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Tim S · 9th Mar 2007, 12:01

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...a_Claro/1.html

David_Fitzy · 9th Mar 2007, 12:12

It's still PCI, when is this standard gonna die?

Bindibadgi · 9th Mar 2007, 12:34

Not for a long time yet.

BlueDemon · 9th Mar 2007, 13:09

The article could do with some proof-reading and editing. It's not up to the usual b-t standards...

Nature · 9th Mar 2007, 13:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by David_Fitzy

It's still PCI, when is this standard gonna die?

I agree. Pci is far too ugly and bulky. It will be embarrassing to look back at them from the future. 5 white slots all the **** around my graphics cards in a different illogical positions for every different board that's made. It be cool if everything was just SATA interface and you could stuff it racks.

Same embarassing thing about PCI-e and the peices of metal lard that occupy them.

Tim S · 9th Mar 2007, 14:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDemon

The article could do with some proof-reading and editing. It's not up to the usual b-t standards...

Sorry, I must apologise; that's my fault. A combination of a bad night's sleep and a splitting headache meant that I obviously wasn't as alert as I should have been this morning when I read it though.

I have been through the article again and I should have made the necessary changes. If there's anything else you spot, please PM/email me.

Thanks.

naokaji · 9th Mar 2007, 15:44

what's about vista drivers?

creative is certainly lacking in that area and it would be a good chance for the competitor's to sell their soundcard's if they would deliver working vista drivers form day one on.....

other than that.... i'm more than happy creative is finally getting some competition.... hopefully the x-fi lineup gets its prices pushed down....

Jipa · 9th Mar 2007, 16:09

Well even it's too expensive and doesn't have anything new, it's still a Non-X-Fi-Fatality-WTF-EAX-sound card. It would be cool to see some real results (you know, measurements'n'stuff) with some cards from M.audio (or other music makers' cards manufacturer), this and Creative. I'm extremely sceptical about real differencies in sound cards. Yeah the cheapest integrated solutions sound like crap and have all kinds of unwanted noises, but lets say price range from 50 to 150 bucks or so. What are you paying for?

I think if you want to really leap in the quality/features, you must go for external cards.

Bindibadgi · 9th Mar 2007, 16:42

Vista drivers are on the HT Omega site, but it's only 32bit currently.

The difference between onboard and discrete sound card is incredible if you actually sit and listen. $50-$150 buys quality. It's not as blatantly obvious as looking at something, that's true, that's why I've tried to describe my experiences rather than just throw numbers at people.

For $100 I'd definitely buy a Sodingo Inferno, and I'd possibly buy the Claro if I was after the extra features. I don't spend most of my time gaming, the X-Fi isn't all that special to me, but if you are a gamer then there's no competition. But you need to balance it off with a decent set of headphones and/or surround speakers.

What external cards provide a leap in quality? I need links!

Cthippo · 9th Mar 2007, 16:56

and I need linux drivers

DarkLord7854 · 9th Mar 2007, 17:12

I'd like to see comparisons on CPU usage... since a sound card is supposed to remove the duty of sound processing off the CPU..

Bindibadgi · 9th Mar 2007, 17:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cthippo

and I need linux drivers

http://www.cmedia.com/forums/

http://www.alsa-project.org/

Links from Cmedia website.

As for CPU numbers, check the Sodingo review because the hardware is identical. Real world performance costs are so infinitesimally minute that you'd never notice, and for the improvements in audio quality it's neither here nor there. There are only canned benchmarks we can run to give you an exact figure, or we could run a game but then you're always always better off with an X-Fi when gaming anyway.

DarkLord7854 · 9th Mar 2007, 17:16

Ahh.. But see, I can't afford an X-Fi

I have a 30$ SoundBlaster Live!

Altron · 9th Mar 2007, 17:40

Eh, what were you talking about, "solid state capacitors"?

I always thought solid state referred to silicon or germanium transistors (as opposed to vacuum tubes) and had nothing to do with capacitors.

Bindibadgi · 9th Mar 2007, 17:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkLord7854

Ahh.. But see, I can't afford an X-Fi

I have a 30$ SoundBlaster Live!

And an EVGA 680i motherboard, 7900GS and OCZ memory :P

Altron: There are electrolytic capacitors which contain a moist layering of electrolytes to hold a charge. The solid state variety (as in, not wet) doesn't dry out so they last long, and they also provide a more even and faster power delivery, but they also cost more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolytic_capacitor

I cant find info on the Solid State variety, but that's the term being peddled around the industry. It might be different in others, I can only go on what I've been told.

Jipa · 9th Mar 2007, 18:23

Bindibadqi: TBH I didn't think anyone catches that one

The point there is that in terms of EMI/all sorts of RF/electrical noise a computer case is maybe the worst place in the house. And the features, with the features I ment XLR/midi-in and outs, sturdy 6,3 mm connectors and such. Not any fancypancy effects.

Maybe a leap is a slight over-expression, but there's atleast some sort of difference.

Gundam God · 9th Mar 2007, 19:07

This card sounds very tempting but i'll be sticking with my Audigy until I see a decent card with HDMI either alongside or replacing s/pdif.

I want to send my future AVR some yummy dolby truehd and dts hd master from hddvd/blu-ray!

