Pressure for investigation into Wi-Fi health risks - bit-tech.net Forums

Tim S · 23rd Apr 2007, 17:35

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/04..._health_risks/

BioSniper · 23rd Apr 2007, 17:42

I'm guessing this will be the same as all mobile phone investigations, it will yield little in the way of (useful) results.

sinizterguy · 23rd Apr 2007, 18:05

Its going to be completely pointless. Are people going to go over and make their neighbours stop using wifi to prevent them becoming ill ?

If anyone asks me to stop I will point them in the direction of the tin-foil hat which has the added benefit of stopping mind control rays.

Echo · 23rd Apr 2007, 18:14

Is there actually proof to show that wi-fi may possibly be damaging to health, even if it is slight?

Tyinsar · 23rd Apr 2007, 18:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by BioSniper

I'm guessing this will be the same as all mobile phone investigations, it will yield little in the way of (useful) results.

That's about what I expect also.

Personally I have avoided going wireless (with the exception of my lightly used cell phone) - all this extra radiation may or may not be harmful but it can't hurt to avoid any unneeded exposure. Besides that, wired connections are both more secure and easier to troubleshoot.

lamboman · 23rd Apr 2007, 18:32

This is stupid. I haven't got any problems with health, and I use Wi-Fi. I don't think they will find anything worth worrying about.

casey_cole · 23rd Apr 2007, 18:42

What a pile of BS... There's more harmful radiation coming out a blinkin' brick wall than a wireless router, cell phone, mobile mast or even *shock!* a TV.

Ridiculous health scare instigated primarily by people who just don't understand.

CC

leexgx · 23rd Apr 2007, 18:59

wifi power to low

Mobile power out put has an range of 2KM whare as wifi at best 20-30m indoors 50m out doors
bluethooth has range of about 10m

thay all run on 2.4ghz band more or less

Spaceraver · 23rd Apr 2007, 19:42

Glad i have my tinfoil beanie

Bluephoenix · 23rd Apr 2007, 19:49

the energy levels output by wireless routers are minimal. to damage cells it doesn't just take high frequency, it takes high amplitude (energy carried by waves).

I could sit in a room with something at 600GHz frequency, but if it had a small amplitude it would do nothing (the beta particles from the physical transmitter matter would be more harmful).

Cell towers are dangerous to stand close to because they have a high amplitude in order to carry the signal farther.

all-in-all, you're getting more radiation from a CRT than from any wi-fi network.

AcidJiles · 23rd Apr 2007, 20:25

i dont like wireless connections anyway, extra lag time for gaming, annoying when signal reduces for no reason and just so much slower.

ZERO <ibis> · 23rd Apr 2007, 20:32

Well noting that Wi-Fi uses electromagnetic waves in the radio section verses the other forums of electromagnetic waves including light, infrared, ultraviolet gamma and other forms of radiation. It should be expected that if Wi-Fi could be causing cancer(being at the low energy level of the spectrum) that the government should be looking into high energy causes that are also common in class room environments. These would include investigating heat as a health risk, light, and ultraviolet radiation.

Ultimatly if the health risks of Wi-Fi are so high that people should be kept away from it then they should also not be aloud to play out side and should only be exposed to light for a time no greater than 2 hours each day. Also no child should be aloud to get an x-ray because the amount of energy in x-ray waves is a multitude greater than years of Wi-Fi exposure. It should also be recommended that children ware led vests to protect them from cell phone towers, two way radios and the death rays also known as infrared tv(telly) remotes.

Is anyone else looking is the money and time going into this study and craziness and just...

ZERO <ibis> · 23rd Apr 2007, 20:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaceraver

Glad i have my tinfoil beanie

Quote:

Originally Posted by sinizterguy

Its going to be completely pointless. Are people going to go over and make their neighbours stop using wifi to prevent them becoming ill ?

If anyone asks me to stop I will point them in the direction of the tin-foil hat which has the added benefit of stopping mind control rays.

a study i once saw showed that a tinfoil beanie would actually help the government read your mind if they did in fact have such a device because the frequencies that are exclusively registered to the government are amplified by tinfoil by very large factor.

also tinfoil amplifies cellphones...

