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Tim S · 9th Feb 2007, 15:25

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...us_Q80_/1.html

Mother-Goose · 9th Feb 2007, 15:33

Not impressed with that case in the slightest but that could be down to my tastes. I would have expected better performance for that much money.

Fozzy · 9th Feb 2007, 15:37

I can't actually find out how much it costs. But I know the graphics crads would be about $1600 with a $1000 processor and $400 in ram put inside a $300 case with a $600 watercooling system..... So damn I'm not sure i really do wanna know how much they charge

Bindibadgi · 9th Feb 2007, 15:39

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Originally Posted by Mother-Gooser

Not impressed with that case in the slightest but that could be down to my tastes. I would have expected better performance for that much money.

In 2D is pwns, but in 3D you're waiting on drivers if you select Vista to be preinstalled. Personally I think the Lian is a gorgeous case, although there are several options on the Vadim site to choose from.

Tim S · 9th Feb 2007, 15:40

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Originally Posted by Mother-Gooser

Not impressed with that case in the slightest but that could be down to my tastes. I would have expected better performance for that much money.

The let down in performance is down to the OS specified by the customer and, of course, Nvidia's Vista drivers. With Windows XP (and an optional upgrade to Vista when driver support matures), this thing goes like the stink.

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Originally Posted by Fozzy

I can't actually find out how much it costs. But I know the graphics crads would be about $1600 with a $1000 processor and $400 in ram put inside a $300 case with a $600 watercooling system..... So damn I'm not sure i really do wanna know how much they charge

It's around £5,100 as far as I'm aware.

Mother-Goose · 9th Feb 2007, 15:50

AHA I knew I'd missed something because I just couldn't see why it was under performing. As for the looks, you hit on the head there bindi, it really is a personaly thing.

Very much looking forward to stable and efficient vista drivers from NVIDIA. Of course, ATi are gonna get it right first time

teamtd11 · 9th Feb 2007, 16:27

Thats how i want the insides of my Lian Li v2000 to look like

Thanks for the amazing review

Hazardous · 9th Feb 2007, 16:30

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Originally Posted by Fozzy

I can't actually find out how much it costs...

... damn I'm not sure i really do wanna know how much they charge

Tut tut Fozzy! You obviously never read right to the end of the review/article...

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Originally Posted by Bit-Tech

Final Thoughts:

For £5,000...

Mankz · 9th Feb 2007, 16:47

If someone were to give me £5,000 i'm sure i could do better.

(or do the same for far less)

Darkedge · 9th Feb 2007, 16:53

for £5000 i'd like something a bit neater than glue from a glue gun around the side window and grill. That looks cheap and nasty as hell. Yes it's inside but still poor considering the cost.

dragontail · 9th Feb 2007, 17:11

I'm not sure that's value for money, last time I checked, Vadim charges a huge premium for customising and overclocking... personally I rather build a PC myself.

Nath · 9th Feb 2007, 17:15

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Originally Posted by Mankz_91

If someone were to give me £5,000 i'm sure i could do better.

(or do the same for far less)

People say this every. damn. time. If you buy a prebuilt PC, you're buying it for the support and lack of hassle. OK you might be able to build one cheaper, I'm sure most people could, but you're completely on your own when it comes to stuff breaking.

Meanmotion · 9th Feb 2007, 17:15

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Originally Posted by Mankz_91

If someone were to give me £5,000 i'm sure i could do better.

(or do the same for far less)

It's just not comparable to the sort of thing we do. This is something you order and can have arrive at your doorstep in a couple of weeks.

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Originally Posted by Darkedge

for £5000 i'd like something a bit neater than glue from a glue gun around the side window and grill. That looks cheap and nasty as hell. Yes it's inside but still poor considering the cost.

Fair point but once you see the thing in the flesh you won't give it a second thought - it truely is awe inspiring. Anyway, who hasn't used a blob of glue gun glue to tuck a little circuit board, or some such thing, into a hidden corner of their mod.

Techno-Dann · 9th Feb 2007, 17:32

That's a very impressive system. I'd say it's well worth the extra expense.

One quick note: The Lian-li V-series cases are not BTX. BTX is a totally different form factor, not just ATX upside-down.

And, hot glue is your friend. It's perfect for sticking headers and plugs to the motherboard, if you've got a system that gets moved around a lot.

ralph.pickering · 9th Feb 2007, 18:22

I used to work at the same company as Vadim (around 8 years ago I guess) and I remember him going off to make his own computers. Gotta give him credit; the man done good.

