European PS3 has less functionality than US, Japan - bit-tech.net Forums

WilHarris · 23rd Feb 2007, 10:22

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/02...than_us_japan/

DougEdey · 23rd Feb 2007, 10:26

I would swear but you asked us not to...

BTW: We're not paying 40% more, they are paying 40% less then us. We are paying upto 88% more.

antiHero · 23rd Feb 2007, 10:27

Great!!! That is going to be the last nail for the coffin. 40% higher price + less functionality = i dont pay for sure(and many others too)
The europian PS3 launch is going to be the biggest flop in Console history

olly_lewis · 23rd Feb 2007, 10:29

Oh this is great... I just pre-ordered one of these things... and to think, I was going to chuck my PS2, I'm pi**ed to say the least...

Freedom · 23rd Feb 2007, 10:32

Guess who not going to buying a European PS3 if any model. you can get the jap version that should work here ?? iam sure some will hack them soon enough if not.

M3G4 · 23rd Feb 2007, 10:32

Everyone knows that the PS3 will sell like hotcakes regardless - the playstation as a brand has a lot of clout, and people seem to trust sony no matter what.

in all fairness, i'd love to see it flop because sony are playing a very nasty, prejudiced game.

AcidJiles · 23rd Feb 2007, 10:44

And people claim mircosoft is bad im sorry for gaming sony is the worst company by far at the moment and I hope the ps3 fails miserably.

to_fast1 · 23rd Feb 2007, 10:47

Well i was going to get one to replace my old PS2 which is starting to mess up a bit. But it looks like i will be buying a new PS2 for £50 or whatever it costs now and screw the PS3, i have 45 PS2 games & 60 PS1 games and was hoping to get a new console that would let me play them and some new games. I already have an XBOX 360 and will stick with it until the PS3 gets backwards compatible or it gets cheaper and there are some more great exclusives, but until then no chance whatsoever.

whisperwolf · 23rd Feb 2007, 10:48

So their switching to software to reduce the cost, reducing the functionality, but also selling at a higher price. Well its an interesting marketing stratergy to use in the biggest selling area.
Perhaps I should take out shares in travel companies offering hols to Japan

mclean007 · 23rd Feb 2007, 10:48

In principle, this is absolutely appalling. I'm pretty disgusted at the price differential to begin with (and won't be buying an EU retail unit on that basis alone), but to offer a cut down unit for a lot more money is utterly scandalous.

In practice, I guess it makes sense - most PS3 buyers who care about backwards compatibility will have a PS2 anyway (otherwise they're unlikely to have a big catalogue of games), and PS2 resale values aren't going to be such that you'll be losing out massively by not being able to sell it on, so I guess you'll still be able to play the incompatible games on your PS2.

That said, for people who have no PS2 but want a PS3, it would be nice to be able to get in on the action in terms of some old school PS2 games, with guaranteed 100% compatibility. And to reduce the clutter under your TV with one unit capable of playing old and new games alike.

Ah well, Sony, this really is a huge mistake. As M3G4 says, this is a nasty game you're playing, and it will seriously affect UK sales. I really hope the PS3 EU launch flops, to send a warning to manufacturers that they can't continue to exploit the EU as some kind of cash cow.

_DTM2000_ · 23rd Feb 2007, 10:51

What a complete and utter joke. There really needs to be some kind of high profile news report on the TV about this. All us techies know what a joke the PS3 has turned into but I fear the regular Joe will get caught up in the hype. Sony really don't deserve the PS3 to sell well, they've cocked up every bit of it but they'll still sell loads if the public believe all the marketing spin.

Lazarus Dark · 23rd Feb 2007, 10:57

I'm in us and dont care about ps3 or sony and have sworn off sony since the rootkit bull. But somehow this still feels like a slap in the face. Maybe I just feel the disrespect as a fellow gamer. You guys over there are getting screwed. Dont give them money and bend over.
*yeah sony, heres your thousand bucks, go ahead and give me that low-end bluray player real deep.thanks*

Fod · 23rd Feb 2007, 11:00

time to import! the PS3 games are region free

sk8ter646 · 23rd Feb 2007, 11:09

i really hope it all goes tits up for sony they really dont know how to look after ther current customers and they are praying the little kids wanting mommy and daddy to buy them one an that is it

Mother-Goose · 23rd Feb 2007, 11:15

I agree it is appaulling but for joe public, they will be ignorant to the point that they wont know any of this.

Blackcrown · 23rd Feb 2007, 11:16

Seems like a smart move...

bahgger · 23rd Feb 2007, 11:19

What is Sony trying with us? If anything I'd boycott their PS3 for the next few years

r4tch3t · 23rd Feb 2007, 11:24

This is total bull**** I don't see how they can do this, its disgusting. I am a Sony fan (purely because of FF), and will still get a PS3 when the price comes down to an acceptable level.
And here I thought that Sony wouldn't release anymore "look we are screwing everyone out of their money" press releases or anything.
I think Sony needs new people in the high places, obviously all the money they have been investing in thew PS3 hasn't all gone on the PS3, but into another market, one of a unscrupulous nature. What else could have made them make this many mistakes?

atanum141 · 23rd Feb 2007, 11:26

Went into Game the other day, they were doing preorders for £430......

Djpuk · 23rd Feb 2007, 11:32

I would say I am slightly a Sony fanboy and would probably have bought (when the price comes down as seems to be the accepted logic) anyway but sod them now, Xbox 360 here I come, who needs blueray anyway HD DVD will have to do.
Having seen the consoles side by side at Game On I thought there was very little difference anyway, backward compatibility would have been the key reason for purchase, now that has been taken away for us lowly europeans (or reduced somehow) then it looks like uncle Bill will be getting my cash.

