Printers to get interesting again thanks to Kodak - bit-tech.net Forums

Bindibadgi · 6th Feb 2007, 16:39

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/02...er_ink_prices/

TomH · 6th Feb 2007, 16:48

Cheap! But who in their right mind would have one? Kodak don't do "quality".

The only positive suggestion from this story, is that it could (and probably shall) spark a price war.

Nothing beats a good Fuji lab (on quality OR price).

Zut · 6th Feb 2007, 16:55

I'm really sorry but this kinda reads like an advert. Plus isn't TrustedReviews more the sort of place for printer stuff?

Skutbag · 6th Feb 2007, 17:01

Frankly, bargain!

True, it still wonder be proper lab quality stuff, but as the big camera phone revolution showed us; quality isnt everything.

Factoid: There have been more camera phones sold in about 3 years than there have been 'proper' cameras in about 200 years.

Veles · 6th Feb 2007, 17:36

Glad to hear this, printer cartridges can be horribly expensive, Lexmark probably being the worst of the bunch, it can actually be cheaper to buy of of thier low end printer that comes with the cartridges than it is to buy a full new set.

Malfoleo · 6th Feb 2007, 18:04

Why is this news again? The brand-name ink for my canon is $10 for black and $15 for colour. Has been for the past year and a half.

Flibblebot · 6th Feb 2007, 18:25

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Originally Posted by Skutbag

Frankly, bargain!

True, it still wonder be proper lab quality stuff, but as the big camera phone revolution showed us; quality isnt everything.

Factoid: There have been more camera phones sold in about 3 years than there have been 'proper' cameras in about 200 years.

Have you tried to buy a mobile without a camera...? The fact that my mobile has a camera doesn't mean I'll ever use it.

As for cheap Kodak printers, I don't think I'll be buying one. I have my Canon Pixma for printing quality photo prints, and my laser printer for printing quality documents.

Bindibadgi · 6th Feb 2007, 19:30

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Originally Posted by Zut

I'm really sorry but this kinda reads like an advert. Plus isn't TrustedReviews more the sort of place for printer stuff?

Well I figured varying a little might be useful to some people. Sure TR do this sort of thing but many people here still may need a printer and prices coming down is good for everyone. If no-name brands have to compete then they will go cheaper as well: everybody wins.

Malf: Don't canon sell each colour individually? They used to when I worked for DSG.

TomH · 6th Feb 2007, 19:52

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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi

Malf: Don't canon sell each colour individually? They used to when I worked for DSG.

The ink jet cartridges are back to black/colour/photo across the Pixma range now.

The Selphy range are, bar a few, dye-sub so just a single cartridge.

Tyinsar · 6th Feb 2007, 20:11

I print so little (and the air is so dry here) that my ink cartridges dry out when I've only used them a couple of times. The last time I even had an inkjet connected was a few years ago. What I'm really wanting is quality colour laser printers at a good price - until then I won't be interested in printers.

David_Fitzy · 6th Feb 2007, 20:20

I hate printers I use them so infrequently that every time I need to use mine I have to replace the heads as the ink has dried solid through the entire system. I want a cheap colour laser printer to be produced with cheap toner cartridges.

DXR_13KE · 6th Feb 2007, 22:45

"hopefully sparking some price wars to ultimately benefit the consumer."

music to my ears.....

Adnuo · 7th Feb 2007, 04:13

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Despite the good £:$ rate at the moment, this could mean anything between £5-£10 in the UK.

I believe you meant "due to" rather than "despite". Despite carries a negative connotation, and makes following statement seem like a bad thing, which I assume you don't mean it to.

I just went out and bought Vivera inks for my HP printer, and at wholesale prices it cost me $40 for a package including two black inks and a color ink. It was an $80 printer with a card reader, flatbed scanner, PC-less printing, and 22 black PPM. Honestly, this Kodak entry is nice because between them, Konica Minolta, and AGFA, they nearly make up the entire professional market, but it seems a bit late in the game. 3 years ago, before cartridge economics became a big focus, I believe they could have made a killing.

In the end, it will probably all come down to how well they market it. And Kodak tend to have very impressive marketing.

Stuey · 7th Feb 2007, 05:07

I'm happy with my Canon multifunction. A pigment black, and dye black, cyan, magenta, yellow for $14 each or 4 for $43. $10 off coupons for the office supply stores make it even sweeter.

A price war? Doubtful. Maybe in the smaller 4x6 printer market, but I don't think those sell as well as multifunctions or photo printers these days.

Enforcer · 7th Feb 2007, 08:25

I'm still trying to figure out how their going to get rid of all those chemicals sitting in my backyard?

