Vista brute force activation hack is a hoax? - bit-tech.net Forums

Tim S · 5th Mar 2007, 10:48

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/03...ack_is_a_hoax/

Flibblebot · 5th Mar 2007, 11:37

Missing square bracket around the "nothing more than a scam" link.

So are we to understand that Microsoft's activation servers have a record of every key that's been printed on a box? If so, surely it'll be impossible to crack, unless you manage to generate a key that hasn't been sold or installed yet.

mclean007 · 5th Mar 2007, 11:48

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Originally Posted by Flibblebot

Missing square bracket around the "nothing more than a scam" link.

So are we to understand that Microsoft's activation servers have a record of every key that's been printed on a box? If so, surely it'll be impossible to crack, unless you manage to generate a key that hasn't been sold or installed yet.

Or you use your cameraphone to swipe the key from a box on the shelf in PC World.

dire_wolf · 5th Mar 2007, 11:56

LOL, they printed the codes on the outside of the boxes? that's just asking for hassle

DriftCarl · 5th Mar 2007, 12:55

maybe a hoax but in reality its easier to crack. the new paradox crack works perfectly in about 2 minutes fully activated and I imagine, from reading the documentation that comes with it, microsoft is gonna have a hard time blocking it.

DarkLord7854 · 5th Mar 2007, 13:03

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Originally Posted by mclean007

Or you use your cameraphone to swipe the key from a box on the shelf in PC World.

All the stores I've been to here don't display the actual boxes, you either take a piece of paper, or a carbox label (which is ridiculously big) and you bring it to the cashier, and then they give it to you there.
That's a tad stupid to put the activation code on the outside.

Reminds me of going to Best Buy, opening the CSS box to "check if everything is there," copying the key, and leaving

randosome · 5th Mar 2007, 16:50

nicking keys off the shelves isnt new, people have been doing it for a long time

but printing the key on the outside of the box is just stupid

knowyourenemy · 5th Mar 2007, 17:31

Don't forget to mention the music. I love the new song on Paradox's app.

Buzzons · 5th Mar 2007, 22:03

keygens are nout new, as are activation work arounds (such as Activate by phone - which most apps use if pirated.)

the only down side for pirates is that MS can change how it activates its products at will - different types of hash etc, and seeing as it will be able to tell if the key has actually been sold etc.. then it can just make your copy drop to reduced functionality as soon as they produce a new way of activation checking.

mclean007 · 6th Mar 2007, 10:07

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Originally Posted by Buzzons

keygens are nout new, as are activation work arounds (such as Activate by phone - which most apps use if pirated.)

the only down side for pirates is that MS can change how it activates its products at will - different types of hash etc, and seeing as it will be able to tell if the key has actually been sold etc.. then it can just make your copy drop to reduced functionality as soon as they produce a new way of activation checking.

What if, however, someone has also legitimately bought that copy and installed it using their key - all MS can know is that the copy with that key has been sold but is being used in two places. How can they then determine which of the two to drop to reduced functionality? One thing MS will have to avoid at ALL costs is any risk whatsoever of invalidating a legitimate copy or telling Jimmy, who has bought his copy at PC World, that he "may be using counterfeit software".

shanky887614 · 1st Oct 2009, 12:39

they will never beat the hackers it is inevitable i was looking at qj.net last night and they have created a program to take all the encryption of psp games which means that as soon as they manage to get cfw or use a bug in the firmware to install custom firmware you can get nearly any game

because it just unencrypts the data then replaces it then you can play it
and this was a long time coming because since firmware 1.50 we use the same way to extract the firmware on the psp for xample you can use a hex editer then add the jeys to your program and keep doing it and it will work forever becasue we know where all the keys are in it without new firmware becasue the keys to open an encrypted are in the firmware in the ipl which is flashed to the psp on update

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DriftCarl Multimodder Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 198	maybe a hoax but in reality its easier to crack. the new paradox crack works perfectly in about 2 minutes fully activated and I imagine, from reading the documentation that comes with it, microsoft is gonna have a hard time blocking it.

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randosome Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 226	nicking keys off the shelves isnt new, people have been doing it for a long time but printing the key on the outside of the box is just stupid

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Buzzons Mod Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,086	keygens are nout new, as are activation work arounds (such as Activate by phone - which most apps use if pirated.) the only down side for pirates is that MS can change how it activates its products at will - different types of hash etc, and seeing as it will be able to tell if the key has actually been sold etc.. then it can just make your copy drop to reduced functionality as soon as they produce a new way of activation checking.

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shanky887614 Minimodder Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 33	they will never beat the hackers it is inevitable i was looking at qj.net last night and they have created a program to take all the encryption of psp games which means that as soon as they manage to get cfw or use a bug in the firmware to install custom firmware you can get nearly any game because it just unencrypts the data then replaces it then you can play it and this was a long time coming because since firmware 1.50 we use the same way to extract the firmware on the psp for xample you can use a hex editer then add the jeys to your program and keep doing it and it will work forever becasue we know where all the keys are in it without new firmware becasue the keys to open an encrypted are in the firmware in the ipl which is flashed to the psp on update