23rd Feb 2007, 10:22	#1
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23rd Feb 2007, 10:26	#2
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23rd Feb 2007, 10:27	#3
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23rd Feb 2007, 10:29	#4
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23rd Feb 2007, 10:32	#5
Freedom Hypermodder Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Manchester England Posts: 603	Guess who not going to buying a European PS3 if any model. you can get the jap version that should work here ?? iam sure some will hack them soon enough if not.

23rd Feb 2007, 10:44	#7
AcidJiles Multimodder Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 152	And people claim mircosoft is bad im sorry for gaming sony is the worst company by far at the moment and I hope the ps3 fails miserably.

23rd Feb 2007, 10:47	#8
to_fast1 Minimodder Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Biggleswade, Beds Posts: 22	Well i was going to get one to replace my old PS2 which is starting to mess up a bit. But it looks like i will be buying a new PS2 for £50 or whatever it costs now and screw the PS3, i have 45 PS2 games & 60 PS1 games and was hoping to get a new console that would let me play them and some new games. I already have an XBOX 360 and will stick with it until the PS3 gets backwards compatible or it gets cheaper and there are some more great exclusives, but until then no chance whatsoever. __________________ Clear Perpsex Case With 2 Akasa Amber Series Fans, Hiper Type-R PSU, Watercooled Athlon 64 3500+, 1Gb Corsair 3200XL Pro Ram @ 2.2.2.5 Timings, 74GB WD Raptor HDD, 256Mb XFX Geforce 6800 GT, DFI Lanparty nF4 Ultra-D, Audigy 4 Pro, Pioneer DVR-109, Windows Xp X64, 17'' TFT, Gigaworks S-750 7.1 Surround Sound Upgraded! Athlon 64 4000+, 512Mb Gainward Geforce 7900GT

23rd Feb 2007, 10:48	#9
whisperwolf Ultramodder Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 1,194	So their switching to software to reduce the cost, reducing the functionality, but also selling at a higher price. Well its an interesting marketing stratergy to use in the biggest selling area. Perhaps I should take out shares in travel companies offering hols to Japan __________________ "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. " Voltaire. My Flickr

23rd Feb 2007, 10:48	#10
mclean007 Officious Bystander Join Date: May 2003 Location: Nodnol Posts: 1,595	In principle, this is absolutely appalling. I'm pretty disgusted at the price differential to begin with (and won't be buying an EU retail unit on that basis alone), but to offer a cut down unit for a lot more money is utterly scandalous. In practice, I guess it makes sense - most PS3 buyers who care about backwards compatibility will have a PS2 anyway (otherwise they're unlikely to have a big catalogue of games), and PS2 resale values aren't going to be such that you'll be losing out massively by not being able to sell it on, so I guess you'll still be able to play the incompatible games on your PS2. That said, for people who have no PS2 but want a PS3, it would be nice to be able to get in on the action in terms of some old school PS2 games, with guaranteed 100% compatibility. And to reduce the clutter under your TV with one unit capable of playing old and new games alike. Ah well, Sony, this really is a huge mistake. As M3G4 says, this is a nasty game you're playing, and it will seriously affect UK sales. I really hope the PS3 EU launch flops, to send a warning to manufacturers that they can't continue to exploit the EU as some kind of cash cow. __________________ Demand Naked DSL in the UK!

23rd Feb 2007, 10:51	#11
_DTM2000_ Senior Super Douche Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 229	What a complete and utter joke. There really needs to be some kind of high profile news report on the TV about this. All us techies know what a joke the PS3 has turned into but I fear the regular Joe will get caught up in the hype. Sony really don't deserve the PS3 to sell well, they've cocked up every bit of it but they'll still sell loads if the public believe all the marketing spin.

23rd Feb 2007, 10:57	#12
Lazarus Dark Supermodder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: US Memphis, TN Posts: 291	I'm in us and dont care about ps3 or sony and have sworn off sony since the rootkit bull. But somehow this still feels like a slap in the face. Maybe I just feel the disrespect as a fellow gamer. You guys over there are getting screwed. Dont give them money and bend over. yeah sony, heres your thousand bucks, go ahead and give me that low-end bluray player real deep.thanks __________________ My gun kata is greater than your kung fu.

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23rd Feb 2007, 11:19	#17
bahgger Supermodder Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 584	What is Sony trying with us? If anything I'd boycott their PS3 for the next few years

23rd Feb 2007, 11:24	#18
r4tch3t hmmmm.... Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,882	This is total bull**** I don't see how they can do this, its disgusting. I am a Sony fan (purely because of FF), and will still get a PS3 when the price comes down to an acceptable level. And here I thought that Sony wouldn't release anymore "look we are screwing everyone out of their money" press releases or anything. I think Sony needs new people in the high places, obviously all the money they have been investing in thew PS3 hasn't all gone on the PS3, but into another market, one of a unscrupulous nature. What else could have made them make this many mistakes? __________________ Fight my Brute The quantum limit of reality might be scaled up because we're all holograms. Obviously. Once more we see that sufficiently advanced physics is indistinguishable from getting really stoned. From here

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23rd Feb 2007, 11:32	#20
Djpuk Multimodder Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Near Ipswich Posts: 93	I would say I am slightly a Sony fanboy and would probably have bought (when the price comes down as seems to be the accepted logic) anyway but sod them now, Xbox 360 here I come, who needs blueray anyway HD DVD will have to do. Having seen the consoles side by side at Game On I thought there was very little difference anyway, backward compatibility would have been the key reason for purchase, now that has been taken away for us lowly europeans (or reduced somehow) then it looks like uncle Bill will be getting my cash. __________________ I wish I hadn't said that!