Bindibadgi · 7th Feb 2007, 09:16

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Originally Posted by Adnuo

I believe you meant "due to" rather than "despite". Despite carries a negative connotation, and makes following statement seem like a bad thing, which I assume you don't mean it to.

I was aiming for a negative when I started the sentance, but then it turned into a positive

Like how £5 would be a no brainer and a 1:1 price conversion, considering the exchange rate, but £10 seems quite a bit more expensive and a more realistic price considering rip off Britain.

Pricester · 7th Feb 2007, 09:18

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This is set to change however since Kodak is going to take on the market dominated by HP, and produce a range of Easyshare printers with toner ink that costs $10 for black and $15 for colour.

Please - edit the article... Maybe I'm wrong, but when I read the word Toner, I think Laser printers, and "toner ink" is a contradiction. In fact, I read the whole article assuming that this must have been a laser printer, since £10 for inkjet ink is nothing new to me - had to go back to the source article to correct my misconception

Edit: Took out my comment on the £:$ thing, since it's already been made as I was posting!

Cthippo · 7th Feb 2007, 13:04

I'm holding out for a networked color inkjet that does 19x19 and has good linux drivers. Done with small, cheap color printers.

David_Fitzy · 9th Feb 2007, 04:17

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Originally Posted by Pricester

Please - edit the article... Maybe I'm wrong, but when I read the word Toner, I think Laser printers, and "toner ink" is a contradiction. In fact, I read the whole article assuming that this must have been a laser printer, since £10 for inkjet ink is nothing new to me - had to go back to the source article to correct my misconception

Edit: Took out my comment on the £:$ thing, since it's already been made as I was posting!

ditto, I thought ooh goody cheap laser printer too

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6th Feb 2007, 17:01	#4
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Malfoleo I -am- demotivation. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Posts: 3,512	Why is this news again? The brand-name ink for my canon is $10 for black and $15 for colour. Has been for the past year and a half. __________________ I play with fish all day. And take photos for your sick pleasure.

6th Feb 2007, 20:11	#10
Tyinsar 6 screens / 1 card Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: AB.CA Posts: 2,005	I print so little (and the air is so dry here) that my ink cartridges dry out when I've only used them a couple of times. The last time I even had an inkjet connected was a few years ago. What I'm really wanting is quality colour laser printers at a good price - until then I won't be interested in printers. __________________ It's not about how life treats you, it's about how you treat life.

6th Feb 2007, 20:20	#11
David_Fitzy Multimodder Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Kiwiland Posts: 197	I hate printers I use them so infrequently that every time I need to use mine I have to replace the heads as the ink has dried solid through the entire system. I want a cheap colour laser printer to be produced with cheap toner cartridges. __________________ Duel of the Duals! Athlon XP2400+ \| Generic FX5200 \| SOYO Platinum Dragon Ultra \| 1GB Crucial Ram \| Maxtor PATA 7200 HDDs: 2x40Gb (RAID0), 2x200Gb(RAID0) \| Jeantech Phong case \| Black DVD-everything \| Black Skythe Kama-meter \| dreaded blue LED fans (didn't read the description properly) At least it's all one colour scheme now

6th Feb 2007, 16:48	#2
TomH Bwahahahahaha Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Salford Posts: 610	Cheap! But who in their right mind would have one? Kodak don't do "quality". The only positive suggestion from this story, is that it could (and probably shall) spark a price war. Nothing beats a good Fuji lab (on quality OR price).

6th Feb 2007, 16:55	#3
Zut Multimodder Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Near Sheffield, UK Posts: 127	I'm really sorry but this kinda reads like an advert. Plus isn't TrustedReviews more the sort of place for printer stuff?

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7th Feb 2007, 05:07	#14
Stuey You will be defenestrated! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NYC & NJ Posts: 2,484	I'm happy with my Canon multifunction. A pigment black, and dye black, cyan, magenta, yellow for $14 each or 4 for $43. $10 off coupons for the office supply stores make it even sweeter. A price war? Doubtful. Maybe in the smaller 4x6 printer market, but I don't think those sell as well as multifunctions or photo printers these days. __________________ ToolGuyd

7th Feb 2007, 08:25	#15
Enforcer Multimodder Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Stroggos Posts: 87	I'm still trying to figure out how their going to get rid of all those chemicals sitting in my backyard?

7th Feb 2007, 13:04	#18
Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 4,475	I'm holding out for a networked color inkjet that does 19x19 and has good linux drivers. Done with small, cheap color printers. __________________ Notice: If we see you flaming we will assume you are on fire and take appropriate measures - The Bit-Tech Fire Brigade.