I'm not a fan of the hot glue work either, but I'm not sure there's a cost effective alternative for machines that get put together in a couple of weeks. Suggestions on a postcard...

randosome · 9th Feb 2007, 18:32

wow they only charge £1k premium for that system, IMO thats pretty impressive, for the lack of hassle, all the work that goes into organising it and such, damn good deal IMO

I dont like the styling either, but i assume they have choices or somthing

BTW did somone send u their PC for review ? like to get a discount or somthing ? and who was it

(if u know)

Almightyrastus · 9th Feb 2007, 19:03

Would have been interesting to see what this could have done while running XP

zr_ox · 9th Feb 2007, 20:24

If I was mad enough to spend that kind of money on a pre-built PC I would make my way over to Voodoo PC's. For the same money I can get a better case, cleaner interior, equal or better performance and the same personal service for £1000+ less, but that again is a matter of taste as Bindi said.

The hot glue, and horrible wiring of the front led instantly make me sick when you need to drop £5000 for this.

The kind of person buying this will probably have never put together a water cooled PC, otherwise they would know how much cheaper you can do it for.

The tube routing is nice, however the thing is so jam packed that for someone not so familiar with water cooling it's going to be a nightmare changing a piece of hardware (although given the spec it may be some time before thats necessary). With the tubing looking like its been measured to the mm, I would hate to drain and refill the coolant when necessary due to the position and type of res they have used.

Its all a matter of personal taste but I cannot see how they can possibly justify the price tag. For that money you could probably personally build a killer Core 2 Duo (Promethia Cooled) and SLI setup cooled by EK or DD blocks.

Wolfwood · 9th Feb 2007, 20:45

I dont understand, 700 quids worth of watercooling, and the cpu temp hits 57c on boot?

sl1xx · 9th Feb 2007, 21:53

looks so nice must be loud as hell tho !

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Mother-Goose Tories ftw! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: England - Surrey Posts: 3,750	AHA I knew I'd missed something because I just couldn't see why it was under performing. As for the looks, you hit on the head there bindi, it really is a personaly thing. Very much looking forward to stable and efficient vista drivers from NVIDIA. Of course, ATi are gonna get it right first time __________________ Goose Q6600, Striker Extreme, 4GB 6400C4 Dominator DHX, Raptor X, 2x400GB spinpoints, BFG 8800GTX OC, Stacker 830 Evo, HX620, Nova T 500, Freezer 7 Pro

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Darkedge Supermodder Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: UK Posts: 334	for £5000 i'd like something a bit neater than glue from a glue gun around the side window and grill. That looks cheap and nasty as hell. Yes it's inside but still poor considering the cost.

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Techno-Dann Disgruntled kumquat Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Pullman WA, USA Posts: 1,572	That's a very impressive system. I'd say it's well worth the extra expense. One quick note: The Lian-li V-series cases are not BTX. BTX is a totally different form factor, not just ATX upside-down. And, hot glue is your friend. It's perfect for sticking headers and plugs to the motherboard, if you've got a system that gets moved around a lot. __________________ The intellitxt demon fell dead, Sir Tim's lance embedded in its heart. The fair land of Bit-Tech was free from its influence once more. And there was much rejoicing.

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ralph.pickering Supermodder Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London Posts: 321	I used to work at the same company as Vadim (around 8 years ago I guess) and I remember him going off to make his own computers. Gotta give him credit; the man done good. I'm not a fan of the hot glue work either, but I'm not sure there's a cost effective alternative for machines that get put together in a couple of weeks. Suggestions on a postcard... Last edited by ralph.pickering; 9th Feb 2007 at 18:26. Reason: reducing the but count

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randosome Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 226	wow they only charge £1k premium for that system, IMO thats pretty impressive, for the lack of hassle, all the work that goes into organising it and such, damn good deal IMO I dont like the styling either, but i assume they have choices or somthing BTW did somone send u their PC for review ? like to get a discount or somthing ? and who was it (if u know)

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9th Feb 2007, 20:24	#18
zr_ox Whooolapoook Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Stalking Orco Posts: 1,117	If I was mad enough to spend that kind of money on a pre-built PC I would make my way over to Voodoo PC's. For the same money I can get a better case, cleaner interior, equal or better performance and the same personal service for £1000+ less, but that again is a matter of taste as Bindi said. The hot glue, and horrible wiring of the front led instantly make me sick when you need to drop £5000 for this. The kind of person buying this will probably have never put together a water cooled PC, otherwise they would know how much cheaper you can do it for. The tube routing is nice, however the thing is so jam packed that for someone not so familiar with water cooling it's going to be a nightmare changing a piece of hardware (although given the spec it may be some time before thats necessary). With the tubing looking like its been measured to the mm, I would hate to drain and refill the coolant when necessary due to the position and type of res they have used. Its all a matter of personal taste but I cannot see how they can possibly justify the price tag. For that money you could probably personally build a killer Core 2 Duo (Promethia Cooled) and SLI setup cooled by EK or DD blocks. __________________ 0ptimizm :PC under review

9th Feb 2007, 20:45	#19
Wolfwood What's a Dremel? Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 7	I dont understand, 700 quids worth of watercooling, and the cpu temp hits 57c on boot?

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