Woodstock · 9th Mar 2007, 20:08

so this or the Sodingo Inferno would be well suited to a HTPC. And i agree bring out some damm pci-e sound cards

DarkLord7854 · 9th Mar 2007, 20:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bindibadgi

And an EVGA 680i motherboard, 7900GS and OCZ memory :P

The GS was 100$, the RAM was free. The mobo was 80$ off because I got 4 bad mobos from Newegg in a row (they had all been about 80 to 120$).
Otherwise I wouldn't be able to afford my current components

It'd be nice to have a use for those pci-e x1 slots

adidas · 9th Mar 2007, 23:12

Hi, I'm interested in something like this. My problem (if you can call it that) is that I have a pair of HD650s cans currently unable to be driven properly by my build-in AC97.

Would this card act as an amp? And would it eliminate (or reduce) interference noise?

Looking forward to your replies!

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9th Mar 2007, 16:09	#8
Jipa Licenced idiot. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tampere, Finland Posts: 3,058	Well even it's too expensive and doesn't have anything new, it's still a Non-X-Fi-Fatality-WTF-EAX-sound card. It would be cool to see some real results (you know, measurements'n'stuff) with some cards from M.audio (or other music makers' cards manufacturer), this and Creative. I'm extremely sceptical about real differencies in sound cards. Yeah the cheapest integrated solutions sound like crap and have all kinds of unwanted noises, but lets say price range from 50 to 150 bucks or so. What are you paying for? I think if you want to really leap in the quality/features, you must go for external cards. __________________ Abit IP35 - E6750 - 8800GT 1024 MB - 2 GB 800 MHz - enough HDDs - 750 W Silverstone - CM Storm Sniper Asus P5Q-VM - Q9450 - 4 GB - 400 W Silverstone - Fortress FT01 AllTheMods - MetkuMods - LedCalc

9th Mar 2007, 15:44	#7
naokaji whatever Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 1,879	what's about vista drivers? creative is certainly lacking in that area and it would be a good chance for the competitor's to sell their soundcard's if they would deliver working vista drivers form day one on..... other than that.... i'm more than happy creative is finally getting some competition.... hopefully the x-fi lineup gets its prices pushed down....

9th Mar 2007, 16:42	#9
Bindibadgi Richard Swinburne bit-tech Staff Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Omnipwntent Posts: 28,228	Vista drivers are on the HT Omega site, but it's only 32bit currently. The difference between onboard and discrete sound card is incredible if you actually sit and listen. $50-$150 buys quality. It's not as blatantly obvious as looking at something, that's true, that's why I've tried to describe my experiences rather than just throw numbers at people. For $100 I'd definitely buy a Sodingo Inferno, and I'd possibly buy the Claro if I was after the extra features. I don't spend most of my time gaming, the X-Fi isn't all that special to me, but if you are a gamer then there's no competition. But you need to balance it off with a decent set of headphones and/or surround speakers. What external cards provide a leap in quality? I need links! __________________ Made you look, made you stare, made you clicked this in your underwear! Den of Geek!

9th Mar 2007, 16:56	#10
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DarkLord7854 Web Developer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: West Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 3,825	Ahh.. But see, I can't afford an X-Fi I have a 30$ SoundBlaster Live! __________________ Current Computer: eVGA 780i Motherboard \| Q6600 Core2Quad \| eVGA GTX260 896Mbs 216-core \| 2x Seagate 500Gbs \| 8Gbs OCZ Platinum DDR2 800 \| Creative XtremeGamer X-Fi \| Thermaltake Armor Case Custom WordPress, ZenCart, Joomla, vBulletin, etc installs and skinning, PM/E-Mail for a quote

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Altron Over 9000? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: an island on the Hudson Posts: 2,640	Eh, what were you talking about, "solid state capacitors"? I always thought solid state referred to silicon or germanium transistors (as opposed to vacuum tubes) and had nothing to do with capacitors. __________________ If this post is not up to your standards, please lower your standards. e^i(pi)+1=0

9th Mar 2007, 18:23	#16
Jipa Licenced idiot. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tampere, Finland Posts: 3,058	Bindibadqi: TBH I didn't think anyone catches that one The point there is that in terms of EMI/all sorts of RF/electrical noise a computer case is maybe the worst place in the house. And the features, with the features I ment XLR/midi-in and outs, sturdy 6,3 mm connectors and such. Not any fancypancy effects. Maybe a leap is a slight over-expression, but there's atleast some sort of difference. __________________ Abit IP35 - E6750 - 8800GT 1024 MB - 2 GB 800 MHz - enough HDDs - 750 W Silverstone - CM Storm Sniper Asus P5Q-VM - Q9450 - 4 GB - 400 W Silverstone - Fortress FT01 AllTheMods - MetkuMods - LedCalc

9th Mar 2007, 19:07	#17
Gundam God What's a Dremel? Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: UK Posts: 8	This card sounds very tempting but i'll be sticking with my Audigy until I see a decent card with HDMI either alongside or replacing s/pdif. I want to send my future AVR some yummy dolby truehd and dts hd master from hddvd/blu-ray!

9th Mar 2007, 20:08	#18
Woodstock So Say We All Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,657	so this or the Sodingo Inferno would be well suited to a HTPC. And i agree bring out some damm pci-e sound cards __________________ Hell hath no fury like a hippo with a machine gun.

9th Mar 2007, 23:12	#20
adidas Multimodder Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Richmond, Surrey Posts: 72	Hi, I'm interested in something like this. My problem (if you can call it that) is that I have a pair of HD650s cans currently unable to be driven properly by my build-in AC97. Would this card act as an amp? And would it eliminate (or reduce) interference noise? Looking forward to your replies!