

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Originally Posted by The Bart Man

The OEM version should be the same as the retail version only you don't get any support. The upgrade version is cheaper then te retail but more expesive then the OEM. But if this workaround works (witch is a verry simpel one) that could safe a lot of money. Would it be possible for microsoft to track you down if you installed it this way?!

Why would they bother? You've bought a legitimate version of the software and installed it (even if not exactly how they wanted you to). The PR fiasco would not be worth their time (or loss of profits) if they shut down people who bought legitimate software and stopped them using it for something this silly.

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Phil Rhodes Supermodder Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 574	Hi, I think it's fairly clear this is the sort of thing that'll be closed down fairly soon, so we'll end up doing two installs. What really gets up my nose is that this is all based on the ridiculous, arrogant Microsoft fantasy that you don't have to reinstall yearly. Obviously, Windows is so perfect and longlived that you never have to reinstall it, so this isn't a problem, is it! Oh, no. Just a sec. Phil

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31st Jan 2007, 21:44	#14
The Bart Man Modder Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 52	The OEM version should be the same as the retail version only you don't get any support. The upgrade version is cheaper then te retail but more expesive then the OEM. But if this workaround works (witch is a verry simpel one) that could safe a lot of money. Would it be possible for microsoft to track you down if you installed it this way?!