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Tim S · 3rd Apr 2007, 10:06

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/04...being_altered/

BioSniper · 3rd Apr 2007, 10:11

Shame the PS3 is upgradeable to comply by firmware, It would have fuelled the anti Sony/Blu-Ray fire more than it already is

mclean007 · 3rd Apr 2007, 10:13

Hopefully won't cause problems for too many people - I guess most (if not all) Blu-Ray players on the market are firmware upgradeable, not that adoption has been huge as yet anyway.

PS3 is surely in many more homes than all other BR players put together, and as you say, it shouldn't have a problem with BR Java.

However, there's always a risk with early adoption - together with inflated costs, it's the price of having the latest tech before anyone else.

Neogumbercules · 3rd Apr 2007, 10:24

That just further proves that buying new technology like that right away is always a bad idea.

sinizterguy · 3rd Apr 2007, 10:44

Blu-Ray group never cared for its customers. Just wants more money.

Woodstock · 3rd Apr 2007, 10:56

well for what its worth i dont think too many people will be affected, people are alot more weary after betamax vs VHS

David_Fitzy · 3rd Apr 2007, 11:14

doesn't bother me when I do get a hidef DVD it will be HDDVD well at leas until they bring out HHDDVVDDBVD

Djpuk · 3rd Apr 2007, 11:32

Early adopters stung again, just as well these people usually have bags of money hey!

Pricester · 3rd Apr 2007, 12:18

Bang - and HD wins, since no-one will risk buying Blu-Ray if it's going to change...

BioSniper · 3rd Apr 2007, 13:18

That HHDDVVDDBVD I would buy on a T-shirt tbh.
How I love RvB

Swafeman · 3rd Apr 2007, 13:24

didnt blu ray come out about 3-4 years ago anyway? Im sure they made a gen 1 ages ago, i remember seing players for about 5 grand but nobody seemed interested at the time, i doubt these players are still supported either

Firehed · 3rd Apr 2007, 17:04

Does anyone actually use those features that they're set up upgrade anyways? Of all of the DVDs I've rented or own (having worked at a video store, that's quite a lot), I've looked at bonus features twice - once because it was really late and I couldn't sleep and had nothing else to do, and the other time just to play around. As far as I'm concerned, they'd be a lot better off just dumping the highest quality possible transfer on the disc with nothing more than a chapter index, save some production costs, charge us less, and sell more. But that would be too easy.

Bluephoenix · 3rd Apr 2007, 17:28

Java? please no.... just no. I already have enough trouble with it eating my RAM, now my future high-def players will need 4GB?

fev · 3rd Apr 2007, 18:26

buying blu-ray is sponsoring terrorism... so don't do it!

sui_winbolo · 3rd Apr 2007, 19:02

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Originally Posted by fev

buying blu-ray is sponsoring terrorism... so don't do it!

Rgr that!

Aankhen · 3rd Apr 2007, 23:21

That's strange. BD-J was supposed to have been supported by players since the beginning, and according to Wikipedia, a fair number do already… are they moving away from BD-J or something?

Ah, perhaps this bit from High-Def Digest could explain it somewhat:

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Currently, most Blu-ray players on the market can handle some form of BD-J interactivity on software titles, but not true video picture-in-picture playback. Sony's complete Blu-ray player line (including the PlayStation 3), plus decks from Philips, Pioneer and LG Electronics, have so far been unable to support the PIP function.

sinizterguy · 3rd Apr 2007, 23:59

Yep BD-J was supposed to have been supported, but it came out half baked.

Tetsugaku-San · 4th Apr 2007, 10:12

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Originally Posted by sinizterguy

Blu-Ray group never cared for its customers. Just wants more money.

Yes.

Because the HDDVD group is a charity that spends all profits on feeding Africa.....

Get a grip mate.

sinizterguy · 4th Apr 2007, 10:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tetsugaku-San

Yes.

Because the HDDVD group is a charity that spends all profits on feeding Africa.....

Get a grip mate.

Take it in context.

As for the HDDVD group - All their products work and have been decent. Their discs are region free and have no compatibility problems with current players. Early adopters of the format have not been shafted.

Idiotic replies like the above quoted one are not conductive to a good discussion.

nry · 4th Apr 2007, 12:49

Think i will wait for the whole thing to settle down and for one side to win. And for a cheap drive to appear for the PC

Alot easier playing movies through my pc than through an external player

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Bluephoenix Spoon? What spoon? Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Daytona Beach, FL Posts: 936	Java? please no.... just no. I already have enough trouble with it eating my RAM, now my future high-def players will need 4GB?

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4th Apr 2007, 12:49	#20
nry Supermodder Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 255	Think i will wait for the whole thing to settle down and for one side to win. And for a cheap drive to appear for the PC Alot easier playing movies through my pc than through an external player