Redbeaver · 23rd Apr 2007, 20:42

ill leave mine at home then.....

HugoB · 23rd Apr 2007, 21:09

This is why I walk around in a lead-aluminium alloy chainmail full-body suit and helmet

Safe and it looks nifty

Aankhen · 23rd Apr 2007, 21:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Echo

Is there actually proof to show that wi-fi may possibly be damaging to health, even if it is slight?

Unless I'm mistaken, that's what this study is going to try and find out.

pendragon · 23rd Apr 2007, 21:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archangel

This is why I walk around in a lead-aluminium alloy chainmail full-body suit and helmet

Safe and it looks nifty

why not just upgrade to full-plate armor? It'll have the side-bonus of stopping all those pesky arrows!

Freemanator · 23rd Apr 2007, 21:29

The scare language also annoys me. I know it is radiation, but the average person associates radiation with nuclear radiation, and not just energy, which I am sure is responsible for a lot of the hysterics.

Bluephoenix · 23rd Apr 2007, 21:35

Even human beings give off radiation to a degree.

all matter gives off particles as it degenerates, and this degeneration is what heats the earth. (mostly thorium is responsible for this, given its concentrations and energy output over decay)

DougEdey · 23rd Apr 2007, 22:01

Wifi has a range of 100m max, mobiles have a range of a good few miles.

Which do we stick on our heads daily?

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casey_cole Multimodder Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gloucestershire, England Posts: 81	What a pile of BS... There's more harmful radiation coming out a blinkin' brick wall than a wireless router, cell phone, mobile mast or even shock! a TV. Ridiculous health scare instigated primarily by people who just don't understand. CC

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23rd Apr 2007, 19:49	#10
Bluephoenix Spoon? What spoon? Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Daytona Beach, FL Posts: 936	the energy levels output by wireless routers are minimal. to damage cells it doesn't just take high frequency, it takes high amplitude (energy carried by waves). I could sit in a room with something at 600GHz frequency, but if it had a small amplitude it would do nothing (the beta particles from the physical transmitter matter would be more harmful). Cell towers are dangerous to stand close to because they have a high amplitude in order to carry the signal farther. all-in-all, you're getting more radiation from a CRT than from any wi-fi network.

23rd Apr 2007, 20:25	#11
AcidJiles Multimodder Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 152	i dont like wireless connections anyway, extra lag time for gaming, annoying when signal reduces for no reason and just so much slower.

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ZERO <ibis> Supermodder Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 263	Well noting that Wi-Fi uses electromagnetic waves in the radio section verses the other forums of electromagnetic waves including light, infrared, ultraviolet gamma and other forms of radiation. It should be expected that if Wi-Fi could be causing cancer(being at the low energy level of the spectrum) that the government should be looking into high energy causes that are also common in class room environments. These would include investigating heat as a health risk, light, and ultraviolet radiation. Ultimatly if the health risks of Wi-Fi are so high that people should be kept away from it then they should also not be aloud to play out side and should only be exposed to light for a time no greater than 2 hours each day. Also no child should be aloud to get an x-ray because the amount of energy in x-ray waves is a multitude greater than years of Wi-Fi exposure. It should also be recommended that children ware led vests to protect them from cell phone towers, two way radios and the death rays also known as infrared tv(telly) remotes. Is anyone else looking is the money and time going into this study and craziness and just... __________________ 965 @ 4.26GHz-P6T DELUXE-GTX 280@750&1307-DDR3 Triple Channel@1001 MHz-RAID 0 Cheta 15.6k SAS-All Water cooled IBIS GAMING

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Freemanator Minimodder Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hampshire Posts: 30	The scare language also annoys me. I know it is radiation, but the average person associates radiation with nuclear radiation, and not just energy, which I am sure is responsible for a lot of the hysterics.

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Bluephoenix Spoon? What spoon? Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Daytona Beach, FL Posts: 936	Even human beings give off radiation to a degree. all matter gives off particles as it degenerates, and this degeneration is what heats the earth. (mostly thorium is responsible for this, given its concentrations and energy output over decay)

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